Toledo power hacksaw

[Robert01]

While fighting to keep a blade on a worn out band saw my Dad reminded me of his Toledo power hack saw. He bought it in the fifties from a machine shop. He used it in his shop on the farm until the farm was sold in '91. From there it went to a friend's granary. Not sure when the roof fell in on it but every part was seized up.

Thought about scrapping the thing but thought I'd better at least try to save it. By that afternoon every thing was freed up. Even the pump worked. Putting a new cord on the motor and a couple 6" steel wheels on it, a little paint and the old beast will be back to work.

What are you guys using for cutting oil?

Thanks

 

[WagonHo!]

Good man to save that mighty Holy Toledo.

 

[ng8264723]

I love power hacksaws! Thye so cool to watch

 

[mkat1951]

That thing is killer!! Glad you saved it.

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

I have somebody trying to sell me an old rig like that, don’t remember what brand. It’s old and heavy and maybe a lime green color, and it works...maybe I should give it another look. I assumed blades would be unavailable?!.


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[dutchgray]

You can still get blades for power hacksaws, plenty on eBay. If you're using them right blades last a while.

 

[wrenchguy]

what is the right blade for general steel cutting. i just got a marvel no.2.

 

[tool_scrounge]

Victor machinery also sells power hacksaw blades for pretty cheap

https://www.victornet.com/category/Power-Hacksaw-Blades/516.html

 

[thirdmouse]

I have an old Keller power hacksaw and was wondering where to get blades. Just today I tried a hardware store with no luck. Maybe I'll try Victor Machinery mentioned above. I'd like to get mine going.

I see yours has a second speed reduction shaft on it between the motor and the main pulley. I don't have that, but mine didn't come with a motor either. What kind of speed are these things supposed to run?

 

[PWC Repair]

I have been cutting and drilling metal using 2 stroke oil. If it needs to be thinner mix in some kerosene.

 

[DenisG]

I have an old Keller power hacksaw and was wondering where to get blades. Just today I tried a hardware store with no luck. Maybe I'll try Victor Machinery mentioned above. I'd like to get mine going.

I see yours has a second speed reduction shaft on it between the motor and the main pulley. I don't have that, but mine didn't come with a motor either. What kind of speed are these things supposed to run?

Here's vintagemachinery's page on Keller:
http://vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=2114&tab=3

I have a Model 1. It has a 1/3 hp motor, 1725 RPM with a 2-in OD sheave. They are suppose to operate at between 50-150 strokes per minute depending on the material being cut.

 

[Robert01]

I believe my Dad put the arbor on the back after he brought it home, he is big on changing rpm's on equipment. If he didn't add it then certainly modified. When I get back to the shop I can get a better picture of it back there.

I haven't done much research on new blades yet, mainly because I haven't needed them- have a stack of 20 used ones to work through first. The shop he bought the saw from ran the saw in WW2 to cut shaft 24-7. When the cuts were off by a few thousandths they would replace the blade with a new one. Anyway he got a stack of used blades when he bought the saw.

I saw a sign in Fastenal that said they were offering a sharpening service. I suppose that is an option. So don't throw your old blades away.

I like the Kerosene and oil idea, will use that.

 

[Stillgottimefor1]

I have an old Keller power hacksaw and was wondering where to get blades. Just today I tried a hardware store with no luck. Maybe I'll try Victor Machinery mentioned above. I'd like to get mine going.

Please post a picture of that, name rings a bell, maybe that’s what he is offering to sell...




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[Stillgottimefor1]

Never mind the photo, there’s one on Ebay.


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[dutchgray]

what is the right blade for general steel cutting. i just got a marvel no.2.

You want to abide by the 3 teeth in the cut rule or finer for the blade, which is probably why the finer blades cost more, you can get 4 tpi pretty cheap but they would only be any good on bar stock or wide flat sections.
I have some 14 tpi blades and a heap of 10 tpi, which seem pretty common, get HSS blades, most are but you do see NOS carbon steel blades.
Often you can get different depths and thickness blades in the same length, my saw is easy to adjust the auto return stop so it doesn't matter but some are more difficult. The basic saws which just run until you stop it the depth of the blade wont matter either.
Any name brand blade will probably be fine, most of them are from the same companies known for hand hacksaw blades.

 

[wrenchguy]

You want to abide by the 3 teeth in the cut rule or finer for the blade, which is probably why the finer blades cost more, you can get 4 tpi pretty cheap but they would only be any good on bar stock or wide flat sections.
I have some 14 tpi blades and a heap of 10 tpi, which seem pretty common, get HSS blades, most are but you do see NOS carbon steel blades.
Often you can get different depths and thickness blades in the same length, my saw is easy to adjust the auto return stop so it doesn't matter but some are more difficult. The basic saws which just run until you stop it the depth of the blade wont matter either.
Any name brand blade will probably be fine, most of them are from the same companies known for hand hacksaw blades.

thank you.

 

[Robert01]

Sorry I took so long to post these.

 

[motopreserve]

That's a gorgeous piece of history you have there - and well worth saving. Glad to see you are going to put it back into service. I bought an old Millers Falls saw quite a while back. I used it for a bit and then it sat since I more often turned to the horizontal bandsaw. It had been heavily modified by the metal shop that previously owned it (tons of brazing, shop-made over arm etc) - but it cut fairly well.

I finally got around to to doing a working-restoration of it. Just clean, paint, grease reassemble... I'll have to post up a new thread with the videos/pics.

Does yours have some type of mechanism to alter the downfeed speed? That is missing on mine, and I think that's the one part I'd like to fabricate. Te original design had a long round-bar that hung off the back with a large cylinder weight to adjust speed.

Scott

 

[Fretters]

Does yours have some type of mechanism to alter the downfeed speed? That is missing on mine, and I think that's the one part I'd like to fabricate. Te original design had a long round-bar that hung off the back with a large cylinder weight to adjust speed.

Are you planning on fabricating one to original design, or just wanting to add something? If the latter, the damper used on the English Rapidor saws was an excellent, simple design.

 

[Salvage Workshop]

I have 2 marvel draw cut saws, No1 & No2, as well as a SawMaster drawcut saw! I love using them even though they are slower than a bandsaw. They are just more fun! Nothing like the old stuff!

 

[lilredex]

You can also get power hack saw blades from Kitts.....but you cannot just walk in and get them, they are not in the store, mail order only. Was there this past Wednesday and was disappointed to have to order them, since it was a bit out of my way to go to the store.



https://www.kittstools.com/power_hacksaw_blades_h_._s_.html