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Too Many Tools for Toolbox - Thoughts on Organization?

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Fellas -

Put most of my tools in storage for 2.5 years while I was stationed in Korea, including my toolboxes - Craftsman Pro top and bottom box - 36" wide and 21" or so deep. About 6' tall.

While I was in Korea, I was still buying tools, of course. Now that I have my toolbox back, it's clear that I've outgrown it. However, I don't plan to get a larger box until I'm back in the states in a few years.

Until then, I need to fit everything in my box and in my garage.

Tools are used for working on the cars. Some basic carpentry mixed in.

I have a bit of a ratchet "problem" and a hammer "problem." I have about 40 ratchets, and maybe 20 hammers.

I also have a two drawer Craftsman cart; I normally use it for specific jobs, but I think I'll have to load it up, too.

Have a good bit of shelf space for overflow.

So, what would you put in the box first, and how?

1. Sockets and ratchets arranged by size - all 1/4 stuff, then 3/8, then 1/2, and 3/4.

2. Wrenches? Any ideas on wrench organization? Take up too much room right now just laying them flat.

3. Screwdrivers?

4. Pliers?

5. Hammers?

Figure all my automotive specialty tools (connecting rod vise, valve spring compressor, etc, etc, etc) will go on a shelf or in a cabinet. Air tools and electric tools on a shelf. Welding stuff on a shelf or in a cabinet. C-clamps - all on a shelf. Carpentry stuff on a shelf or in a cabinet.

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If you just need to hold tools that you use occasionally but not multiple times a day, check out the clear storage boxes at walmart. 7qt, 15qt, etc. One for ratchets, one for screwdrivers, etc.
 

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I have a similar problem, extra (duplicate triplicate and more) hand tools are stored on a shelf in 6 drawer plastic units made by/for Hillman.

These boxes generally are used for display in a hardware store, containing larger boxes of nuts and bolts. While not generally put out for retail sale, my local hardware store is happy to order them for me. While it's been a few years, i seem to remember they are modestly priced.
 

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Think I would be putting the less used stuff in storage boxes on the walls and getting another small box or cart for the overspill from the main box.
 

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get another box

Seriously I was in a similar situation... that bigger box was probably the best money I ever spent. Thought about spending money on organizers but doing that would probably have cost me half what my box would and I'd still be stuck with a undersized box.

Mechanics time saver has some good organizers

Also magrail TL's are a good choice for sockets but are $$$ though tooltopia has them for a reasonable price
 

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I'd be looking at picking up some Beta storage, or maybe Hazet or Facom.
 
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Let me clarify a bit -- what should be the first things to go into the toolbox? I'm thinking this priority:

1. Ratchets/torque wrenches and sockets, extensions, etc. That will take up a few drawers. May just put all my 3/8" stuff in the cart.

2. Wrenches - open/box/ratcheting. Another drawer or two down.

3. Pliers. Another drawer.

4. Screwdrivers. 1 drawer.

5. Files, punches, and chisels. 1 drawer.

6. Hammers. 1 deep drawer?

What am I missing here?

Thanks,

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Get rid of the Craftsman boxes.It's in storage for "a few more years". I wouldn't concern myself with what goes in what drawer :rolleyes:.
Buy a big used Job-box and cram all that **** in there.
You'll be so elated over the extra space you'll be able to "invest" in another 200 ratchets.... and hammers too !
 
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Get rid of the Craftsman boxes.It's in storage for "a few more years". I wouldn't concern myself with what goes in what drawer :rolleyes:.
Buy a big used Job-box and cram all that **** in there.
You'll be so elated over the extra space you'll be able to "invest" in another 200 ratchets.... and hammers too !

I would get rid of the Craftsman boxes in a heartbeat, but I live in Italy, and figure my next toolboxes are a pair of the big 'uns that HF is making these days. No HF within 6,000 miles of me, so I'll have to wait.

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If the box is in storage and not accessible organizing is pointless. Skip the organizers and just use it to store tools not being used and pull a basic set of tools out where you can get the. No need for all the ratchets or hammers, just keep out a couple that you need.

Tool collecting is fine, but remember your situation and think about what you actually need.
 

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I would pack up all the duplicates and unused stuff and ship it home to be stored.
 
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If the box is in storage and not accessible organizing is pointless. Skip the organizers and just use it to store tools not being used and pull a basic set of tools out where you can get the. No need for all the ratchets or hammers, just keep out a couple that you need.

Tool collecting is fine, but remember your situation and think about what you actually need.

Ok, I guess we're talking past each other. I do have my Craftsman toolbox, top and bottom. It WAS in storage for 2.5 years. I just got it back. Now I need to figure out how to use it now that I've outgrown it.

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craftsman pro? keep them and add some additional storage. i stupidly sold my first real storage setup. you may wish you still had it some day. if you bought them new, you will lose money on them.

if you are in italy, pick up some type of european storage cabinet. it may be your only chance to pick ups some sort of storage that is unique and hardly anyone else stateside has.

as others have said. organise things into groups as best you can. sort them again into things you need on a regular basis and things you don't. store the most used stuff in one cabinet for quick access and the less used in another. if you think about it, about 90% of what we need to do can be done with about 10% of our tools with little trouble. most jobs don't require a special puller, an obstruction wrench, the double swivel socket, the extra long pliers or the 11.375 inch long screwdriver. nice to have at times but not always necessary.
 
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Thanks for the input. I'll get started organizing and see what's leftover after the box is full.

Here is a pic of the box. Please ignore the mess; all my garage stuff arrived a few days ago and it will take a while for me to get organized.

 

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i repeat, do not sell that box. as close to a truck brand box from craftsman you will ever see. if that is your first real set up you would eventually regret it. maybe not in a month or year or even 5 or 10 years but eventually you will. especially if it travelled around the world with you, trust me. i am sure others will agree with me.

imagine someday passing that on to a son or grandson (daughter or granddaughter) while telling them the stories about you and your travels.
 
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i repeat, do not sell that box. as close to a truck brand box from craftsman you will ever see. if that is your first real set up you would eventually regret it. maybe not in a month or year or even 5 or 10 years but eventually you will. especially if it travelled around the world with you, trust me. i am sure others will agree with me.

imagine someday passing that on to a son or grandson (daughter or granddaughter) while telling them the stories about you and your travels.

I knew it was a decent box, but glad to hear it being compared to truck brands.

I'm not getting rid of it anytime soon, but I'll need to pick up something else when I get back to the states. Maybe I'll get something to supplement it instead of selling it.

Thanks for the input.

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Lets see some drawer pics.

I bet you could be more frugal in your space.

Nothing to show yet. Box is in the garage but it's a mess (just arrived a few days ago) and my tools are all over the place. Once I start working on organization, I'll post pics.

Thanks,

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Make some tool boards for wrenches and screwdrivers!

I did and it saved me a ton of room in my box for sockets and pliers and what not. It also makes locating things much easier.
 
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Here's the cart that I'll be using for some of the storage.



I also have very large/wide windowsills. They are about 22" deep, maybe 40" long, and about 30" tall. There are three of them in the garage; I installed basic wooden shelves in all, so they'll be used for tool storage, too. The bottom ledge will be used for heavy stuff - c clamps, probably my 3/4" sockets and ratchets, etc.

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After -



I also have numerous plastic shelving units. When you move every 1-3 years, you realize how much you need these -- light, easy to put up and take down, etc. Will fill these up, too.



Again, please excuse the mess. Pictures are old and I've made a lot of progress recently.

Scott
 
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Ok, as promised...

This is my three drawer cart. I decided to load it up with ratchets and sockets. Mayhew pry bar set is on the bottom, along with a set of 1/2 impact sockets.

Here's the bottom drawer - my 3/8 stuff. Sockets are all Craftsman USA. Lots of different ratchets - Snappy, Bahco, Carlyle, HF, Craftsman, etc.

1/4"

1/2"
 
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The Craftsman box - starting from the bottom and working up -

Air tools


Hammers - kind of full. Those are Snappy dead blow ball peen's, Estwing claw/rip/framing, Estwing ball peen's, and Thor copper/rawhide.



Chisels, punches, transfer punches, etc. Mix of Proto and HF.


Files, nut splitters, bolt/nut removal stuff. Files are Nicholson and Craftsman.


Wrenches. Craftsman raised panel stuff and Gearwrench ratcheting.


More wrenches. One drawer for metric, one for SAE.


Body/paint stuff. Hammers and dollies from Martin. This is the top drawer of the bottom box.
 
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Top box...

Engine stuff - vacuum gauges, compression testers, ring compressor, valve spring height checkers, adjustable pushrods, rod vise, etc, etc.


Allen and torx drawer. Sockets are from Vim. Also a set of Ribe bolt sockets -- something you find on an Alfa Romeo -- somewhat similar to torx. Drawer is a mess; still need to organize.


Pliers - Craftsman, Klein, Knipex, etc.


Retaining ring pliers, snips, etc.


Screwdrivers. Still needs to be organized.


Top. Will add cleaning brushes, scrapers, etc.
 

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Man I sure was cracking up when I saw how you proudly sealed that window up. I thought that'd be something only I would do!

First off, separate a lot of them doubles from your toolbox. No way you need the cheap finish hammer, husky hammer, 4 copper hammers, etc.

Same with ratchets and pliers. If you got 2 solid same size ratchets, no need for the junky 3rd or 4th. Put those aside, pass them down, yard sale, or build up a basic tool set with spare tools to either loan out, or keep in another location for convenience.

I previously worked out of a Chevy S-10, now a Ford ****** wagon. These vehicles are my daily drivers and house all my hand tools. I've completed clutch jobs, engine swaps, headgasket jobs, re-done whole front end, cut cars in half and then half again, all out of either this car or my S10, no problem.

Don't have everything, if I need a tool I get it. Not limited by space though. Last tool I needed was a 1 1/16" or 27mm flare crowsfoot.
If sears or HF conveniently sold sets like this I would of already had it, but hey. $20 snap-on from eBay.. might need to check up the trucks price out of convenience next time.

I use 1 large yellow stack-on toolbox, some toolbags, and a $10 22" craftsman low profile truck box. Working out of a car or back of a truck is not ideal for some But for me its such a pain in the *** when I drive another car and don't have all my tools.
 
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Man I sure was cracking up when I saw how you proudly sealed that window up. I thought that'd be something only I would do!

Man, I had to do that. I'll have enough problems with dust/dirt and humidity with the place somewhat sealed up. I can get a lot of stuff on the window ledges, too. You can see how wide they are, and they're also quite deep at about 21". I have three of them. This one is still a mess, one section easily holds my modest collection of C clamps. Most are used Williams that I cleaned up.



First off, separate a lot of them doubles from your toolbox. No way you need the cheap finish hammer, husky hammer, 4 copper hammers, etc.

The copper/rawhide hammers are different sizes. And I'm kind of fond of these.

But you have a good point. This was my first attempt at getting everything into the box. Some of the extra stuff will be given away. Example -- I got tired of being without combo wrenches in Korea, so I bought a set. And ended up with extra's now that I've merged my Korea tools with the stuff that was in storage. So I'm giving this stuff to my neighbor. Don't have time or energy to sell it.



Same with ratchets and pliers. If you got 2 solid same size ratchets, no need for the junky 3rd or 4th. Put those aside, pass them down, yard sale, or build up a basic tool set with spare tools to either loan out, or keep in another location for convenience.

Got to disagree with you there. I likes me some ratchets. They don't take up a lot of space, either. I'm often wrenching on old cars, greasy, grimy, and dirty. That's when I use a HF ratchet instead of a Snappy.

I previously worked out of a Chevy S-10, now a Ford ****** wagon. These vehicles are my daily drivers and house all my hand tools. I've completed clutch jobs, engine swaps, headgasket jobs, re-done whole front end, cut cars in half and then half again, all out of either this car or my S10, no problem.

Don't have everything, if I need a tool I get it. Not limited by space though. Last tool I needed was a 1 1/16" or 27mm flare crowsfoot.
If sears or HF conveniently sold sets like this I would of already had it, but hey. $20 snap-on from eBay.. might need to check up the trucks price out of convenience next time.

I use 1 large yellow stack-on toolbox, some toolbags, and a $10 22" craftsman low profile truck box. Working out of a car or back of a truck is not ideal for some But for me its such a pain in the *** when I drive another car and don't have all my tools.

If I was in your shoes, I would definitely cut down what I had. And I agree -- with the tools that I kept in my truck (when I had one), I could do just about any job. But while I'm short on space, I'm in ok shape for now.

Thanks for the input. Great first post on GJ.

Scott
 

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Well I'm having trouble sleeping so why not hop on here and ramble off some stuff that works for me. Note I'm not looking up the best prices just good examples.

1. Sockets and ratchets arranged by size - all 1/4 stuff, then 3/8, then 1/2, and 3/4.

I like the Lisle magnetic socket racks. I have two in each size (red for metric green for standard) and stack them atop on another in the drawer saving a lot of space while still being useful. Bonus makes it easy to grab the whole rack and take with me. The con is the magnet isn't that strong and wouldn't really trust carrying the thing by the handle past the 1/4" size.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002STSTY/?tag=atomicindus08-20

2. Wrenches? Any ideas on wrench organization? Take up too much room right now just laying them flat.

Go vertical with a Ernst wrench tower. This will clear out a whole wrench drawer. Again it is nice to be able to grab the entire rack to take with. Cons are you can't really lay it in a drawer to lock up and at some point you will kick it because you forgot it was there on the floor.

Side note I really do like the whole Ernst line for organizing tools.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007DOWL0I/?tag=atomicindus08-20

3. Screwdrivers?

On the side of my cart I have a Sunex locking screwdriver/prybar holder. I found the locking part to be in the way so pulled the hing and off it went. This holds 6 of my prybars, several screw drivers and my larger ratchets. Truth is I filled one up so easy I could use a second

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JL33QI/?tag=atomicindus08-20

4. Pliers?

The pliers rack is just awesome! get one and it will free up a huge amount of space

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NRHELOO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

5. Hammers?

I haven't come across a gread hammer solution yet so they just get their own drawer in my box.

Another though is to mount magnet bars to the lid or sides of the box so you can just stick tools to them.

http://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-magnetic-tool-holder-61199.html

Well I hope some of this rambling made sense now back to bed. Hopefully I can get some shut eye before the alarm goes off.
 

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The copper/rawhide hammers are different sizes. And I'm kind of fond of these.

I hear ya. Just picked up a beat up lead hammer a few weeks ago and am loving it thus far. Plan on casting a smaller one for my work toolkit.

If I had the space, I'd be in the same position.
And you are right about ratchets. I've been in a situation where 2 was needed with 15mm deep wells on each. Then there's the time my brother broke 2 in a row.
I guess I carry 4 3/8" ratchets. 2 for my personal tools and 2 for my work toolbox, the others I leave at home. But if I didn't have a toolbox for work (Bicycle assembler) I probably would have the 3rd and if I had a Snappy, probably would have a 4th too!


Edit: Oh and where's all them crowbars, prybars and big ******* chisels? "Yes I know you don't typically remove doors with a 1 clawed hammer and railroad spike but this is the way I used to do it in the mountains all the time. It's relaxing."
 
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I knew it was a decent box, but glad to hear it being compared to truck brands.

I'm not getting rid of it anytime soon, but I'll need to pick up something else when I get back to the states. Maybe I'll get something to supplement it instead of selling it.

Thanks for the input.

Scott

If you come back here Scott I can hook you up with a little extra storage. Keep your eyes open over there................
 
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Well I'm having trouble sleeping so why not hop on here and ramble off some stuff that works for me. Note I'm not looking up the best prices just good examples.

1. Sockets and ratchets arranged by size - all 1/4 stuff, then 3/8, then 1/2, and 3/4.

I like the Lisle magnetic socket racks. I have two in each size (red for metric green for standard) and stack them atop on another in the drawer saving a lot of space while still being useful. Bonus makes it easy to grab the whole rack and take with me. The con is the magnet isn't that strong and wouldn't really trust carrying the thing by the handle past the 1/4" size.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002STSTY/?tag=atomicindus08-20

2. Wrenches? Any ideas on wrench organization? Take up too much room right now just laying them flat.

Go vertical with a Ernst wrench tower. This will clear out a whole wrench drawer. Again it is nice to be able to grab the entire rack to take with. Cons are you can't really lay it in a drawer to lock up and at some point you will kick it because you forgot it was there on the floor.

Side note I really do like the whole Ernst line for organizing tools.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B007DOWL0I/?tag=atomicindus08-20

3. Screwdrivers?

On the side of my cart I have a Sunex locking screwdriver/prybar holder. I found the locking part to be in the way so pulled the hing and off it went. This holds 6 of my prybars, several screw drivers and my larger ratchets. Truth is I filled one up so easy I could use a second

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000JL33QI/?tag=atomicindus08-20

4. Pliers?

The pliers rack is just awesome! get one and it will free up a huge amount of space

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NRHELOO/?tag=atomicindus08-20

5. Hammers?

I haven't come across a gread hammer solution yet so they just get their own drawer in my box.

Another though is to mount magnet bars to the lid or sides of the box so you can just stick tools to them.

http://www.harborfreight.com/18-in-magnetic-tool-holder-61199.html

Well I hope some of this rambling made sense now back to bed. Hopefully I can get some shut eye before the alarm goes off.

Thanks for the detailed post and recommendations.

On the socket organization, I'm satisfied with the Craftsman organizers. They're not perfect, but they don't take up much space, they're inexpensive, and it's easy to grab one and move all of one flavor (1/2 6 point deep metric, for example) to where you're working.

For the wrench and plier organization, I'll stick with what I have. Workbench space is at a premium in my garage. I like the idea of a pegboard for the wrenches, but not sure if it's worth the effort to put one up since I'm in a rental house.

Prybar/screwdriver holder is quite nice -- I will have to pick up one of these. Like you, I don't need to lock it up, so I can remove the cover from it.

Thanks again for all the input.

Scott
 
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I hear ya. Just picked up a beat up lead hammer a few weeks ago and am loving it thus far. Plan on casting a smaller one for my work toolkit.

If I had the space, I'd be in the same position.
And you are right about ratchets. I've been in a situation where 2 was needed with 15mm deep wells on each. Then there's the time my brother broke 2 in a row.
I guess I carry 4 3/8" ratchets. 2 for my personal tools and 2 for my work toolbox, the others I leave at home. But if I didn't have a toolbox for work (Bicycle assembler) I probably would have the 3rd and if I had a Snappy, probably would have a 4th too!

Edit: Oh and where's all them crowbars, prybars and big ******* chisels? "Yes I know you don't typically remove doors with a 1 clawed hammer and railroad spike but this is the way I used to do it in the mountains all the time. It's relaxing."

Before I became a GJ member, I had about 4 ratchets - 1/4, 3/8 x 2, and 1/2. And then I read the ratchet thread, with members casually talking about their collections of hundreds of ratchets. And I saw the light. And I bought dozens of ratchets - stubby, long, short, roto head, 80 tooth, smooth handle, comfort grip, and kung fu grip from all the major manufacturers. And life was good.:thumb up:

I don't do much demolition work, but I do have a crusty old crowbar, and my Mayhew prybar set is in the bottom of the tool cart. I also have a HF set of prybars that I'll probably give away. Don't have any larger chisels; not sure what I would use them on.

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If you come back here Scott I can hook you up with a little extra storage. Keep your eyes open over there................

Todd -

We'll definitely end up there in the next 10 years. I'm retirement eligible in 11 months, but will probably do another tour or two before I hang up my boots.

I'm thinking there has to be deals on toolboxes here, but I haven't really paid attention to what the Italians use.

Thanks

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I have a bit of a ratchet "problem" and a hammer "problem." I have about 40 ratchets, and maybe 20 hammers.

I hear ya, you seriously need more hammers for sure but if you're already having storage probs. here are some great separate storage ideas for hammers.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268702


So, what would you put in the box first, and how?

1. Sockets and ratchets arranged by size - all 1/4 stuff, then 3/8, then 1/2, and 3/4.

Socket organizers, mostly standing up.

2. Wrenches? Any ideas on wrench organization? Take up too much room right now just laying them flat.

Gotta use wrench racks or coil springs to stand them on edge.

3. Screwdrivers?

I lay em flat in the drawer, philips point toward front, slotted toward the back so shafts are in the middle.

4. Pliers?

Get wrench racks and stand em on edge. I use a bathtub rack which is just chromed wire. I see them in junk shops in the kitchen/bathroom area and they're a few bucks only.



5. Hammers?

See above link.

Figure all my automotive specialty tools (connecting rod vise, valve spring compressor, etc, etc, etc) will go on a shelf or in a cabinet. Air tools and electric tools on a shelf. Welding stuff on a shelf or in a cabinet. C-clamps - all on a shelf. Carpentry stuff on a shelf or in a cabinet.

Thanks!

Scott[/QUOTE]

I hang my c-clamps off a pipe strapped to the bottom of my exposed rafters but a pipe attached to the wall like a towel rack would work well also. They are easy to find with good access to any one of them and don't take any useable space in prime areas.

 
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I hear ya, you seriously need more hammers for sure but if you're already having storage probs. here are some great separate storage ideas for hammers.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=268702


So, what would you put in the box first, and how?

1. Sockets and ratchets arranged by size - all 1/4 stuff, then 3/8, then 1/2, and 3/4.

Socket organizers, mostly standing up.

2. Wrenches? Any ideas on wrench organization? Take up too much room right now just laying them flat.

Gotta use wrench racks or coil springs to stand them on edge.

3. Screwdrivers?

I lay em flat in the drawer, philips point toward front, slotted toward the back so shafts are in the middle.

4. Pliers?

Get wrench racks and stand em on edge. I use a bathtub rack which is just chromed wire. I see them in junk shops in the kitchen/bathroom area and they're a few bucks only.



5. Hammers?

See above link.

Figure all my automotive specialty tools (connecting rod vise, valve spring compressor, etc, etc, etc) will go on a shelf or in a cabinet. Air tools and electric tools on a shelf. Welding stuff on a shelf or in a cabinet. C-clamps - all on a shelf. Carpentry stuff on a shelf or in a cabinet.

Thanks!

Scott

I hang my c-clamps off a pipe strapped to the bottom of my exposed rafters but a pipe attached to the wall like a towel rack would work well also. They are easy to find with good access to any one of them and don't take any useable space in prime areas.

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Thanks for the info. Link on hammer organization was pretty good, but really like your plier organization -- that's sweet. Definitely going to look for one of those.

Good tip (pun intended) on the screwdrivers. I'll implement this.

On the wrenches -- does anyone have pictures of holding them up with coil springs and/or tips on where to find the right spring? I'm using two drawers for wrenches now, but might be able to condense to one with the right system.

Thanks!

Scott
 
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So I was using toolboxes for storage of stuff -- one had mostly nuts, bolts, and washers, and the other had electrical stuff. Really think I could make a better use of the space, so I got rid of one toolbox and now I'm planning to get rid of the other (top and bottom Craftsman - one of the smaller setups that I outgrew years ago).

Any recommendation on what type of container to use for electrical stuff? Just your usual assortment of automotive related connectors, etc. I'm thinking something plastic with a lot of drawers.

Maybe something similar for nuts and bolts? Would have to be fairly large and heavier duty, but I'm still thinking something plastic with lots of drawers would work.

Thanks!

Scott
 
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