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TonyMazz

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I am tired of moving things around and have too much "stuff". I am going to remodel my area ...trouble is I only have a 34 X 27 space....

I see many folks that have neat clean spaces, but my space has to perform multiple functions i.e. wood working, auto working, lawn equip storage, etc.

My benches end up as another shelf and then I end up moving **** around all the time and makes it worse.....

How does everyone else deal with clutter....?????
 

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JMURiz

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Maybe an over-head shelf all around the shop (12-14" deep) with crates on them to store less often used items.

One way to make it look more orderly is to put stuff in cabinet with doors that close...out of sight out of mind.

Then again I'm more of a minimalist and would kill to have a garage 34x27!!!
 

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Do you have any space for a tall cabinet? To me, it just looks cluttered because every thing is out on open shelves. The open shelves like you have sometimes don't utilize available space most efficiently. I would start by moving out stuff you don't use on a regular basis. I'm not one to talk because my space is the same way. I've got all this stuff out in the open and it make my space very cluttlered and I'm always having to move stuff to create space to work.
 

christian

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Get or build cabinets to hide everything. Build a shed for the garden stuff. Be lucky your wife doesn't want her car in there!
 

rhpaw

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You're doing pretty good in my book.. I didn't see any small bicycles, Tonka dump trucks or random boxes around.

I would take a pic of my space for comparison, but I'm afraid I'd be ridiculed off the board. (not so good for a first post)
I'm working as best I can on getting my workspace into a usable matter, but it seem that everytime I come home from work the kids and wife have plotted against me. -Apparently I wasn't on the memo where a 3 car garage equaled, 1 for wife, 1 for my broken issues, and 1 for strollers, bicycles, recycle bins, $@#SAND!@#$.. and whatever else they can dream up for the day.
One of these days I'm buying a barn.

Also I seem to have a sickness that involves hoarding cardboard.. but I won't get into that now.
 

aac1431

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I too have a cluttered garage (pole barn actually 30x40). My problem is if I clean it up my wife takes it as a personal challange to fit more stuff in the open space. Maybe when I finish insulating it and actually start grinding on the cars and dust gets everywhere she will have a change of heart.
 

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Given all you do with the space, I don't think it's all that bad! Looks real clean. Agree that cabinets would enhance the appearance; hit it all.
 

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aac1431 said:
I too have a cluttered garage (pole barn actually 30x40). My problem is if I clean it up my wife takes it as a personal challange to fit more stuff in the open space. Maybe when I finish insulating it and actually start grinding on the cars and dust gets everywhere she will have a change of heart.

Nature abhors a vacuum. I guess wives do to. My first project when the weather gets better is a new garden shed. the old 8x8 isn't cutting it. If anyone has any good plans or photos I would like to see them. I'm thinking 8 or 10x16 would be a good size. Needs to store all the garden items plus alot of camping and recreational stuff too.
 

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Mulepackin, I'm building an 8x12 shed pretty soon. I'll take some pics for you when it's all done.
 

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I use garage sales, ebay, Salvation Army, and Goodwill...Of course it all beloned to the wife at one time...hehehe
 

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christian said:
Mulepackin, I'm building an 8x12 shed pretty soon. I'll take some pics for you when it's all done.

I'd appreciate very much! (guess I'm like the Chinese tool manf. no creativity, but great at copying anothers ideas):lol_hitti
 

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I've got a set of 12x16 plans with a barn style roof with a full loft. But the one I built had to have a wood floor (set on twenty 4x4 posts over a septic field). I designed it around the 4x8 HardiPanel T111 style siding I used. I used a pair of 30" 6 panel steel doors for the doors and added a window in the opposite end. Here are some pics under construction.

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mulepackin said:
If anyone has any good plans or photos I would like to see them. I'm thinking 8 or 10x16 would be a good size. Needs to store all the garden items plus alot of camping and recreational stuff too.

Me too!!! Once the weather breaks here in Idaho I want to build a 12x16 behind my garage for a few yard tools, daughters powerwheel, 3 4-wheelers (smaller), my lawnmower, and a workbench on half of the back wall. Then redo the small 4x6 shed that used to be a smokehouse and use it for yard tools only. I have a plan drawn out, its gonna be tight but I can only build 200sq ft or less w/o a permit, which I do not want to do with this.
 

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Well,
include too as one whose garage (25X31) is too cluttered! Yard tools, car tools, woodworking stuff, two cars...and the room that's left is full of stuff my wife wants to keep!

But...one of thse days...we're going to put up a large storage unit with a loft. All the yard stuff will go out there and all the stuff she wants to keep will go into the loft!

Then it will be time to finally fix up the garage like "I" want it!

Dave
 
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1320stang said:
I've got a set of 12x16 plans with a barn style roof with a full loft. But the one I built had to have a wood floor (set on twenty 4x4 posts over a septic field). I designed it around the 4x8 HardiPanel T111 style siding I used. I used a pair of 30" 6 panel steel doors for the doors and added a window in the opposite end. Here are some pics under construction.

Hey- what did you use to fill the seams in between the sheets of siding? I hope to get around to building a largish shed in the backyard this summer and am in the process of collecting knowledge toward that. Looks like yours has lots of space.
 

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Just a good paintable caulk. I used construction adhesive on the studs, then nailed the sheets on with galv. ring shanks. It's 192 square feet so it gets under the 200 square foot permit in most places. If I would have had more ceiling height, I would have used 2x6s on the attic framing. The 3/4" T&G plywood floor sits on 2x6s so the doors don't have a lot of clearance under the 2x4 joists as they are under the top plate nailed to the studs (4th picture). I put a 4'x4' hole in the center and there is an easy 4' clearance under the ridge beam in the attic. For the trim, I used a white plastic 1x4 trim that was paintable, but rot resistant. Unfortunately, it wasn't dog teeth resistant. The owner was supposed to paint the shed himself, but they got a divorce and sold the house, so I never got any 'finished' photos. He had intended to build a Harley in it, the flashing under the doors was going to be for the conc ramp we were going to pour.
 

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Do you have a CAD program, or a program you can import a DXF file into? I never finished dimensioning the file, I can post it as a PDF, but you have to turn layers on and off in CAD to see what is really there. I have no problem publishing them here for anyone to use free of charge, but you'll need to give me a chance to lay them out better. I have a materials list as well as a cut list I believe.
 
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I would make as large as posible shelves placed about 6/7 feet high and use about 10 large clear plastic storage containers and pack and stack them. Also a large piece of the shop board that has holes already in it for hangers and fill it with small hand tools.like hammers, saws. etc
 

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Your space looks organized for the amount of stuff you have. I used plastic storage bins to combine similar things into, and then store the bins in closets/cabinets
 

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1320stang said:
Do you have a CAD program, or a program you can import a DXF file into? I never finished dimensioning the file, I can post it as a PDF, but you have to turn layers on and off in CAD to see what is really there. I have no problem publishing them here for anyone to use free of charge, but you'll need to give me a chance to lay them out better. I have a materials list as well as a cut list I believe.

I'm cad-cabaple and would love to have a set of plans. I'm really wanting to build a shed and yours looks like it fits the bill nicely. Great job, BTW.
 

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Hmm, thanks 1320, but cad is way over my head. Guess I'll wait ;)

Tony - have you considered trying to pick up some cheap used pallet racking?
 

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It looks like you have a few projects going on at once in different parts of the garage that cross into the space of the other projects. Keep things as seperate as possible.

For me, keeping the clutter at bay means putting everything away as soon as I'm done using it. Once a project ends, all tools and material get cleaned if necessary and put away.

The other thing I do on a regular basis is purge the useless **** that is just collecting dust. Unless there is a known use for something in a given time frame, sell it, give it away, loan it to someone if they need it, or just toss it.

Another thing that I noticed is that you have a few rolls of paper towel and masking tape hanging up in different areas. Try consolidating stuff or only having one item open at a time. Would definitely reduce the amount of stuff just laying around on the counters.

Rubbermaid storage tubs and a label maker (or sharpie) should become your best friends if you to clean up the look of your space and still have everything accessible at a somewhat reasonable price. I keep task-specific storage tubs or toolboxes on shelves in my garage. Some that I have are misc. electrical parts / wire, painting gear, drywall patch gear, tile tools , etc. I also keep towels for cleaning the vehicles in one - they stay clean and dirt free and don't get grabbed to wipe up other spills in the garage.

Closed storage cabinets or closets also make everything seem cleaner - out of sight, out of mind.
 

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Your shop looks pretty decent. Here are a couple things I would do:
Dedicate one wall, or as big of an area as possible, to a shelving unit. Store-bought, or self-built. Now the big key here is to absolutely maximize your shelves: don't have any dead space. For instance, if you've got a bunch of valve covers, intake manifolds, water pumps, or cylinder heads, those items don't stack well; you only need about 9-12 inches of height to store them. If you put them on a shelf that is 18-24 inches tall, you've wasted space on your shelf. I store things in blue plastic clam-shell lid tote boxes. They're 16 inches tall. If you have your shelves spaced 20-24 inches heigh, you've wasted 2-6 inches. If you have 8 shelves, at an average of 4-inches of height per shelf wasted, that's easily enough to add an extra shelf to your unit. Now, if your shelves are 6 feet or 8 feet long, you've just gained 6-8 feet of free storage.
I've got my big shelving unit maximized to the accomodate the blue boxes, and then a short shelf for heads, intakes, valve covers, etc.

Looks like you've already got some closet shelves (wire shelf) along the top of the wall. That's a good deal. I like that, too.
How tall is your ceiling? If it's 12 feet, you can build a storage closet in one corner and put all your cleaning supplies, air compressor, shop vacuum, brooms, etc. inside it, and make it have a 6.5-inch ceiling. Then the top can be used as a storage loft. I've got one in my 32x40 shop, and it gets A TON of junk off the floor...big, awkward junk.

How about shelves or a storage cabinet about the garage door. Usually wasted space there.

I noticed you have a shelf with a ton of aerosol cans on it--if you have a lot of spray cans, buy a plastic milk crate (or two), tip it on its side, and lay your paint cans on their sides, stacked in the crate. That has several benefits: you always see the lid of the can you're looking for, you never have to search for the can you're looking for, you never tip over the cans in front of the shelf as you reach for the cans in the back, and the paint mixes quicker because the solids are spread along the whole height of the can rather than all settled down at the bottom. It also saves a lot of room storing them.

If you have anything that's too good to throw away but not good enough to keep...throw it away. You won't miss it, even though it feels like you will.

I have a problem with clutter in my shop, and garbage. Clutter accumulates on any horizontal surface within 3 feet of a door. If I have something that needs to go in the shop, I step in the door and set it on the bench/shelf/parts washer/cart, thinking I'll put it away the next time I'm in the shop. VERY bad habbit.

I also used to have a problem with garbage in my shop--tags, wrappers, plastic bags, empty soda cans, etc. Anything that should hit the garbage can. Problem was, I only had one garbage can in the shop (32x40), and it was always on the other side of the shop, so again, I'd set it on the bench and figure I'd throw it away at the end of the day. Never happens. Now I have a garbage can in the front and back of the shop. At least I've solved that problem.

White pegboard and white painted shelves also give the appearance of a bigger, cleaner and more open shop, because there are much fewer shadows, due to the light reflecting rather than being absorbed. It makes the shop not only feel bigger, but it appears bigger, and more open.

Brad
 

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boiler7904 said:
Rubbermaid storage tubs and a label maker (or sharpie) should become your best friends if you to clean up the look of your space and still have everything accessible at a somewhat reasonable price. .
Heres how I did my tubs, very simple
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Overall, your garage doesnt look that bad, a few simple things as mentioned will have you there
 

2dogs

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i have a similar issue .....
first post and reckon my shed fits in the clutter dept.
 

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