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ssdave

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It's always interesting to see people that insist that you buy all your stuff used. If everybody tried to do that, there would eventually be no used stuff to buy; because nobody was buying new....

I too have a SO KRL high quality box. Along with a Masterforce set and a Performax (from Menards) set, and a Kennedy set. I don't think I have duplicates of cheap tools stored in them, but haven't checked recently. I'm not a car guy, so my opinion is pretty unqualified by this thread. I have a Roush mustang that I use as a daily driver, I"ve never washed it; just drive it. My 20 year old pickup has never been through a car wash, although I occasionally pressure wash the salt off the underside of it. I don't polish my snap-on and arrange them just right in my boxes. I'm perfectly comfortable putting them down on the concrete floor, and occasionally hit them with a hammer as needed. I just like nice tools, and using them.

I'm thinking I'll also buy a few HF boxes and use them for general garage storage when I get my new garage completed. I'd have to search for 100 years to get 5 used, matched SO or MAC or Matco boxes at even 5 times the price of the new HF ones to use for that. And, the HF will be quite good enough in quality to serve the purpose.

Nothing wrong with using an appropriate level of tool for what is needed. Not everybody needs Snap-on boxes, and not everybody can find one used for a good price when they need it. For some of us, the pride of ownership is a pretty low priority reason to buy something. I do understand that for others, it is the primary driving force. Especially with car guys. I see some of them polishing their Corolla or Neon or C-10 weekly; there were muddy cat tracks across my car this morning and they'll be there until next time it rains. Some of us just think differently than others; there's room for both.

As for what makes SO worth more than HF?

1) Build and design is better. Drawers, cabinet, hardware.
2) Slides work better.
3) Latch system works better.
4) Suspension and casters are better.
5) Parts support and warranty are better.
6) Weight capacity is better.
7) Durability is a lot higher.

Does that make it a good buy? Depends. What are your needs, and what are your resources to buy it with. You can easily buy 10 HF new for what a new SO of comparable size will cost. If the HF just worked perfectly the same as the SO, but wore out every 2 years without degrading in performance in the mean time, it would be more cost effective to buy 10 HF's. But, the problem is, they won't perform as well the first day, and as they break down and wear out, will be even worse. If you need the box to work in high demand conditions, that would make it not worthwhile. If you don't have the need for that level of performance, and can make do with taking better care to not break the less expensive box, the HF would be a good choice.

Make the decision of what to buy based on your needs.
 
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I have two older Craftsman tool boxes. One has bb drawers glides, the other doesn't. Both have stood up to 30+ years of use, not as a mechanic but active hobbyist. I always look at the used snap on stuff, but end up spending the extra $ on tools. One day I will get one big box to hold all my tools. I'll be looking at Snap On. Will I get one... maybe.
 

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Not sure where the OP went but seems like he saw the StrictlyToolboxes link posted and saw what he needed. If I was looking I'd want something made in North America whether a used Snap-On, Lista, Vidmar... ad nauseum or a new International (made in Canada) from Northern Tool. I like the Masterforce boxes but hate that they are offshore.
I've been thinking for 3 days watching this thread about how to respond. I think partsguy57 has been overbearing to say the least about his opinion. While I happen to find it valid I also understand when someone wants to go a different direction. I hate the idea of having a box for 20 years, the slides wearing out and not being able to get parts because at that point the box has sentimental value to me. If you don't care about that or what you're supporting by buying Chinese/offshore then it's probably the better option in the long run.
 

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Broncobilly - any decision yet?


My vote is for Masterforce, especially after their latest re-design and going to all 24-inch deep boxes. I realize they are offshore, but you can buy 3 boxes (or more) for what you're looking to spend.

If you want a bigger name, a friend has had 2 Mac Tools boxes (no idea where they're made). The first one he beat the hell out of for over 8 years and never had any issues (owns his own garage; at least 50hrs/wk working). His new/second one he got because it's a lot bigger and the price was impossible to pass up. Other than being longer, this one is deeper too (something like 28" or 30", and wow does that make a huge difference.

I'm all about a quality box, but I can't justify spending the price of a small car on a box.
 

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It's always interesting to see people that insist that you buy all your stuff used. If everybody tried to do that, there would eventually be no used stuff to buy; because nobody was buying new....

I too have a SO KRL high quality box. Along with a Masterforce set and a Performax (from Menards) set, and a Kennedy set. I don't think I have duplicates of cheap tools stored in them, but haven't checked recently. I'm not a car guy, so my opinion is pretty unqualified by this thread. I have a Roush mustang that I use as a daily driver, I"ve never washed it; just drive it. My 20 year old pickup has never been through a car wash, although I occasionally pressure wash the salt off the underside of it. I don't polish my snap-on and arrange them just right in my boxes. I'm perfectly comfortable putting them down on the concrete floor, and occasionally hit them with a hammer as needed. I just like nice tools, and using them.

I'm thinking I'll also buy a few HF boxes and use them for general garage storage when I get my new garage completed. I'd have to search for 100 years to get 5 used, matched SO or MAC or Matco boxes at even 5 times the price of the new HF ones to use for that. And, the HF will be quite good enough in quality to serve the purpose.

Nothing wrong with using an appropriate level of tool for what is needed. Not everybody needs Snap-on boxes, and not everybody can find one used for a good price when they need it. For some of us, the pride of ownership is a pretty low priority reason to buy something. I do understand that for others, it is the primary driving force. Especially with car guys. I see some of them polishing their Corolla or Neon or C-10 weekly; there were muddy cat tracks across my car this morning and they'll be there until next time it rains. Some of us just think differently than others; there's room for both.

As for what makes SO worth more than HF?

1) Build and design is better. Drawers, cabinet, hardware.
2) Slides work better.
3) Latch system works better.
4) Suspension and casters are better.
5) Parts support and warranty are better.
6) Weight capacity is better.
7) Durability is a lot higher.

Does that make it a good buy? Depends. What are your needs, and what are your resources to buy it with. You can easily buy 10 HF new for what a new SO of comparable size will cost. If the HF just worked perfectly the same as the SO, but wore out every 2 years without degrading in performance in the mean time, it would be more cost effective to buy 10 HF's. But, the problem is, they won't perform as well the first day, and as they break down and wear out, will be even worse. If you need the box to work in high demand conditions, that would make it not worthwhile. If you don't have the need for that level of performance, and can make do with taking better care to not break the less expensive box, the HF would be a good choice.

Make the decision of what to buy based on your needs.
Mustang??? Come on..... I thought you were a guy? Mustang is a chick mobile..... Spend speed some time on the yellow bullet forum.... you will see what I mean.. You do make some valid points but I still hold the best bang for the buck long term if one is on a budget is to buy quality used vs cheap new. People may complain about spending more up front, but You don't tend to hear to many complaints after that. You do hear plenty of complaints down the road on cheap through. Take harbor freight legendary for cheap and talk of will it last for the one job or maybe a bit more....

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Yeh about best tool you can buy used is a decent truck brand tool box.
In 30yrs of pro use all my boxes been used, some flipped for more money and current 2 matco intend keep till the end, was easier buy used before days of super easy online advertising that made prices higher and anything decent sold in half a day .
Always worth a look for used but I can see why lot want/need go new mid range or budget, homak rs pro, masterforce and international do some half decent boxes, I even see mechanics using some of the better built husky 24" daily without bother, for sure not a life long box but good service life can be had by right individual .
 

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Mustang??? Come on..... I thought you were a guy? Mustang is a chick mobile..... Spend speed some time on the yellow bullet forum.... you will see what I mean.. You do make some valid points but I still hold the best bang for the buck long term if one is on a budget is to buy quality used vs cheap new. People may complain about spending more up front, but You don't tend to hear to many complaints after that. You do hear plenty of complaints down the road on cheap through. Take harbor freight legendary for cheap and talk of will it last for the one job or maybe a bit more....

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Like I said I’m not a car guy. Just use them. I agree used truck box at good price is best deal, just not always practical to get one that way
 
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Like I said I’m not a car guy. Just use them. I agree used truck box at good price is best deal, just not always practical to get one that way
Depending on the situation may not be the best option. Cheers

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I am a Lista Distributor and do very healthy discounts for GJ folks, PLUS we buy all of the Lista and Vidmar show returns, slight damage, etc. They are all brand new and sell for half price. I currently have over a 100 pieces in my warehouse waiting to get processed and posted.

These are a few we will have the end of this month. We will actually be doing something special with the Wounded Warrior toolbox with 100% of the proceeds going directly to the Wounded Warrior Project.

Feel free to call us at 800-618-8028 or visit www.AmericanWorkspace.com (Formerly knows as Motorhead Extraordinaire)
 

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Do you have any pictures of your Remline boxes ? I have a much older 28" that I love, but I haven't seen too many others.

Sorry, I do not have any photos of the rem-line boxes. I had a bunch of photos on Photobucket, and haven't bothered to set-up a new account elsewhere just yet.

I bought a lower cabinet (7 drawer? 32" wide?) and a mid cabinet (3-drawer) ~1986. IIRC they were REM/XQL then around '88 I picked-up another mid cabinet to stack on top (IIRC this was a REM/XQL PRO that has beautiful ball bearing slides). All of them are red. They were a huge step-up from my original Craftsman 27" chest (3 drawer with a flip-up door) and and top cabinet (10 drawer) that served me well since the 70's, but they were not the sturdiest. I ended up giving them to an employee when I upgraded to a Kennedy set that I still have in the basement. The Kennedy was MUCH heavier - same size top cabinet, but the bottom was taller and it has all drawers. I never liked the flip-up door on the Craftsman cabinet - hated it, in fact, but at the time it was what I could afford.

I also have a late 80's Craftsman top and bottom that is pretty chintzy compared to the Kennedy and Remline boxes. Honestly that's sitting in a corner of the garage with a big plastic bag over it. It's half empty - the other half has some triplicate tools and things I will probably never use again - like 3/4 drive sockets. I know I should probably sell some of this stuff, but I have a hard time getting rid of tools - even when I've upgraded. I hear this is a common sickness.
 

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Sorry, I do not have any photos of the rem-line boxes. I had a bunch of photos on Photobucket, and haven't bothered to set-up a new account elsewhere just yet.

I bought a lower cabinet (7 drawer? 32" wide?) and a mid cabinet (3-drawer) ~1986. IIRC they were REM/XQL then around '88 I picked-up another mid cabinet to stack on top (IIRC this was a REM/XQL PRO that has beautiful ball bearing slides). All of them are red. They were a huge step-up from my original Craftsman 27" chest (3 drawer with a flip-up door) and and top cabinet (10 drawer) that served me well since the 70's, but they were not the sturdiest. I ended up giving them to an employee when I upgraded to a Kennedy set that I still have in the basement. The Kennedy was MUCH heavier - same size top cabinet, but the bottom was taller and it has all drawers. I never liked the flip-up door on the Craftsman cabinet - hated it, in fact, but at the time it was what I could afford.

I also have a late 80's Craftsman top and bottom that is pretty chintzy compared to the Kennedy and Remline boxes. Honestly that's sitting in a corner of the garage with a big plastic bag over it. It's half empty - the other half has some triplicate tools and things I will probably never use again - like 3/4 drive sockets. I know I should probably sell some of this stuff, but I have a hard time getting rid of tools - even when I've upgraded. I hear this is a common sickness.

Yes. It's also contagious and hard to treat. Sounds like you got your boxes pretty much the same way I ended up with mine.
To the OP: If you can get your hands on the Vidmar/Lista boxes, they are AWESOME. My buddy has a Caterpillar box made by vidmar and it's tougher than the KRL IMO.
 
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Mustang??? Come on..... I thought you were a guy? Mustang is a chick mobile..... Spend speed some time on the yellow bullet forum.... you will see what I mean.. You do make some valid points but I still hold the best bang for the buck long term if one is on a budget is to buy quality used vs cheap new. People may complain about spending more up front, but You don't tend to hear to many complaints after that. You do hear plenty of complaints down the road on cheap through. Take harbor freight legendary for cheap and talk of will it last for the one job or maybe a bit more....

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$4K would buy a pretty nice used Snap-on set-up... but I get the whole used vs new argument. New is really really nice and you get to pick out exactly what you want, but then you have to worry about it showing up with a dent or scratch from shipping. Used is used and you're pretty much guaranteed it'll come pre-scratched/dented.... but you can get a top of the line box but again you may need to compromise on configurations or color. Lotta "buts" there. I'm all about maximizing the value and the cosmetics are further down the list so used is high on my recommendation list. Good luck!
 

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Well im 55 trying to retire and i have all my boxes and tool and equipment for sale in the classifieds section under matco toolbox
Check it out if you are intrested
Its more $$ but its everything you will ever need
 

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I would second a Lista box from the below sponsor. Fairly serious hobbyist, I bought a tool box and a parts cabinet from them three years ago, and smile every time I open a drawer- seriously.

Do you "need" that level of box?, probably not but that goes for most things. If you're mentally prepared to spend that much, thats half the battle. I understand the thought of "best buy" or good enough of a Harbor Freight box, but also tempted by having top quality items.

Good luck with your decision.

MADC


https://www.americanworkspace.com/262-lista-toolboxes

I am in a similar situation as the OP, and this is the direction I am leaning.
I have a friend who has experience with both Lista and Snap-on boxes and he highly recommends Lista.
 
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