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brickG-man

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I am looking for a rolling tool chest combo (top and bottom). I'm not a professional mechanic but I am a professional tradesman, avid hobbiest, shadetree mechanic and tool nut with a fair amount of mechanics tools.
I currently have a 26" x 18" Craftsman bottom box with top chest with a sidebox. I made the mistake of adding a 3 drawer middle box a couple of years ago and now the top box is too tall. It's so tall that if I forget to close it the overhead door would hit the lid.

So I am looking for probably a 42" by 18' (nothing 16" deep) top and bottom combination. I would like self latching ball bearing drawers and a lid on the top box that opens with gas struts and good wheels. I would like to keep it in the $1,000 to $1200 range or less if possible. I saw a Husky box online similar to what I am looking for but haven't seen it in person so I am not sure of the quality of Husky.

Any suggestions?
 
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something like this?
 

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For your budget you could get at top and bottom box from Harbor Freight in either the 44" or 56" flavor. Actually with the 44" you could add some side cabinets and still stay in budget. 44" is 18" deep and has more drawers, 56" is 24" deep but fewer, larger drawers. Be sure to check for whichever coupons are available.

44" bottom
44" top
44" side cabinet
44" side locker

56" bottom
56" top
 
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For your budget you could get at top and bottom box from Harbor Freight in either the 44" or 56" flavor. Actually with the 44" you could add some side cabinets and still stay in budget. 44" is 18" deep and has more drawers, 56" is 24" deep but fewer, larger drawers. Be sure to check for whichever coupons are available.

44" bottom
44" top
44" side cabinet
44" side locker

56" bottom
56" top

Do the HF boxes have latching drawers like the Craftsman boxes?
 

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Given your location and budget, you should be able to find a nice used truck brand box with a little patience. Depending on the model/vintage it may have a drawer pull lock or just detentes.

As a last resort I'd look Menards and HF. You are outside of the budget window for those to be highly effective. IMHO
 

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Given your location and budget, you should be able to find a nice used truck brand box with a little patience. Depending on the model/vintage it may have a drawer pull lock or just detentes.

As a last resort I'd look Menards and HF. You are outside of the budget window for those to be highly effective. IMHO

chicagoland area for a good deal on a used truck brand box?

not likely...

everything around here is gold plated over the rust and dents....


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:dunno: Seemed like the Chicago boys have deals a plenty.

i dont see many around here on this side of the state line.

but i dont check CL every minute of the day.

there may be deals out there, but from my (limited) experience it's not worth the travel time.

i have a few selected places i check for used hand tools, for the most part used toolboxes are way overpriced, or beat all to hell, and aren't worth their weight in scrap.

i've gotten a couple reasonable deals on top boxes, and cantilevers.
CM & kennedy cantilevers were $19 & $9
CM 4 drawer top was $20
vintage PLVMB top was $30


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Take a look at the Masterforce boxes at Menards. They have the "griplatch" style
drawers and are available in red, blue and black as well the green boxes that are
stocked in the stores.

-Brad
 

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For less than $ 900.00, you could have the Harbor Freight U.S.General 56" roller cabinet and the 5 drawer tool cart...

That should fill all your squares...

The 56" does have drawer locks...

I have one, and, for the money, it can't be beat...

It's on sale now for $ 699.99!!!

Good luck in your search...
 

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I bought the HF 56" top and bottom a year ago for the same reasons. I turn wrenches on the side at home on just about everything and I really like it. I couldn't see myself spending more on a box that i didn't use everyday. Get the HF 56" and you will be happy.
 

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I have an older (not really old, maybe 2000ish, but not one you can still buy new at HD, AFAIK) Husky 40" combo. I was in a hurry to buy and got it for $400 off CL. I used it professionally for a couple years, can't complain about much besides the size (got too small too quick for me) for what I paid. I like it enough I rolled it to the back of the shop and filled it with specialty tools, because it wasn't worth losing over a few hundred $$.

Too bad you didn't ask in September... I drove out to Chicago to buy a side cabinet for my new box, and would have gladly toted it along and sold it for what I paid to cover my gas and tolls. :D
 

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chicagoland area for a good deal on a used truck brand box?

not likely...

everything around here is gold plated over the rust and dents....


:beer:

Like the guy in Lombard trying to sell 2 OLD snap on boxes. One for $3000 at one point been up there for more then 6 months. Down to $2000. STILL gonna sit there.
 
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Get one of the Masterforce boxes from Menards. Very nicely built boxes. Made by the same company that builds boxes for Montezuma. Better quality than the HF or Craftsman boxes in my opinion.

Ed
 

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Actually I really like this Craftsman box. Maybe if I keep an eye on it, it will go on sale.

http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-...p-00928433000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5

http://www.costco.ca/Stanley®-42-in.-Tool-Chest-Base-and-Top-Combo.product.10360308.html

Both boxes are made by International are both are from their "tech" series so the build quality is probably equal. The costco link is their Canadian site, and the price converted to USD is $710.

EDIT: It's on costco.com as well, but for $929. Go figure...
http://www.costco.com/Stanley-42"-2...nd-Cabinet-Combination.product.100037793.html

I agree though with someone's post earlier that the quality isn't all that great. I was at sears and their "professional" line seemed good, but it was $2000 for a 42" upper and lower. Everything else was unimpressive. I like that International boxes are made in Canada, but the bang-for-the-buck factor is low.
 
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Hello all, new to the forum and hate to highjack a thread, but the board rules only allow newbies to create threads after 100 posts. A rather large number of posts i Might add. Anyway ...

I have a 1977 Sears Craftsman Roller Tool Chest which is need of a few drawer springs and Slide rails. The slide rails are part number A-2834 (which are no longer available, and are 14-5/8 long x 1-1/8 high x 3/8 thick), and the clips are M-3163 (which are available).

I am wondering if anyone on this board might have two of the slide rails they would like to get rid of or sell. The case I have looks similar to the attached images.

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Get one of the Masterforce boxes from Menards. Very nicely built boxes. Made by the same company that builds boxes for Montezuma. Better quality than the HF or Craftsman boxes in my opinion.

Ed

I haven't looked at them too closely in person but looking at the website at the 56" box (this one), the .8mm steel, drawer weight capacities, and 17" deep drawers aren't super inspiring for me. The HF 56" box looks to have thicker steel and heavier duty drawer slides, though when I just checked the drawers are only 2.5" deeper.

The Menards box also has color options and a full with top drawer, which is nice, but not having seen it in person I'm a bit skeptical as to how it would hold up to a full load of sockets and such over time.
 
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I haven't looked at them too closely in person but looking at the website at the 56" box (this one), the .8mm steel, drawer weight capacities, and 17" deep drawers aren't super inspiring for me. The HF 56" box looks to have thicker steel and heavier duty drawer slides, though when I just checked the drawers are only 2.5" deeper.

The Menards box also has color options and a full with top drawer, which is nice, but not having seen it in person I'm a bit skeptical as to how it would hold up to a full load of sockets and such over time.

I have similar feelings. I stopped at H/F today and the quality of the 44" was not that good and no "grip-latch" type of latches. I don't like "detent" style drawers, they seem to shift the tools when they clunk closed. The 56" was better quality and 22" deep which was nice but the floor model was a little bent up. The larger drawers did have double drawer slides. I also stopped at Sears today and was not impressed whatsoever with the Craftsman boxes although I suspect that the 42" that I was looking at online :http://www.craftsman.com/craftsman-...p-00928433000P?prdNo=5&blockNo=5&blockType=G5 was more of a Professional line than the store models.

I am very curious about the Menard's boxes. They are available in red which is good as far as I am concerned, they have "Griplatch" style handles and it looks like the combo has a flat work-shelf that pulls out at the bottom of the top chest. I have not seen one of the larger boxes on display at a Menard's store. I didn't look into it yet but I suspect that I could have it shipped to a local Menard's store and pick it up there being able to check the box out for shipping damage as opposed to having it shipped to my house, show up with shipping damage and have to have it picked up and returned. I am not too keen about buying something online without being able to look the product over.
 

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Since you want to keep the depth to 18" AND you want a top and bottom, I'd look at this for the top:

http://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/montezuma-toolbox/36-montezuma-tool-boxes-crossover-tool-chest.html


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I their site you can see it with the socket rack/try lifted open.

I'm wanting to move to a large Lista type bottom, and no top, but if I was to get a top, that's the one that impresses me the most, as almost EVERY commonly used tool is right at your fingertips, and you don't have to futz with drawers to do it...

It's also available in red...
 
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Since you want to keep the depth to 18" AND you want a top and bottom, I'd look at this for the top:

http://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/montezuma-toolbox/36-montezuma-tool-boxes-crossover-tool-chest.html


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I their site you can see it with the socket rack/try lifted open.

I'm wanting to move to a large Lista type bottom, and no top, but if I was to get a top, that's the one that impresses me the most, as almost EVERY commonly used tool is right at your fingertips, and you don't have to futz with drawers to do it...

It's also available in red...

It appears that there is a lot of wasted space with the workstation type top chests. I prefer a full chest as opposed to the triangular shaped, although that laptop slide out shelf is a nice feature. To compare the "strictly toolboxes" 41" they look like nice toolboxes but they don't have the Griplatch type drawers, they don't have the pull out work shelf and they don't come in red. The black and blue don't do it for me.
 
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It appears that there is a lot of wasted space with the workstation type top chests. I prefer a full chest as opposed to the triangular shaped, although that laptop slide out shelf is a nice feature. To compare the "strictly toolboxes" 41" they look like nice toolboxes but they don't have the Griplatch type drawers, they don't have the pull out work shelf and they don't come in red. The black and blue don't do it for me.

Oops, sorry. I just checked out the workstation combos and they do appear to have Griplatch style drawers. But I still prefer the top chest with drawers.
 

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It appears that there is a lot of wasted space with the workstation type top chests. I prefer a full chest as opposed to the triangular shaped, although that laptop slide out shelf is a nice feature. To compare the "strictly toolboxes" 41" they look like nice toolboxes but they don't have the Griplatch type drawers, they don't have the pull out work shelf and they don't come in red. The black and blue don't do it for me.

You are talking about volumetric efficiency, so think about that wasted space comment, and take a browse through the "toolboxes of GJ" thread. Then apply that "wasted space" concern to the overly deep drawers most tool boxes have today. Sure the drawers are getting wider, and in some cases deeper front to back, but much that top to bottom volumetric space is in fact wasted most of the time. After all, it's much cheaper to manufacture five 4" deep (or more) drawers, than ten 2" deep.

My current 15-20 YO 11 drawer Husky roller (only 26" wide) has mostly shallow 1-1/2" drawers, a couple at 4" and one wasteful 6" deep bottom drawer. I HATE that drawer, it's is quite frankly a miscellaneous "collector of "STUFF".

Yes they are tools, but many, if not most of them could easily fit in 2" or 4" deep drawers. Those 1-1/2" deep drawers are plenty for wrenches (even on racks, except for 1" and up), screwdrivers, Pliers (unless on racks, then 4" works better), and ratchets and extensions. Sockets need 4" drawers, unless stored on their sides (deep sockets) for the most part, (very large or 3/4 drive and up need deeper...) but even the 4" has a lot of wasted space.

Current designs appear to me to be designed mostly for the storage of blow mold boxes, which can far more easily be stored in either side cabinets with shelves, office type storage cabinets, or if you have a lot, a lateral file. But the common "solution" to needing more space is often a side box with a bunch of shallow drawers. So what did the "industry" do? Make "double wide" boxes that built the needed shallow drawer space into the second width... :wtf: Yeah, let's band-Aid the real problem with a "solution" that duplicates the add on band-Aid... :dunno:

The average person needs ONE maybe two 4 " deep drawers. One for sockets for sure. Even that drawer will have wasted space.

What I want in a socket drawer is an add-on side to side sliding tray, maybe 1/3 the width of the drawer, for storing ratchets and extensions, it can even have knock outs in its bottom to accommodate the drive of the ratchets so the tray can be a little as an inch. Those knockouts can even be sized i concentric circles for the different drive sizes, (or you could simply have dimples, and tell the user to use a step drill and position as desired...)

Store the deeps off to one side and you still have more than 2/3 of the drawer width to slide the tray over the shorter sockets.

The reality is that the average double wide roller wastes more space as this crossover box does, even adding in the total "waste" of that triangular space.

That space is mitigated IMO by not having to open and close at least three drawers constantly as you work. How much time is wasted there? these boxes are supposed to be saving us time...

You have available with one lift of the door, two sets of SAE combo wrenches , two sets metric combos, a relatively full set of sockets, a full set of drivers and all the basic ratchets and extensions...

You could probably do 95% of all your work without ever touching a drawer.

Historically, some of the most popular pro boxes had many shallow drawers, and these still command a lot of interest on the used market. But those boxes cost more so many took the less expensive route to "get by for now"

I know I shopped long and hard for that Husky I currently use as my main box, and the driver was to maximize the shallow drawers... Even that was not my ideal, but it was the best I could do at the time. I've far outgrown it, so the hunt for a decent wide Lista/Vidmar/whatever continues.

Everything in life is generally a compromise, but most of the current roller or stack offerings don't compromise; they are thrown together with minimal thought as to what actually lands in a box, but lots of thought as to how to make it cheaper...
 

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You are talking about volumetric efficiency, so think about that wasted space comment, and take a browse through the "toolboxes of GJ" thread. Then apply that "wasted space" concern to the overly deep drawers most tool boxes have today. Sure the drawers are getting wider, and in some cases deeper front to back, but much that top to bottom volumetric space is in fact wasted most of the time. After all, it's much cheaper to manufacture five 4" deep (or more) drawers, than ten 2" deep.


the overall drawer depth of most modern toolboxes is, IMHO, a huge waste of available storage space.
true, there are a lot of things sold in blow molded cases now, and storage is needed for the volume of the case.

i prefer multiple shallow drawers for most tools, and a side cab with shelves for those pesky blow molded cases.
fortunately my boxes are "vintage" enough that i have what i need for the type of storage i prefer.
a couple more blow molded cases, and i'm gonna have to reorganize again... :willy_nil


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Take a look at the Masterforce boxes at Menards. They have the "griplatch" style
drawers and are available in red, blue and black as well the green boxes that are
stocked in the stores.

-Brad




Brad; I agree with Your suggestion... The OP stated what He was looking for, and the Masterforce boxes fit those requirements very well...
 
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Brad; I agree with Your suggestion... The OP stated what He was looking for, and the Masterforce boxes fit those requirements very well...

I very much appreciate everyone's suggestions, that's why I posted here. I haven't ruled anything out yet in a 41"+ or - box (with exception of the triangle shaped workstations that dictate where I place my tools). Menard's, stricktlytoolboxes, even Husky are possibilities at this point. One factor after finding the right box at the right price is the fact that I work out of town for 2-3 weeks at a time so lining up delivery is a consideration and also puts Menard's on the plus side after I get a chance to touch and feel one of the boxes. My wife is not going to take delivery of a 400-500 lb shipment at the house.
 

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I own the montezuma box Outlaw showed and everything he said about it is spot on plus some. If you get creative with magnetic tool/socket holders almost no space is wasted. Classifying it as tool "storage" is almost a misnomer. Once you pop the lid open nothing is stored. It's all right in your face and easy to reach or see if something is missing. I own a lot of "stuff" and almost everything is in some stage of redoing, replacing, work in progress etc.. That piece is just about perfect and isn't going anywhere. Got it from Strictlytoolboxes 4-5 years ago. Good transaction.

Also, everything Outlaw said about shallow tool box drawers is exactly opposite of how I feel about them. I work as a mechanic on modern cars and light trucks and find any drawers less than 3" deep to be near worthless. I have a 68" epic with six 2" drawers that won't even hold a test light or jumper wires right.

Those long ( front to back ) drawers are good for long tools ( like torque wrench's ) to store front to back with out rolling around every time you open a drawer.
 

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I haven't pulled the trigger yet... but every time I visit Menards I inspect the Masterforce boxes. Initially I was looking for a 41"-44" box and considered the HF 44". It is probably the best bang for the buck out there, but I don't like the drawer detents and have never been a fan of red tool boxes.

I don't mind paying a bit extra for the MF 41" box, but I don't like the drawer configuration. Ultimately, I will probably end up with a few of the
MF 36" 7-drawer tool cabinets in black. Unlike many folks, I like to have primarily thin drawers and the drawer layout of the 36" is a nice combination. It also helps spread the load in a non-pro box. And my preference is to have several smaller boxes rather than one large monster box and it is nice to be able to unload and move them by myself.

I have thought about building a "Steevo" style bench, but I like the mobility of casters.

-Brad
 

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FYI, a Lista will take that PER DRAWER...

I'd advise you go look at that thing before pulling the trigger. Open a drawer and see how much bow or oil canning it has.... (push down in the center, see how much give...)
 
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