Tool boxes are TOO DARN HEAVY

[Chris Adams]

Moved four boxes (and one of the carts) to the new shop.

That is through a 29.5 inch door, down 60+ feet of sidewalk, over the expansion cracks, up about 18 inches in the last twenty feet, over the door sill through a 36 inch door.

If I stop posting it will be because of a heart attack...

Sitting it out, the other three major boxes can wait.

It's only a little over 100 out there, really not too bad, but dang, I am old.

The Snap-On KR1000 with the KR1100 were empty (I'm not a complete idiot) and it still took forty minutes to move. Had to use the come-along, guyed off my F150.
Also had to remove the garage man-door. It is 29.5, the box is 29... Made it without touching paint on either side. Whew!!

The Matco is in the doorway, waiting for me to develop more energy.
Still got the big Husky, and the Craftsman Industrial, both full of tools. I lightened the Matco by about 500 lbs, figure it will be a snap after the Snap-On (pun intended).

 

[ImportTuner]

Would have been easier with friends and family .. but I know what you mean.

 

[-B-]

two wheelers, doilies, pallet jacks , and deep knowledge of leverage, also remove the drawers it will be lighter weight.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

I've moved my toolbox fully loaded a few times. Couldn't stand upright or walk straight for a few days after.

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

you remember this when you want to quit your job
I gotta downsize

 

[Chris Adams]

Would have been easier with friends and family .. but I know what you mean.

Had my wife helping, but she isn't a 'lifter' or a carrier. More of a, move the wheel chocks after I shove it, person.

My friends all work, or are too lazy to work, thus too lazy to help.

 

[vartz04]

man I thought it was bad moving my service cart upstairs by myself.

I took the drawers out, then took the top of the cart off the actual car itself, still a ballbuster by yourself.

I remember moving my dads 26" craftsman out of the basement, 2 guys at the bottom of the fridge dolly, and my dad steering at the top/pulling. All because he didn't want to take his tools out

 

[Diesel_Crawler]

 

[Chris Adams]

two wheelers, doilies, pallet jacks , and deep knowledge of leverage, also remove the drawers it will be lighter weight.

Two wheelers? Not that helpful on a KR1000...
Dollies not so good either.
Got lots of furniture dollies, and up to refrigerator sized dollies, but nothing that helps on a tool box.
Don't have a pallet jack, or a forklift.
My nephew has one in his yard, but moving it here would be more 'fun' than moving the boxes. And driving it the long way around from one garage to the other, would have been very entertaining (nice word for *****).

Actually, I usually pull the drawers, but this time since it was mostly just rolling, I moved most the boxes mostly full.

The hardest was the KR combo, and it was empty.

All boxes are now moved and I'm still breathing, so I'm gonna call it a win.

Maybe a day or two to put things back in drawers, but first, shelving in the old garage. Got a bunch of six foot by seven foot by three foot gorilla type shelves to put in.
Ten years ago this would have been fun

 

[chadster1]

I move toolboxes all the time.

 

[rsanter]

my brother-in-law was helping up move one time.
we tried to laod the toolbox in the moving truck using the ramp.
I know its heavy so we slid the top box off into the truck first and then went to roll the bottom box up the ramp. about half way up we were about busting a nut but we forced it up and got it done.
when we tried to slid the ramp back into the truck it wouldnt go in because we had bent the ramp. about 2 hours later we had straightened the ramp enough to get it back in.

bob

 

[Skyline]

Last week I wanted to order a little tray for my S-O locker, and I needed the exact model number on the backside. I found I could not move my box at all by myself.

We do move boxes all the time, as we're always buying used ones, but we ALWAYS move them empty. We have a few dozen plastic bins, and all the tools go in those.

Also, the trailers we use from Uhaul can not hold a loaded box.

 

[Skyline]

my brother-in-law was helping up move one time.
we tried to laod the toolbox in the moving truck using the ramp.
I know its heavy so we slid the top box off into the truck first and then went to roll the bottom box up the ramp. about half way up we were about busting a nut but we forced it up and got it done.
when we tried to slid the ramp back into the truck it wouldnt go in because we had bent the ramp. about 2 hours later we had straightened the ramp enough to get it back in.

bob

The ramps on the Uhaul trucks are only rated for 750 lbs. I'd hate to have to buy one of those aluminum ramps...I'd bet they'd charge a fortune.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Last week I wanted to order a little tray for my S-O locker, and I needed the exact model number on the backside. I found I could not move my box at all by myself.

We do move boxes all the time, as we're always buying used ones, but we ALWAYS move them empty. We have a few dozen plastic bins, and all the tools go in those.

Also, the trailers we use from Uhaul can not hold a loaded box.

My KRA is not the biggest out there, nor is it the heaviest/fullest. At my last job we loaded it in the company small van when i started/left (Car size, Ford ****** van) it was sitting on the bump stops and one of the rear tyres went flat with the box in it.

 

[Chris Adams]

Taken by my wife standing in the bed of the F150.
That's 7 top boxes, three intermediate boxes a cart and six rollers. The others stay in the other shop, got to have some tools near the house.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Are they all full?

 

[Chris Adams]

The ramps on the Uhaul trucks are only rated for 750 lbs. I'd hate to have to buy one of those aluminum ramps...I'd bet they'd charge a fortune.

When I brought the KR1000 and 1100 home I rented one of the bigger u haul trailers (my trailer was lent out... So to keep a friend from renting a trailer, I rent a trailer...) anyway the ramp handled the 1000+ lbs with no flex. I asked before renting and the guy said a ton was about the limit, but admitted he had never had one bent, at least not yet.

The smaller aluminum one (rents for 25 bucks) would have been too light. The box would fit, of course, but the ramp wouldn't do it.
The 35 dollar one works though.

 

[Chris Adams]

Are they all full?

No, ten empty drawers. Gonna sell the smallest three stack griplatch set, and replace the two intermediate 18 inch deep craftsman boxes with the KRA4114, when the lock gets here.

 

[SpiderGearsMan]

The ramps on the Uhaul trucks are only rated for 750 lbs. I'd hate to have to buy one of those aluminum ramps...I'd bet they'd charge a fortune.

I use a u haul a lot
but the box is empty and drawless - why I have a kr 660 -fits on ramp
kr1000 ? forget it

 

[bgott]

Rollback wreckers work well. I have forks for the loader on my tractor, I'm going to have to build a special skid to roll the box on top of to use the forks, the bottom of a KR1000 is not designed for forks.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

I have a KR 560. After buying it, unloading it from the truck myself...with several drawers out...I decided that would be the biggest box I ever get.

Unless a killer deal comes up on a KRL...

 

[stevejh82]

Here is a picture from my big tool move, all of the boxes were loaded on a driveway that came from a basement garage into the driveway that went up 8 feet over a distance of 25 feet. Almost ripped the handle off of the KRL when I hooked the strap to it to hold it on the trailer. This picture is after we got it out of the driveway and squared up in the road. An interesting day to say the least. Hauled them 90 miles with the straps you see in the pictures.

 

[rsanter]

The ramps on the Uhaul trucks are only rated for 750 lbs. I'd hate to have to buy one of those aluminum ramps...I'd bet they'd charge a fortune.

well I guess we know that the box was more than that

bob

 

[Skyline]

When I brought the KR1000 and 1100 home I rented one of the bigger u haul trailers (my trailer was lent out... So to keep a friend from renting a trailer, I rent a trailer...) anyway the ramp handled the 1000+ lbs with no flex. I asked before renting and the guy said a ton was about the limit, but admitted he had never had one bent, at least not yet.

The smaller aluminum one (rents for 25 bucks) would have been too light. The box would fit, of course, but the ramp wouldn't do it.
The 35 dollar one works though.

I use the 5X9 ramp trailers ($25), and moved my KRL double bank with locker...no problem. But it was empty.

 

[nate379]

Forklift works great. That is what I use to move the boxes at work. Hell I about use a forklift to put more paper in the computer's printer. ***** at home not having one, that's for sure!

 

[7.62]

A few weeks ago I was laid off, and I had to bring my box home. I used the forklift at my former employer to push the box up the ramp and into the trailer, which worked pretty well. Now I got another job, and I have to move my toolbox to the new shop on Monday.
So, I'm just wondering how you guys are getting them into the trailers? My thought is that I'll run a strap around the entire box and pull it into the trailer with a come-along. I'm trying to avoid pulling the box from the handle because I don't really know how strong it is, and with my luck I'll probably rip it off.

 

[Lookin4'67Galaxieconv]

My thought is that I'll run a strap around the entire box and pull it into the trailer with a come-along. I'm trying to avoid pulling the box from the handle because I don't really know how strong it is, and with my luck I'll probably rip it off.

That sounds to me like a good way to do it. I'm sure there's others here that will have an opinion.

 

[nissan_crawler]

I've made many a trip up and down a 1/4 mile ramp with mine.

 

[Stick Figure]

My thought is that I'll run a strap around the entire box and pull it into the trailer with a come-along. I'm trying to avoid pulling the box from the handle because I don't really know how strong it is, and with my luck I'll probably rip it off.

thats how i moved mine back to work, moving it out of there to begin w/ i asked my Matco rep really nice, and he used the lift gate on his truck to move it home for me.

 

[blown94conv]

I rented a U-Haul motorcycle trailer to move toolboxes before. It was a decent sized Matco, don't remember the exact model though.

 

[Chris Adams]

Here is a picture from my big tool move, all of the boxes were loaded on a driveway that came from a basement garage into the driveway that went up 8 feet over a distance of 25 feet. Almost ripped the handle off of the KRL when I hooked the strap to it to hold it on the trailer. This picture is after we got it out of the driveway and squared up in the road. An interesting day to say the least. Hauled them 90 miles with the straps you see in the pictures.

Great boxes.

When using the come-along with my KR1000/1100 I didn't even think about trying the handle to anchor to. I used 3000 lb test straps, wrapped around the locking wheels, above the mechanism. I knew the wheels weren't going to rip off, something I wasn't confident about the handle.
As a place to tie to, I wrapped a tow strap around a wheel, at the bottom of the tire, on the F150.

I didn't dare anchor to any body part, as it would have bent pulling the boxes up and over the sill.

 

[Chris Adams]

Forklift works great. That is what I use to move the boxes at work. Hell I about use a forklift to put more paper in the computer's printer. ***** at home not having one, that's for sure!

The guy wanted to load the box with his forklift.
There was a ding in the bottom of three of his boxes, about fork lift tongue sized.

I made them roll it up the ramp manually.

 

[Chris Adams]

http://www.uhaul.com/guide/index.aspx?equipment=opentrailer-6x12


is a link to the size trailer I used last time I moved big boxes.
The ramp held.

To load a heavy box on a trailer from a private residence is easy if they have a sloped driveway.
Back the trailer up, use the ramp on the slope. You get almost a level feed. When I unloaded it, by myself, I used my driveway slope, but my driveway isn't as steep as the one we loaded on.

I let the air out of all 4 trailer tires, lowering the bed five inches, making the offload very level.
Using the come-along and safety straps it was not a big job.

 

[rjohnson]

Back a couple years, dad brought his toolbox home from work. He used his forklift at work to load it. He is an Aircraft Technician, and he frequently moves his box at work. He made up a special subframe for it with huge casters, so tge box won't be damaged by pushing it or lifting it with a forklift.

 

[jkeyser14]

My tool boxes (vidmar cabinets) aren't heavy enough at 600 lbs each before tools. They don't have casters but someone could still steal them with a decent dolly. A couple friends and I actually used a dolly to unload them when I bought them. Luckily with tools in them they are quite a bit heavier and someone would have to go through a very large effort to take them. Still, if they were closer to 1000 lbs each I'd be happier. You rarely have to move them so I feel the weight is worth the security.

 

[arkangel06]

I think this is why we bought a forklift at my shop.....

 

[nate379]

Some people can't run a forklift worth a darn.

We had one guy drag the wheels on a box about 2 miles... Didn't lift it high enough. Wore them down almost to the hub! He thought it was funny until the boss made him pay for the new wheels.

The guy wanted to load the box with his forklift.
There was a ding in the bottom of three of his boxes, about fork lift tongue sized.

I made them roll it up the ramp manually.

 

[a390st]

What's fun is watching someone try to move one with a lift gate mounted on an old Isuzu cab over. Those cab over city trucks don't have enough weight up front for a gate to begin with. They had "borrowed" the truck after work one day to move a guy's box. We had let the guy go and he had this giant SO box full of tools that his friends were going to help him move. Between the weight of the Tommy lift and the box, there was no way they could get the gate off the ground. I was hoping to see the front of the truck start to lift, but evidently they didn't have a strong enough gate to do that.

 

[Skyline]

This is the trailer I use:

http://www.uhaul.com/guide/index.aspx?equipment=opentrailer-5x9

It will not hold a loaded tripple bank, but I always empty the boxes before trailering them. I always bring a floorjack, and jack up the front of the trailer to minimize the hump in the ramp, and make the slope more gentile. For the really big boxes, I strap up the box and use a come-along to winch it up into the trailer. This is unnecessary if you have a few strong hands around, but my teenage son and I have loaded 1500lb boxes with no other help, and neither of us are above average strength. There is nothing to winch to in the center front of these trailers, so I use a tow strap "Y" to the two front corners. By changing the amount of wraps of the tow strap, I can make up for the fairly modest length range of my come-along. For off-loading, just jack up the front of the trailer and it rolls off gently, (just don't get your foot in the way!).

 

[nissan_crawler]

Winch + lift strap.