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ARFLY

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I was in Sears on Saturday and saw a new tool chest. It is a 41" unit with 8 drawers on the bottom chest and 4 long drawers on the top chest. I looked up the specs on their website and it shows the drawers and slides are each rated at 75 lbs. So 12 drawers at 75lbs that is 900 lbs capacity. The casters are rated at 650lbs. That doesn't seem right. The casters can't support the weight that the rest of the chest can support or am I not understanding this right?
 
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It's not all that uncommon for drawer slide rating times all the drawers to exceed overall caster rating. You can say the same thing about my SO KRL 1022. Caster rating of 4800 lbs. Drawer rating of 232 lbs, plus a top drawer of 464. I max the drawer out, I'm at 3248lbs of tools. I put the top chest on and fill it's drawers to the max, I'm over 5500 lbs. Even Lists with their 450 lbs drawers, use 900 lbs casters so 3600 lbs or 5400 lbs load rating depending on casters. The only real time caster rating is really important is if the box fully loaded is going and going to move a lot. If it's just parked next to a wall for 20 years, the casters won't fail. If load rating is important to you, look up grade level. The new griplatch models are either 1000 or 1200 lbs rating. Not sure if craftsman bumped up from a 1000 lbs to Waterloo's offering of 1200 lbs on their offering of the same box.
 
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OK, thanks. Once it is parked, it won't be moved very often if ever. I just don't want to load it up and have the casters collapse.
 

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It's not supposed to make sense... they can't source slides and casters that work out perfectly mathmatically.

FWIW. That tool box you mention is pretty flimsy...

Seek another from somewhere else or go with the heavy duty version at sears.
 

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It's probably worse than that. If the 650 lbs. is the capacity of the 4 casters added together, actual capacity is less, as you have to figure capacity of only 3 casters. This is because when rolling, it's easy for it to be supported by only 3 at times going over a dip in the floor or whatever.
 

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OK, thanks. Once it is parked, it won't be moved very often if ever. I just don't want to load it up and have the casters collapse.

Pretty sure when they give a load rating for a caster its limit is the rubber tire or the axle. If it is a swivel caster, the limit may be the swivel pin, since that is typically offset from the axle. Point is, I don't think any of these are typical failure modes for tool boxes.

The sheet metal box and specifically the base where the casters attach is usually the weak link.

1) If you are intending to load every drawer to its max with boxes of nails, nuts, and shot gun shot, buy a Lista. Otherwise, normal tools, stored properly, can't typically reach the maximums on every drawer. Wrenches can be heavy, and I have maybe 50-100lbs worth of sockets. So you have to watch those drawers. I feel more comfortable with a socket drawer with at least 100b capacity if it is 40" wide.

2) I've seen boxes crumble from being overweight. The bottom buckles, the side pillars in the front cave in and the box collapses. One thing you can do for yourself is reinforce the bottom to stop the sheet metal from buckling. W

Start by reducing the point loads where the caster base plates meet the sheet metal bottom. Even if the bottom has reinforcing members around its periphery, this is usually insufficient. Start by cutting a good piece of 3/4" plywood and nesting that to the underside of the box. That spreads the load from the footprint of the casters more evenly across the bottom. I saw boxes guys in our factory use 1/2" aluminum plate (back when they had their own boxes).

Sometimes there is space above the floor beneath the bottom drawer on the inside. I floated aluminum angles in there, running front to back and attached my casters up through them. That provides an enormous amount of stiffness to the base.

3) Boxes can easily rest most of their weight on 2 casters with just a little on the third. That's why the suspension casters are best. Place shims under the wheel that don't seem to have much weight on them.
 

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Most likely the casters are 650lb each. Multiply by 4. Never seen casters rated as sets.
 

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Here's a 26 piece set of the heaviest combo wrenches I know of. 65 lb shipping weight.
How many sets can your toolbox drawer hold ? LOL
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001DNT7L6/?tag=atomicindus08-20

What's in drawer 1 ? 30 lbs ?
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How about drawer 2 ? Heavier. 45-50 lbs ? 70 on a binge ? Numbers make sales.
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Well the way I read it casterS support 650 lbs, not each caster. And quite frankly, they don't look heavy enough to support 650 lbs ea.
 

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Craftsman is the worst value in tool chest IMHO.

I would strongly encourage you to look at other boxes. Masterforce from Menards or HF.... Even the Milwaukee and dewalt boxes are not bad for the price. Lots of options to consider.


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X2. I don't hate craftsman boxes. Well, maybe the cheaper lines but the boxes above give you the same or better quality for much less. I was given a 26" bottom chest that retails for almost $500 on sale & it's pretty nice. No complaints but there's no way in hell I would pay that for it.
Like other people said you'll probably have a couple heavy drawers but most of them will be around 10 - 20 pounds if that. I would recommend looking around the local stores & looking for threads like craftsman vs ... & see what people say. Check craigslist & ebay. If you have room a deeper box is so much nicer. Best of luck


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x3 on no cman boxes, my bottom drawer buckled and fell off its supports a month ago. Now I need a new bottom box.
 
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I will probably just end up getting the HF chest although I would much rather have a red and black Craftsman chest. I have 2 older red and black 26" 3 tier chests in the garage now. My dad had a love for Craftsman tools. That is all he used except for Klein screw drivers. He liked those. It was all polished aluminum housing power tools, V series tools, and Crown top logos for him. I guess I learned to love Craftsman from him. He died when I was 15 and has been gone 25 years now. It seems that as time has gone by, it is getting harder to find something to hold onto that connects me to him. Craftsman tools has been that connection for me. Because of this, I have tried to remain loyal to Sears and Craftsman but Sears keeps making that harder to do. Dad would have never believed that Sears would run the Craftsman brand down to what it currently is. I am also watching Craigslist to see if something good shows up locally. The capacity ratings on that chest still don't make sense to me, but I guess some things don't make sense. It doesn't really matter as I'm going to pass on it.
 
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I have the bottom and it's a great box for the money. There's a handful of post around where guys have painted their box. You could paint it in an old Craftsman color scheme.

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