Tool identification

[HondoMan]

Right then,

greetings from Germany! For Christmas, my wife bought me a tool box with what she thought were leatherworking tools. Some are, but I believe most not to be. I've tried to determine what they are over here, but most seem lost, so any help would be truly appreciated.

 

[HondoMan]

here are some more and thank you in advance for any ideas!

 

[Roberts210]

Clearly these are the remains of an extraterrestrial starship's tool box.
(in other words, I dunno what most are)

 

[3baygarage]

Picture 2 looks like an adjustable wrench.

Picture 5 looks like a tinsmith stake.

 

[tytower]

Pic 1 -Some sort of special purpose plier
Pic 2- Adjustable spanner
Pic 3 -Tool to push leather strip through a hole
Pic 4 -Soldering iron -copper tip?
Pic 5 - Possibly square hole punch ,need more pics
Pic 6 - Steel chisels , posibly masonry or leather stamping irons ,need closer pics of tips
Pic 7 - Need more pics
Pic 8 - Duplicated
Pic 9 - Compasses green pin goes on other side,pencil through hole tightened with nut
Pic 10 - Duplicated
Pic 11 - Need views from other angles -possibly sander/holder

 

[woody 73]

Picture number 2 is very interesting any way for some more close up shots on both sides in order to find any makers marks.

It reminds me of the following make but I am sure many other companies made them:

http://alloy-artifacts.org/Photos/tools/cochran_speednut_wrench_pend_f_cropped_inset.jpg

 

[HondoMan]

Thanks for the responses - even the humorous one. It's late here, so I will take more photos in the morning. But so far it's a good start.

The adjustable wrench is what I was thinking. The last one with the wooden handle looks like a carpet trimmer. Not sure. I'll do what I can after coffee in the morning. Thanks again!

 

[HondoMan]

Right then, so several coffees and numerous photos. I looked well at all the tools and I am wondering if this might have belonged to either someone who worked on upholstery or on a sailing boot and repaired sails and other items. While there are Saddlery tools or leatherworking tools, most are not. I'll make separate posts for each tool, but this first one is of the majority.

One last thing worthy to say, the toolbox is of wood, which is one reason I am not thinking sailing boot work. Also, on the inside lid, there are pads to hold large needles and there are several - all quite large and included the bow needles as well. This is making me very curious and I am interested to know what all these are.

 

[HondoMan]

Item with the wooden handle.

 

[HondoMan]

Completely unsure of these. Some are silver and some a copper colour and the lengths vary. There is a total of 21.

 

[HondoMan]

Someone suggested this tool might have to do with soldiering. I think not. The tip does not move and I believe the entire rod is steel. There are markings at the tip 'EZ', if that helps.

 

[HondoMan]

I believe this to be a wrench or spanner(?) of some type. Anyone with a more sound thought?

 

[HondoMan]

Someone suggested a compass for these. I again do not think so. Both have needles or pins. One does have two slots, but a pencil cannot go straight through as the holes do not line up. One, the pin goes through the bottom, the other not. Quite interesting this one.

 

[HondoMan]

This tool reminds me of what might be used to turn an underground valve on. If so, I'm curious as to why it's in such a toolbox. Most likely not for that. These things are not only old but quite interesting.

 

[HondoMan]

This one, I was thinking, could be used to pull nails from the soles of shoes and boots. Perhaps not.

 

[HondoMan]

I have truly no clue as to what this is. From the holes on one side, it could be attached to a wall or board with screws or nails. Other than that...?

 

[HondoMan]

Not sure why this was included when my wife purchased this toolbox. To me it is not a tool. Appears to have belonged to an old printer. But I am not entirely sure. Anyone have an idea?

 

[HondoMan]

The remainder of the tools I easily recognize and have already used them in my leatherworking. But these last photos simply show the unique tools (to me at least) that were inside the tool box. I've never used such large needles and know of no Sattler's who do. This is why I am also thinking upholstery or sailing boat, but then the prying tools do not seem upholstery to me.

This is truly a puzzle.









I would like to thank everyone in advance for any ideas they might be having and look very forward to the thoughts and ideas of what these all might be.

I wish you all a pleasant rest of the week. Now breakfast and another coffee!

 

[Provincial]

The tool with the wooden handle looks very similar to a carpet seaming tool. At one time they used a glued fabric strip to join carpet seams, now they use tape.

The long needles with the handles look like tools to put buttons in upholstery. Put a button on a loop of heavy cord and thread the open ends through the hole in the needle. Then push the needle through the work from the top, unhook the cord and remove the needle. Then apply the right tension and tie off the cord to hold the button tight.

 

[HondoMan]

Thanks Provincial. The top tool I was also thinking about carpets so that might be. Your point on the long handled needles also is quite sound. Thanks for taking time to supply and opinion.

 

[HondoMan]

I wonder if the second set of tools might be hole punches or a tool to align holes. They are all nearly the same width, but of different lengths.

 

[tytower]

Perhaps the compass like tools are in fact to go over the edge of a sheet of say ply on a boat coachhouse where the bottom edge is dragged along the underneth cabin side and it marks a cutting line on the top side. But then what would "someone" know .

The chisel like tools could be caulking irons used to caulk a boat by "someone" . The small hand plane leads to a thought that these are from a shipwright's toolkit

 

[tytower]

File the tip of the soldering iron . you will find its copper .I can see the solder stain on it from here. They were often used to loosen old steel and brass screws

 

[tytower]

The angled piece looks like it is designed with a point which is pivoted on the large rivet
Any way this someone has better things to do

 

[HondoMan]

tytower, thank you very much for your thoughts. I will take an attempt at the soldier tool and see what happens. And you are the second person to say a caulking iron. Seems that is so.

Thanks and have a nice weekend.

 

[bobadame]

Number 5, the black lump of steel with a spike on one end is an anvil used for peening scythe blades.

 

[HondoMan]

Thank you bobadame! Very helpful!

 

[HondoMan]

tytower, you are correct! I used a copper brush and cleaned the end of the rod. It is copper and after doing more research you are 100% correct. It is a soldiering tool used by metal workers.

I also looked at caulking irons. Seems to me this is not them. While there is a similarity, there are differences. The ends are squared on the items I have, near to a tip. From what I saw of caulking irons, the become more flattened at the ends and spread-out in a spatula shape.

I continue to research this matter...

 

[Lee Celtic]

The remainder of the tools I easily recognize and have already used them in my leatherworking. But these last photos simply show the unique tools (to me at least) that were inside the tool box. I've never used such large needles and know of no Sattler's who do. This is why I am also thinking upholstery or sailing boat, but then the prying tools do not seem upholstery to me.

This is truly a puzzle.









I would like to thank everyone in advance for any ideas they might be having and look very forward to the thoughts and ideas of what these all might be.

I wish you all a pleasant rest of the week. Now breakfast and another coffee!

The long needles are indeed Buttoning Needles. you push them up through the cushion thread the two ends of the button thread through the eye with the button threaded on then pull it back through and tie off the button..

The cranked chisels are called Ripping chisels and are for running along the rails and framework inside and underneath a chair/ sofa frame knocking out the blued tacks used in traditional upholstery.. They are cranked to stop your knuckles scraping along the ripped up timber and tacks. You can see mine on the tool board just above the tape measure.. had it 30 years and find it really useful.

A lot of your collection looks to me to be Saddlers gear.. there is a wooden Tree as they call it inside a saddle which would explain the wood work tools, covered in leather that ties in the leather craft stuff and then the two are upholstered together.. imagine a bench to take the anvil for riveting and I think the strange handle with smooth sliding surface might be a seam polisher to burnish the suede edge to a leather finish.. the flat steel and copper tools may be to push filling into the saddle pads but they also be for turning some parts inside out after sewing. but it's just guess work apart from the upholstery needles and chisels.. them I know about.

 

[Offwith]

The remainder of the tools I easily recognize and have already used them in my leatherworking. But these last photos simply show the unique tools (to me at least) that were inside the tool box. I've never used such large needles and know of no Sattler's who do. This is why I am also thinking upholstery or sailing boat, but then the prying tools do not seem upholstery to me.

The top two I know as sack pins. You use them to weave a thread through the top of a hessian/burlap sack to close it up.

The bottom two are Czechoslovakian navy chisels. Very rare.

Offwith