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I hope it was not a snap on deal :scared:
Crazy people do crazy things. Probably could have sold it all outright at a flea market or ebay, but guess he needed cash now.
That reminds me, he should've called J G Wentworth :willy_nil
 

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Among the charges is "one count of using a two-way device to commit a felony." never heard that on on TV or real life. I guess that you must arrange your felony's face to face.

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Reminds me of the somewhat dubious urban legend about the bloke that insured his cigars and then made the claim that they were subsequently destroyed in "a series of small fires".
 

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Reminds me of the somewhat dubious urban legend about the bloke that insured his cigars and then made the claim that they were subsequently destroyed in "a series of small fires".

And then was later arrested for arson
 

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Reminds me of the somewhat dubious urban legend about the bloke that insured his cigars and then made the claim that they were subsequently destroyed in "a series of small fires".

I have heard that story too. I also heard that he was later charged with arson since the fires were intentionally set. :lol:

I am pretty sure that the guy in the news article was a Cornwell dealer.
 

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There are various versions of the cigar story floating around on the internet. Since the internet is 100% true and accurate, I have no doubt this is legit:

A Charlotte, NC lawyer purchased a box of very rare and expensive cigars then insured them against fire among other things. Within a month, having smoked his entire stockpile of these great cigars, the lawyer filed a law suit against the insurance company. In his claim, the lawyer stated the cigars were lost "in a series of small fires." The insurance company refused to pay, citing the obvious reason: that the man had consumed the cigars in the normal fashion. The lawyer sued.... and won! In delivering the ruling the judge agreed with the insurance company that the claim was frivolous. The Judge stated nevertheless, that the lawyer held a policy from the company in which it had warranted that the cigars were insurable and also guaranteed that it would insure them against fire, without defining what is considered to be "unacceptable fire," and was obligated to pay the claim.

Rather than endure a lengthy and costly appeal process, the insurance company accepted the ruling and paid $15,000.00 to the lawyer for his loss of the rare cigars lost in the "fires."

NOW FOR THE BEST PART:

After the lawyer cashed the check, the insurance company had him arrested on 24 counts of ARSON!!!! With his own insurance claim and testimony from the previous case being used against him, the lawyer was convicted of intentionally burning his insured property and he was sentenced to 24 months in jail and ordered to pay a $24,000 fine. This is a true story and was the 1st place winner in the recent Criminal Lawyers Award Contest.


I am pretty sure that the guy in the news article was a Cornwell dealer.

Yeah, I've only seen one Cornwell truck ever here in Ohio... the HOME of Cornwell.
 
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I dont get it..
It was undercover detective who helped coordinate the "theft" and "stole" the truck?
what! :eyecrazy:

Judge allegedly told someone — an unidentified police informant — that he wanted his franchised tool truck stolen so he could file a false claim and collect more than $100,000 from insurance.

The informant put him in touch with an undercover detective with the Polk County Sheriff's Office who posed as a truck thief and helped coordinate the staged theft.

The "theft" happened Feb. 17 after Judge parked the truck outside his mother's house with the keys in it, the Sheriff's Office said. He filed a police report the next day with the Lakeland Police Department.
 

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I dont get it..
It was undercover detective who helped coordinate the "theft" and "stole" the truck?
what! :eyecrazy:

I don't exactly understand how it's protected, but it's just like when you have a cop making a drug deal. Sometimes they bust, sometimes they deal and let the buyer or seller go without a bust (in order to garner more evidence). Crazy, but somewhat legal.
 
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$100k to start up a tool truck franchise?

I thought it would be more, I guess what kind of truck you get is the determining factor.
 

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I don't exactly understand how it's protected, but it's just like when you have a cop making a drug deal. Sometimes they bust, sometimes they deal and let the buyer or seller go without a bust (in order to garner more evidence). Crazy, but somewhat legal.
Seems a bit crazy sometimes, yes.
In this case it is almost as if the police found a guy with bad intentions and turned them into reality for him. Now we never know if he would have done the crime without intervention from the police. One could argue this is criminal manufacturing, but without more info that would be harsh. :)
 

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He looks like a sad panda, serves him right.

I don't understand the "one count for using a two-way device to commit a felony", does it really matter HOW he committed it? He coulda used carrier pigeons, still a crime.
 

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Reminds me of the somewhat dubious urban legend about the bloke that insured his cigars and then made the claim that they were subsequently destroyed in "a series of small fires".

Legend or not, that is why insurance and other legal agreements are all 10+ pages long.
 

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Seems a bit crazy sometimes, yes.
In this case it is almost as if the police found a guy with bad intentions and turned them into reality for him. Now we never know if he would have done the crime without intervention from the police. One could argue this is criminal manufacturing, but without more info that would be harsh. :)

That could be viewed as entrapment. Sounds to me like maybe that buddy of his had some legal problems and decided that he could leverage the situation to his benefit.
 

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"one count for using a two-way device to commit a felony" is basically a special way of saying that he used a phone to make contact back or forth with the guy to steal the truck. Sadly this type of charge is really only used in cases such as this to add insult to injury, by saying "ha, we got you and were goin to hit you with everything we got cause we dont normally do much at work" In smaller cases, they would not use a charge like that.
 

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Seems a bit crazy sometimes, yes.
In this case it is almost as if the police found a guy with bad intentions and turned them into reality for him. Now we never know if he would have done the crime without intervention from the police. One could argue this is criminal manufacturing, but without more info that would be harsh. :)

This guy (allegedly) approached a police informant (which is not a police officer) about getting his truck stolen.

He initiated contact with a criminal element, which passed him onto the police.

This ain't entrapment or "criminal manufacturing". The guy had the intent, he acted on that intent.

Had the police informant not been an informant, and passed the guy onto a real crook, the guy would have done the same thing, as evidenced by the actions he took when he didn't know he was playing with the cops.
 

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Among the charges is "one count of using a two-way device to commit a felony." never heard that on on TV or real life. I guess that you must arrange your felony's face to face.

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If that charge were to be charged in federal court, it would be referred to as wire fraud. Using a means of electronic communication to commit a fraud is a crime in and of itself.
 
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