motorheadjohn
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Need to add Snap-On as the owner/marketer of Blue Point.
Need to add Danaher as a (primary?) supplier of Craftsman?
Need to add Danaher as a (primary?) supplier of Craftsman?
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motorheadjohn
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I forgot to add -- DeWalt is owned and marketed by Black and Decker. The batteries will interchange on some of their the 12v (14.4v?) and lower tools.
The story about the redevelopment of the DeWalt brand is very interesting. If I can find the old links to it, I will add them. The short version is that B&D ended up with a reputation as cheap tools from being sold at stores like Walmart and Kmart. I've got a B&D jigsaw from my grandfather, and my neighbor in Calif had an original B&D drill. Both HD metal casings, replaceable brushes, etc. Good tools for the day. But think about what they sell today? Do you consider them to be heavy duty?
B&D was looking at the new, large-scale home supply stores and the big increase in sales by contractor-grade tool manufacturers to occasional home users. A lot of those sales were being made to baby boomers with big spending power and an appetite for quality products.
So, B&D had or bought the DeWalt name, which was defunct (IIRC think the original DeWalts were lumber mill and wood-working tools/machinery???) Under the DeWalt name, B&D started marketing a line of contractor-grade tools. They used the bright yellow color for instant brand recognition. And they only sell the tools through home supply stores and other contractor-frequented outlets, not discount department stores.
Look at how much market share they have captured over the past ~10 years. Smart marketing...and a reasonably good product line.
The story about the redevelopment of the DeWalt brand is very interesting. If I can find the old links to it, I will add them. The short version is that B&D ended up with a reputation as cheap tools from being sold at stores like Walmart and Kmart. I've got a B&D jigsaw from my grandfather, and my neighbor in Calif had an original B&D drill. Both HD metal casings, replaceable brushes, etc. Good tools for the day. But think about what they sell today? Do you consider them to be heavy duty?
B&D was looking at the new, large-scale home supply stores and the big increase in sales by contractor-grade tool manufacturers to occasional home users. A lot of those sales were being made to baby boomers with big spending power and an appetite for quality products.
So, B&D had or bought the DeWalt name, which was defunct (IIRC think the original DeWalts were lumber mill and wood-working tools/machinery???) Under the DeWalt name, B&D started marketing a line of contractor-grade tools. They used the bright yellow color for instant brand recognition. And they only sell the tools through home supply stores and other contractor-frequented outlets, not discount department stores.
Look at how much market share they have captured over the past ~10 years. Smart marketing...and a reasonably good product line.
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kartracer55
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Yeah, good point. My nieghboor has an old DeWalt scroll saw... its a dark blue/grayish color pretty cool. Gotta add that
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Uncle Buck
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Has the brand Diamond been mentioned yet? Does anyone know if they are still in business? They used to sell a quality line of USA made pliers and adj. wrenches, I have some of them. I do not know if they had a parent company though.
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hholmberg said:
As far as I know they are long gone, they used to make these pocket size pliers as I recall. I can ask the same guy about them, im sure hell know
l_bilyk
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Regarding makita, their circular saws are made in canada 
Coach James
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Diamond is no more. Cooper still sells files but under the Nicholson name. Many of them are still USA made.
Uncle Buck
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Damn shame about Diamond brand, they were a good line of tools.
l_bilyk
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Hey jim, put up "mastercraft"
Sockets/Ratchets, hammers, chisels, knives: Stanley (Taiwan)
Tool boxes: Home user (red, friction slides) - Waterloo USA. Older Maximum (black, roller) - Waterloo USA, Newer Maximum (black, roller) - China
Prybars - Some china, one from japan
Screwdrivers - mostly taiwan/china except for 1
Framing squares - USA
Compressors - Campbell (some usa, some india and taiwan)
Air tools - Campbell (Taiwan)
Table saws, drill presses, bench grinders - look alot like delta, made in china, but i am not 100% sure
Sockets/Ratchets, hammers, chisels, knives: Stanley (Taiwan)
Tool boxes: Home user (red, friction slides) - Waterloo USA. Older Maximum (black, roller) - Waterloo USA, Newer Maximum (black, roller) - China
Prybars - Some china, one from japan
Screwdrivers - mostly taiwan/china except for 1
Framing squares - USA
Compressors - Campbell (some usa, some india and taiwan)
Air tools - Campbell (Taiwan)
Table saws, drill presses, bench grinders - look alot like delta, made in china, but i am not 100% sure
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l_bilyk said:
Alright I have to add some stuff myself so ill get it updated later tonight. Can you be more specific on the cambell compressors? Is it like the oiless from overseas and the oil lubed ones made here? Thanks
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anyone no were westward tools are made?
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Jared said:
The stuff from grainger? Taiwan... im betting its from stanley as Grainger sells Proto too
Jared
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dont no if grainger sells it, I never go there. But autoparts stores around here sell them they seem decent by i figured taiwan or something.
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Stay away from Westward, my opinion, cheap ****. It looks and feels that way too, I did not even get to the point of wondering where it comes from!
Coach James
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At one time, Westward was USA made. Then production moved to Canada and is now Taiwan. I read this on the Westward website 3 or 4 years ago.
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krooser
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Here's a list..http://www.geocities.com/rab_cdg1/tools.htm.
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l_bilyk
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kartracer55 said:
I can't be more specific right now. They are making a move away from CH branded stuff to mastercraft branded. Right now Canadian tire still sells IR and CH air tools in addition to mastercraft. Eventually CH branded tools will be phased out and replaced with Mastercraft.
They used to carry IR and CH compressors. Now they only carry CH and mastercraft. All the mastercraft compressors are quite small and oil-less, made offshore, and i am told they are manufactured by CH. The big compressors Canadian tire carries are still badged CH. I am told that eventually they will be rebadged Mastercraft, a la husky.
krooser
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Nice list....http://www.hti.org/0410HTIDirectory.htm
utahdog2003
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am I seeing Hazet on there?...don't think so, but then again that list is getting long! Talk about some detail!
Hazet - Germany and Asia I believe...
Hazet - Germany and Asia I believe...
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utahdog2003 said:
DInk knows a heck of alot more about them there furrin' brand tools than I do
Ill ave to ask him, I thought they were mostly german made. What is made in asia?Jim
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kartracer55 said:DInk knows a heck of alot more about them there furrin' brand tools than I do
Jim
Please, Hazet and the German population would never let this happen....all German and a few US stuff...not very much......Germany is #2 on the anti chinese stuff....#1 Japan they in terms of tools ALWAYS will have either US or German or Japanese(gardening only on Japanese tools)
I remember when I was reping Wera and I was talking to the main guy from Germany...he told me that when there sales rep go around Japan...they dont care about the price....they will buy it...because they do not want the Chinese style stuff littering there tool selection
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What about lisle? All usa?
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Yes, I believe almost all of it is. Im still looking into hazet
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dink
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Actually alot of Lisle is Taiwan now
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dink said:
No way!?!?! They always boasted about being a US company for a hundred years or whatever. Anything in particular?
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I cant think off the top of my head....that is one company went down quickly....cost productive in there minds
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dink said:
There you go. I'm no pro on the Hazet stuff...just knew that some came from outside Germany.
utahdog2003
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William Tool? Looks like they are imported now, but I've got a compact socket set that I inherited when my grandfather passed away that is USA made. It's a great little set.
What a great thread!
What a great thread!
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You mean like J.H. Williams? I have a few things from them, the newest I bought about a year ago, still US made, or is this a different willaims?
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kartracer55 said:
You know, I'm not sure. I don't use the set because of it's age and of course who I got it from. I'll have to look and see...
chevy302dz
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I don't think I've seen anything from Lisle made overseas, however KD is starting to offshore a lot of their newer tools.dink said:
Uncle Buck
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I do not believe that JH Williams stuff is made across the water, nor do I think most Lisle stuff is.
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kartracer55 said:
It is a little JH Williams set. Made in USA. I have no idea if JHW makes anything overseas.
I couldn't remember if it was Williams or William, and when I Googled 'William', I got an Asian tool crew. So there you go...I am guilty of perpetuating misinformation on the internet! OOPS! Sorry!
I did notice that they are now a Snap-On company. When did that happen?
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MarkH said:
The Diamond name is being used on files for Costco. Last year, KD tools (Gearwrench and others) was merged under Armstrong tools (also a Dahaner company). Challenger and Easco became parts of Dahaner, long ago. New Britian tools (original makers of Husky and early Craftsman ratchets) became part of Stanley, in a round about way. There is a set of Craftsman pliers, that are made in China, as well as some of their power tools. Craftsman Canada, is another entity. Most of the ones I have seen are made by Stanley, offshore. SK was a Facom company until recently, when Stanley toolworks bought out Facom. They seperated previous to the purchase being finalized.
Xcelite, is part of Cooper tools.
Wizard tools, Indestro, Durochrome, Powerkraft, Truecraft, and Kraeuter are all lifetime warrantied, that are out of business. Although, some of my fathers Kraeuters make me think that Utica may have bought their forgings from them.
Penncraft still has a valid warranty through JCPenny's, even though no longer sold.
AMT is no longer (woodworking tools, supplier of Sears)
AMF became Dewalt and early models of Craftsman radial arm saws. Dewalt sold it off to original saw.
Lowe's Kobalt line, used to be made by JH Williams, now made by Dahaner.
Fuji Pneumatic was recently purchased by Chicago Pneumatic.
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KD wasnt so much merged with armstrong, Their lines are distinctly different, but your right, they are osld form the same site. I belive challenger was a Stanley name, and Easco became allen, under danaher.
The craftsman pliers are the mini stainless ones, I know it *****, but they are good quality, My dad has a set of them.
Right before Stanley bought FACOM, the SK execs bought the company back from FACOM so they are independant,but I have stuff form Blackhawk and PRoto and no complaints, its good stuff.
AS for the Kobalt line,
The craftsman pliers are the mini stainless ones, I know it *****, but they are good quality, My dad has a set of them.
Right before Stanley bought FACOM, the SK execs bought the company back from FACOM so they are independant,but I have stuff form Blackhawk and PRoto and no complaints, its good stuff.
AS for the Kobalt line,
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Diamond Tool & Horseshoe Co.
Diamond went out of business years and years ago.
Cooper did pick up the name, but the tools are nothing what they used to be.
We ended up buying the remainder of the Diamond Inventory.
As far as I know we're the only one's in the world that are still selling it.
Same with bonney.
The good part is that we get the tools cheap.
The bad part is that it's because american tool companies are closing and moving to china.
www.harryepstein.com/diamond.html
www.harryepstein.com/bonney.html
Diamond went out of business years and years ago.
Cooper did pick up the name, but the tools are nothing what they used to be.
We ended up buying the remainder of the Diamond Inventory.
As far as I know we're the only one's in the world that are still selling it.
Same with bonney.
The good part is that we get the tools cheap.
The bad part is that it's because american tool companies are closing and moving to china.
www.harryepstein.com/diamond.html
www.harryepstein.com/bonney.html
gdf_77
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a friend of mine bought a craftsman wrench set from a garage sale and it had made in japan stamped on it