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Toolbox Questions
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Well shoot, guess I missed the original post before you edited... That could have been fun!
jeepinerdeep
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Well shoot, guess I missed the original post before you edited... That could have been fun!
Naw- I was mostly pointing out not to overlook used Macsimizers if you couldn't find a KRL. Macsimizers are freaking tanks, and often well priced in the used market. High bang for buck ratio. If I had to grab a traditional box to head back on the truck dealer floor that would be it. Not a thing wrong with KRL
Thanks, makes sense! But really even just a general search of "toolbox" wasn't showing up with much around this area and I was considering MAC boxes as well even though I have never seen a MAC truck running around this area. This is not my forever toolbox, I can almost guarantee I'll outgrow it and have to resell it or trade it in to SnapOn at some point but hopefully not for a couple years.
Lookin4'67Galaxieconv
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You're not going to tell us how you did on the deal?
Kirk T
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mikester
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FYI, 10 or 12 years ago Mac, Proto, Beach, and the original red Husky boxes were all made in the same plant in Smith Falls Ontario. I found this out when I wanted to purchase a second side box for the 41" Husky set that I have. I got that info from Stanley Tool.
Of course they were all different quality from brand to brand.
Of course they were all different quality from brand to brand.
I’ve seen a few of the Extreme Tools and Tool Vault boxes showing up in the dealerships. The guys who have them formerly had Snap On or other truck boxes, they boast about the quality for the price on these non truck brands. I would have a Tool Vault box today if I hadn’t walked into major suckage on some Lista stationary boxes last summer.
Dentaltec
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https://www.strictlytoolboxes.com/all-toolboxes/tool-boxes-by-size/all-72-inch-toolboxes.html
Really great stuff, super thrilled with my boxes
Really great stuff, super thrilled with my boxes
Well, I disappointed this morning once he got it off the truck to find out on the sticker on the back that it is actually a KRA2422 rather than the KRL722 I was originally told it was. Since it's not going to be constantly moved around the shop and I'll be trading it back in for a larger box in about a year I decided it wasn't a complete deal breaker. Got him down to $3500 for it. Being that it has the stainless top the list price on it was $6500, so it doesn't seem to be too bad of a deal.
Not good ending up with a kra .
For a years use a 56" HF would last, I used one of those on a old airfield site and lugged it around on a forklift for 10 months (extra frame & fork guides welded up for it)
If you told it a krl722 and it ain't get your money back or at least 600 of it .
For a years use a 56" HF would last, I used one of those on a old airfield site and lugged it around on a forklift for 10 months (extra frame & fork guides welded up for it)
If you told it a krl722 and it ain't get your money back or at least 600 of it .
Lookin4'67Galaxieconv
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Big BIG difference between those boxes. I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
Greg85mcss
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You can sometimes find a used macsimizer for a good price. I checked one out and it was a tank. Probably the most solid box I've ever seen. At least on par with a krl or matco 6s. I still kick myself for not bringing cash.
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Big BIG difference between those boxes. I wouldn't trust that guy as far as I could throw him.
He is a good guy, it was just a mistake on both of our parts. Me being a greenhorn in the toolbox hunting game, and him being so busy at the time he wasn't able to look into it at the time. It was his assistant that dropped it off today and I got a phone call from him an hour after the assistant left and was able to get another $500 off of the price. I'm in $3500 on a box that has a list price of a bit over $6500. Definitely not going to lose any sleep over it.
And now that I realize I severely underestimated the size of box that I needed I'll be trading it back in six months to a year from now so I shouldn't end up taking any kind of a hit on the trade in as he mentioned. KRA boxes don't sell so well in the used market, but as a trade in with the dealer on an upgrade it will be just fine.
Greg85mcss
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I didn't read all the way through before my last post. Hopefully you can get your money back on the trade in. A guy I worked with got a great deal on a 722 repo that had never been touched. Maybe your dealer will think of you if something like that comes up.
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Not great start for first box but hopefully you be less impulsive and make better upgrade choice .
First box is always best used or cheaper box if only expecting like 1yr from it, used truck always the best as loose little to no value .
Personally I prefer 2 2bay boxes over 1 big 3bay and it cheaper way increase storage.
I never bother with KRA as not that special like KRL and indeed not such resale value.
Hope you enjoy the box and get a proper deal on any upgrade, List prices are always 30 to 45% more than more normal actual sale price ...
First box is always best used or cheaper box if only expecting like 1yr from it, used truck always the best as loose little to no value .
Personally I prefer 2 2bay boxes over 1 big 3bay and it cheaper way increase storage.
I never bother with KRA as not that special like KRL and indeed not such resale value.
Hope you enjoy the box and get a proper deal on any upgrade, List prices are always 30 to 45% more than more normal actual sale price ...
giants
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Hi, All, I'm new to this forum and this is my first comment.
What's the difference between the KRA that makes it less desirable and has a lower price?
For someone like me who is just beginning to get into tool chests, should I start off with a KRA so that I can grow into it?
Thanks!
What's the difference between the KRA that makes it less desirable and has a lower price?
For someone like me who is just beginning to get into tool chests, should I start off with a KRA so that I can grow into it?
Thanks!
plinker
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Main reason is the imported boxes such as Masterforce/HF/Husky/ete.. are very close (or the same) to the overall quality of a KRA box, particularly since they are making them 22-24" deep now. They can be overpriced, but it depends on your market (used market can net a good price). They are good boxes just make sure you get your moneys worth.
I'm in the camp of buy better tools and dont spend a lot on a box starting out, but if a KRA (used/like new) was priced for a few hundred more then a new import box, I get the KRA (mainly for long term product support).
giants
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Thanks.
I saw a couple references of GJ, but couldn't find the original,where an engineer measuring HF and other brands and concluding that HF had greate thickness, making them superior cost:quality. However, I'm also wondering about the steel quality?
Do you know what grade/type of steel the KRAs used?
I saw a couple references of GJ, but couldn't find the original,where an engineer measuring HF and other brands and concluding that HF had greate thickness, making them superior cost:quality. However, I'm also wondering about the steel quality?
Do you know what grade/type of steel the KRAs used?
archirelic
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Seems like an expensive mistake and the fact that you'll wind up just using it for up to a year reinforces that.
WittHay
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I'm not sure I follow this logic, because I can trade it back to my dealer and not lose money on it and upgrade to a larger box. If I sold it private party I would certainly lose money on it, but that isn't the plan.
I'm not sure I follow this logic, because I can trade it back to my dealer and not lose money on it and upgrade to a larger box. If I sold it private party I would certainly lose money on it, but that isn't the plan.
If I ordered an F-250 and the dealer brought me an F-150 instead I wouldn’t accept it. I ordered an F-250 because I need an F-250’s capacity, I’m not going to trade in the F-150 in a year and upgrade to the F-250 then. Make sense?
You didn’t get what you ordered but accepted it anyway with plans to trade up in a year. I wouldn’t want the hassle of moving everything around in another year to get what I wanted and was willing to pay for in the first place. You’re assuming that that dealer will still be employed and on the same route in a year allowing a loss free trade in, I would want the loss free trade in part in writing at a minimum.
Greg85mcss
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The krl drawer slides hold about double the capacity. The 722 and 7022 are a little taller. The 1022 is the 7022 with an extra row of drawers. I don't know if there's a difference in the metal used. For most people a kra would probably be fine but I wouldn't get one new. From what I've seen you can find one for about 1500 if you're patient but they go quick. I have seen a few krl722s listed at 1700 and older krl1002s for 1000-1500. Mac tech 1000 and matco 4s usually go for significantly less. Prices vary a lot by area and the valve brands are really stepping up. A $700 harbor freight, masterforce, international or whatever makes sense when you figure you'll probably lose more than that on resale of a new truck box.
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I didn't order it. It was one that was in current use for tool storage and promotion on the SnapOn truck. I looked at it while it was on the truck originally, but couldn't see the data tag due to it being tied back against the wall of the truck. Me being new to the differences between SnapOn boxes assumed since it had the stainless top and had the same drawer configuration of the 722's I had been looking at online previously that it was in fact a KRL.
I don't feel like I got burned, and I'm not beating myself up one bit about it. Either way had it been the KRL rather than the KRA since they are the same size I would be in the exact same situation I find myself in now. I underestimated the size of box I needed significantly for the amount of tools I need to store and lock up in there. Did not have my tools in a traditional box previously as they have been in my utility body truck. Moving them to the box was when I realized the size issue.
Still not a big deal, I'll get by with the tools in this configuration until moving some of them back onto my service truck in May. Then next October/November once I need to get them out of the truck again I'll reassess storage needs.
Lookin4'67Galaxieconv
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Sean, as long as you're good with it, that's all that matters. Maybe you'll be in the market for a box like Kirk's next year.
If it isn't big enough now, can you call him up and move into a bigger box right off the bat? Maybe since it was just yesterday he can cancel the 2422 deal and get you into a proper sized box? I don't know your finances but I think I'd at least ask.
Likely it wouldn't be an issue at all to do that. But I only put $1000 down on this one with the rest financed through the truck with no interest. Being that it will only be housing my tools for a few months before a good portion of them are moved back onto my service truck for the summer I was thinking it would be better to pay off the majority of this one before doing a trade.
But I do have a couple other tools on order, so when they come in I'll talk to my dealer and let him know if he comes across a used box in the size range that I need between now and November I'll jump on it.
Wrecker93
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For anyone else reading through here for advice on boxes. Two pieces of advice.
1. Check out Harbor Freight, their new boxes are over built even compared to just a couple of years ago. They now have to because of Import Trade Agreement. This is why they are deeper and made with heavier gauge steel. I bought one myself as a mechanic and have seen more and more of them in other shops.
2. Check out Rockin' Toolboxes. They sell Extreme Toolboxes, but they also have a Scratch and Dent Facebook page. Guy there is really helpful. If you let him know what you're looking for he'll let you know when something comes in. Some stuff has a small dent others a big puncture from a forklift. They are based out of Chicago area I believe.
1. Check out Harbor Freight, their new boxes are over built even compared to just a couple of years ago. They now have to because of Import Trade Agreement. This is why they are deeper and made with heavier gauge steel. I bought one myself as a mechanic and have seen more and more of them in other shops.
2. Check out Rockin' Toolboxes. They sell Extreme Toolboxes, but they also have a Scratch and Dent Facebook page. Guy there is really helpful. If you let him know what you're looking for he'll let you know when something comes in. Some stuff has a small dent others a big puncture from a forklift. They are based out of Chicago area I believe.
jackman 65
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are you seeking an opinion or looking to by used or new? I am located in SC with a good condition snap on KR660B 16 draw with new paint, reply Jackman 65