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matthewbynum

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i kow snap on takes trade in but will they take any brand box or just the big name brands i have a kobal and craftsman and wold love to trade the in on a snap on i k now it wont pay for the whole thing but every littel bit helps
 
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My first Craftsman box was a trade in on the Snap On truck but then again, that was in 1986 and each dealer is different.
 

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Depends on the dealer. Can't hurt to ask.

Dealers will vary and it depends on the condition of the box and if they think they have a market for it. Most will do something but they won't give much even though they show it as a lot on paper. I think you would do better to negotiate the best price you can, pay cash if you can, and sell the boxes to a coworker just getting started or on CL. Dealers can't give more then wholesale used price regardless of what they show on paper or tell you. If you can't pay cash, just negotiate the best price you can and turn down his offers for a while. When he gets as low as you think he can then buy. And most dealers are going to have a lot more room to play on boxes they have in stock vs ordering one special for you.
 

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A lot of times they'll run a special where no matter what the box, they'll give you a certain dollar amount towards a new box. Years ago I got $400 for a craftsman carry along box.
 

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A lot of times they'll run a special where no matter what the box, they'll give you a certain dollar amount towards a new box. Years ago I got $400 for a craftsman carry along box.


That is nothing but a sales promotion. You could get the same price trading in a shoe box. :lol_hitti
 

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Its a game...they get there money one way or another. Sell your boxes on Cl and buy your new box on Cl...thats how you get a truly good deal.
 
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matthewbynum

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thanks for the help the box i have at work is starting to crack in the corners its the second one of this brand first they tok back but was a big hassle so i figured i would jst get a good one and be done with it. i dont expect a lot in trade in value but ya know evry little bit helps
 

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thanks for the help the box i have at work is starting to crack in the corners its the second one of this brand first they tok back but was a big hassle so i figured i would jst get a good one and be done with it. i dont expect a lot in trade in value but ya know evry little bit helps

Who's going to want to buy a toolbox that, by your own admission, is basically ruined? You probably overloaded it, or expected to get professional use out of a homeowner box. Once you find a new box, get what you can on CL for the old one. Just don't expect much if it's cracking up.

The best bet, is to save up a few thousand dollars, and buy a used Snap-on KRL series box on CL. I'd decide what style you like and then go hunting on every CL within 3 states. This will save you thousands in the long run. As an example, a 29" deep KRL triple bank in near new condition will cost you $3,500 to $4,000. Price that same box on a tool truck; used it will be double that, new it will be close to triple. A tool truck will finance a box for you, but if you can save your money and pay cash, you can save quite a bit.
 
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the question i have about used boxes & snap on:

how do I get a used snap on box (or traded snap on box) from a snap on dealer without having a dealer/being a tech?
 
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the question i have about used boxes & snap on:

how do I get a used snap on box (or traded snap on box) from a snap on dealer without having a dealer/being a tech?

While going to a dealer is certainly an option, there are plenty on Craig's List. A dealer's prices are likely to be considerably higher due to the fact that they will finance a box and deliver it to you. And they add an extra layer of cost to make them a profit. You will pay FULL used retail from a dealer.

As far as finding a dealer, just call Snap-on customer service, they will tell you the name and number of the dealer who services your area. Whether, as a private hobbyist, you can talk the dealer to putting you on his route is between you and the dealer...but I wouldn't be surprised if a dealer has little interest in a private party, (unless you have a very big checkbook). But you might work out an arrangement to meet at an existing stop. After doing this type of thing for a while, I gave up, and just started buying from their web site. I don't have the time in my life to wait at someone's shop for the Snap-on guy to show up, and not always on time, and occasionally not at all.
 

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While going to a dealer is certainly an option, there are plenty on Craig's List. A dealer's prices are likely to be considerably higher due to the fact that they will finance a box and deliver it to you. And they add an extra layer of cost to make them a profit. You will pay FULL used retail from a dealer.

As far as finding a dealer, just call Snap-on customer service, they will tell you the name and number of the dealer who services your area. Whether, as a private hobbyist, you can talk the dealer to putting you on his route is between you and the dealer...but I wouldn't be surprised if a dealer has little interest in a private party, (unless you have a very big checkbook). But you might work out an arrangement to meet at an existing stop. After doing this type of thing for a while, I gave up, and just started buying from their web site. I don't have the time in my life to wait at someone's shop for the Snap-on guy to show up, and not always on time, and occasionally not at all.


there's actually comparatively few snap on or matco boxes for sale on craigslist in my area, and those that are, are well beyond what I would consider to be fairly priced (used SO boxes for 90% of retail around here)

I'd also think the SO dealer would be a better source for boxes that are definitely no longer financed, which is definitely not a guarantee on CL.
 

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there's actually comparatively few snap on or matco boxes for sale on craigslist in my area, and those that are, are well beyond what I would consider to be fairly priced (used SO boxes for 90% of retail around here)

I'd also think the SO dealer would be a better source for boxes that are definitely no longer financed, which is definitely not a guarantee on CL.

I buy used tool collections (and toolboxes) fairly regulary. I guess every area is different, but I would expand my search if I were you. To me, renting a U-Haul trailer and driving three hours to buy a $4,000 toolbox IS worth the trouble. I have bought toolboxes in NY,NJ,CT,PA,MA, and VT. You could try "SearchTempest", but I find looking at each area's individual CL to yeild better results; sometimes the listing titles don't pick up everything you search for. I look at EVERY tool listing, day after day. When the right deal comes up, you need to move quickly.

Another thing is that just because someone is asking a certain (crazy) price, does not mean you can't talk them into a proper price. Sometimes just showing them the "completed listings" on eBay is enough of a reality check. Sometimes I find someone selling a box or collection I want, but they are not ready to come down to my price. I keep in touch, and have had success buying boxes and collections at great prices. Sometime the folks have abandoned hope of selling. Sometimes I recognize a box that I saw for sale a year earlier, and just know the seller must be ready to deal.

Speaking of eBay, there are lots of nice boxes on there as well. There are a few sellers who will ship boxes as well. One in particular always has a large inventory of nice boxes on hand, AND will ship. That particular seller is at the top of the used market price wise...but that's still only about 40-50% of new cost. I typically pay closer to 20%.
 

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Speaking of eBay, there are lots of nice boxes on there as well. There are a few sellers who will ship boxes as well. One in particular always has a large inventory of nice boxes on hand, AND will ship. That particular seller is at the top of the used market price wise...but that's still only about 40-50% of new cost. I typically pay closer to 20%.

I'm assuming you're talking about the ebay seller 1ststatetools. He's actually a member here.

http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/member.php?u=71600

I always wonder how much he's willing to negotiate on prices... I actually need another locker for my tool box. One locker wasnt enough. :(

Dan
 

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I buy used tool collections (and toolboxes) fairly regulary. I guess every area is different, but I would expand my search if I were you. To me, renting a U-Haul trailer and driving three hours to buy a $4,000 toolbox IS worth the trouble. I have bought toolboxes in NY,NJ,CT,PA,MA, and VT. You could try "SearchTempest", but I find looking at each area's individual CL to yeild better results; sometimes the listing titles don't pick up everything you search for. I look at EVERY tool listing, day after day. When the right deal comes up, you need to move quickly.

Another thing is that just because someone is asking a certain (crazy) price, does not mean you can't talk them into a proper price. Sometimes just showing them the "completed listings" on eBay is enough of a reality check. Sometimes I find someone selling a box or collection I want, but they are not ready to come down to my price. I keep in touch, and have had success buying boxes and collections at great prices. Sometime the folks have abandoned hope of selling. Sometimes I recognize a box that I saw for sale a year earlier, and just know the seller must be ready to deal.

Speaking of eBay, there are lots of nice boxes on there as well. There are a few sellers who will ship boxes as well. One in particular always has a large inventory of nice boxes on hand, AND will ship. That particular seller is at the top of the used market price wise...but that's still only about 40-50% of new cost. I typically pay closer to 20%.

I know the New England area has a much higher number of people looking to make ends meet and thus sell things for a much lower amount than the new costs. but living in the part of the country with the lowest unemployment, the largest number of high profile service type places, and very few mom & pop type shops in general, there's not a whole lot of turnover in the market on this sort of stuff. particularly on craigslist.

driving 3+ hours one way to me doesn't make sense for a $3-4K tool box, particularly empty. it'd be one thing if the box was full or partially full for that sort of time & money, but most of the local ones are empty. the other issue I run into, are that most of the folks in this area are... 'flashy'? being a polite way, so there's a whole lot of chromed out, bright green or yellow or flamed out boxes.

I'm thinking a dealer services a lot more potential service places, and as such, might have a larger potential for standard boxes being traded or turned over.

here's some 'shining' examples in my local area:

KRA2411? more than a few months old based on badge placement at 80% of retail
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/tls/2804803397.html

KRA2418 this one I think is actually almost a deal at 52% of retail, only it's way more box than my garage can fit
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/mld/tls/2782259045.html

KERP763? tough to tell with the grainy picture, but something along that line with the tall cab, still, with my guesses, around 55% of retail, and more than I need or can fit
http://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/tls/2797000318.html


That's pretty much what most of the adds in my area look like until you get to PA, at which point you're talking spending a day to go get a tool box.
 

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I know the New England area has a much higher number of people looking to make ends meet and thus sell things for a much lower amount than the new costs. but living in the part of the country with the lowest unemployment, the largest number of high profile service type places, and very few mom & pop type shops in general, there's not a whole lot of turnover in the market on this sort of stuff. particularly on craigslist.

driving 3+ hours one way to me doesn't make sense for a $3-4K tool box, particularly empty. .

I still maintain that you should expand your search. When I say $3-4K for a toolbox...I'm talking about a $13,500 toolbox for $3-4K. And if you make so much money that it's not worth it to spend 6 hours to save several thousand, you should just buy new...you can afford it. By my calculation, to save $3,500 by driving 6 hours....you have to be make MORE than $1.2 million per year for this to not be worth your time. I'm talking about paying 20-25% of list instead of 50-60%. A top quality toolbox can last a lifetime, so it's not like you will need to do this a lot.

And while there are some very successful and booming areas of Virginia and Maryland (and especially in DC), the further you go from Washington, the more the economy ***** just like everywhere else. There HAS to be turnover. People die, become disabled, retire, move away, get promoted to service writer, change professions, etc.

And there are plenty of boxes that come full of tools as well. When I'm in the hunt for tools and boxes, I check 27 seperate CL's several times each day.
 

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Get the dealers cell number, then tell him what is needed and find out if he will come by with your order or meet somwhere.
 
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Who's going to want to buy a toolbox that, by your own admission, is basically ruined? You probably overloaded it, or expected to get professional use out of a homeowner box. Once you find a new box, get what you can on CL for the old one. Just don't expect much if it's cracking up.

The best bet, is to save up a few thousand dollars, and buy a used Snap-on KRL series box on CL. I'd decide what style you like and then go hunting on every CL within 3 states. This will save you thousands in the long run. As an example, a 29" deep KRL triple bank in near new condition will cost you $3,500 to $4,000. Price that same box on a tool truck; used it will be double that, new it will be close to triple. A tool truck will finance a box for you, but if you can save your money and pay cash, you can save quite a bit.

the box i have at work is not the same ones im talking about trading and you are right it is overloaded and takes a beating but at the time i got itthat all i ould afford
 

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the box i have at work is not the same ones im talking about trading and you are right it is overloaded and takes a beating but at the time i got itthat all i ould afford

A fancy toolbox should certainly not be your priority when starting out, it's better to spend money on tools that you need to get the job done. But at a certain point, a profession quality toolbox becomes a necessity. Especially when your tool collection grows to a point when it won't fit in anything else. Just try to avoid going into debt to buy one.
 

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I still maintain that you should expand your search. When I say $3-4K for a toolbox...I'm talking about a $13,500 toolbox for $3-4K. And if you make so much money that it's not worth it to spend 6 hours to save several thousand, you should just buy new...you can afford it. By my calculation, to save $3,500 by driving 6 hours....you have to be make MORE than $1.2 million per year for this to not be worth your time. I'm talking about paying 20-25% of list instead of 50-60%. A top quality toolbox can last a lifetime, so it's not like you will need to do this a lot.

And while there are some very successful and booming areas of Virginia and Maryland (and especially in DC), the further you go from Washington, the more the economy ***** just like everywhere else. There HAS to be turnover. People die, become disabled, retire, move away, get promoted to service writer, change professions, etc.

And there are plenty of boxes that come full of tools as well. When I'm in the hunt for tools and boxes, I check 27 seperate CL's several times each day.


Since you obviously don't know me from your foot, you can have no idea of what my financial or personal position might be.

Please take a long look at the three examples I posted. notice the short little descriptions I give to the boxes I list. either they're 80% of the retail cost, or they're 50% and significantly larger than I need.

I have no qualms about spending several thousand dollars on a box, but obviously since I'm not looking to buy a large box, saving $3500 isn't a realistic number. Doing simple math, based on what I value my time at, added cost for operating a vehicle large enough to go get a tool box, you'd have to be talking about saving more than $2500 on a box, which given the size I'm looking at, I find to be a far from practical concept. Also to note, is there are very few of the size boxes I'm looking for on craigslist.

I'm looking for a KRA2411/KRLX022B sized box with at most a side cab. Not some 100"+ wide monster, I'm also not looking for something that's been chromed out or some flashy color. blue, black, red.... something basic and not screaming 'look at me!'. There's been at most 3 examples of what I'm looking for on the 3 local craigslist sites I look at, and all are asking $3000-4000 for an originally $4300 box or 70-90% of retail. Using your 20% concept, I'd have to be spending less than $1000 on the box that I want. I think a realistic cost is closer to $2000.

Having a full time job and 3 small kids at home, my time is both spoken for, and extremely valuable to me, as such, I don't have time to browse through 27+ different craiglist sites, or drive 6+ hours to get a tool box.

Yes, there's turnover, but public demostration of it is much lower in an area that's not as economically depressed as an area that is. Joe Schmo changes professions and thinks 'maybe I'll hang onto that tool box for a while, you never know what might happen' instead of 'Oh ****, I've changed jobs and need money to make ends meet, let's sell that sucker quick!'.

My thought is: SO Dealer gets occassional trade ins for bigger boxes, and then sells said trade ins, he's likely to get smaller boxes, and he's not looking to hold onto them for longer than is necessary, thus willing to sell them at the 50% of retail range that I feel a used box is worth. He's also likely to do his homework before taking a trade to confirm if a SO box is being financed, paid for or what it's status is. Joe Schmo selling toolbox is not necessarily going to be 100% honest about that position, especially if he's cash strapped and just looking to get money quick, and doesn't care about long term consequences of credit damage. I'd rather rest assured that box is paid for by previous owner, so that in the even something were to go wrong with it, SO or whoever's warranty would still be valid and useable. Not 'oh box was never paid for by original buyer, you're SOL, we're taking our property back'.

just a little FYI about making generalizations about people. before making claims about any sort of understanding of another person's situation, you need all of the facts.
 

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cderalow;

Well there is a big diference in the two boxes you list. The KRL is considerably more expensive. So maybe I was a bit off in terms of some order of magnitude, but the principal still stands. You can find that Classic series box for $1,200-$1,500 or so on Craigs List, and the KRL for $1,500-2,500. I have never had one of the Classic 78s, but I've sold several of the 29" deep KRL double banks for between $1,500 and $2,500 depending on condition and whether they had a SS top. I once bought a KRL double bank with SS top for $2,500 filled with Snap on tools. Don't be afraid to make a proper offer for an overpriced box if you find the model you want.

But I would bet that under normal circumstances, a dealer would charge you double that price for a clean used box. But sometimes a dealer gets backed up and will want to unload stuff cheap, and you could get a bargain, so you never really know. If the math of paying double to have a box delivered to your door works for you, have at it.

Just as an example of tool truck math, I bought a very nice blue Macsimizer double bank with top box for $2,000 off CL. Box was mint but filthy. Afer a days labor by my son, we sold the now shiny box to a friend for $2,800. We were both pretty happy with the deal. That was a fair CL price for that MAC combo. His Snap-on dealer sees the box and gives him $5,600 on a trade in for a brand new monster Epic that he's stuck with, and gives him close to 50% off list for the Epiq. Apparantly another customer special ordered the Epiq, and backed out. The dealer turned around and sold the MAC combo to another customer for a lot more than the $5,600.

I'm not trying to tell you how to live your life, but I've bought and sold a LOT of toolboxes. I'm just trying to share this experience in an effort to help out a fellow GJ member. With a little patience, the deals are out there.
 

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i kow snap on takes trade in but will they take any brand box or just the big name brands i have a kobal and craftsman and wold love to trade the in on a snap on i k now it wont pay for the whole thing but every littel bit helps

I will take any trade in you have..... i took two harbor greight boxes and two craftsman towards a kra2418pcm with a riser on top... then i have 4 young techs get boxes that next week that could not afford a new one...
 
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