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83GTMike

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Hello,

I'm going to be in London, England for a little while and was wondering if anyone knows of any neat tool stores to check out. Wouldn't mind traveling to a different city, either.

Something along the lines of a Harry J. Epstein. Not really interested in homeowner or power-tool DIY stores. I work as a mechanic during my summers so more like European mechanic grade tools.

Thanks guys,
Mike
 
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If you can be bothered to make the journey then check out Primetools in Radstock. One of the best online tool retailers in the UK imo and im sure they have a store at their premises, havent been there myself however;

https://primetools.co.uk
 

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The short answer, sadly, is no!

40 years ago, any number, 20 years ago, a few, but at the present time you can not afford to pay London rents and rates from the margins you make selling tools!

It's sad, and you might conclude that landlords and local authorities are too greedy (I wouldn't argue) but that's the way it is!
 

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The short answer, sadly, is no!

40 years ago, any number, 20 years ago, a few, but at the present time you can not afford to pay London rents and rates from the margins you make selling tools!

It's sad, and you might conclude that landlords and local authorities are too greedy (I wouldn't argue) but that's the way it is!

Where do the companies in London buy their tools ?
 

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Where do the companies in London buy their tools ?

Almost all of it comes from specialists, delivered by a van direct from a warehouse!

Two generations ago, my Grandfather (a Londoner) had an account at a local tool shop, and about 90 percent of what he wanted came from there. They had huge stocks of everything from hand tools to engineers consumables - drills, taps, dies, milling cutters, the lot. As a 'trade' customer you got a discount and got most of your stuff there. Kind of what you would expect!

One generation ago, most of the London shops had vanished. You still had good tool shops in all the other towns, big or small, but none really survived in London. Firstly because of the rent and rates, and secondly because most of the manufacturing was moving away from London anyway. I think Buck and Ryan in Tottenham Court Road was the last to go, but the customer profile had shifted and you wouldn't get milling cutters there towards the end.

Now, even a lot of the provincial tool shops have gone. Those shops were usually in High Streets, but they've been replaced by cheaper premises on industrial estates. I live now in a relatively rural area. I can get some tools, fixings such as nuts, bolts and screws, engineers supplies such as drills taps and dies, and even materials, within about 5 miles, but... they all come from different specialists. Manufacturers buy from those specialists too, and probably have a van delivering!

You also have to remember that London was never the manufacturing capital of the country. Centuries ago, the City Livery Companies made life so difficult for new starters that manufacturing flourished elsewhere (Birmingham for example) but not really London. Most of the manufacturing that was there was in 'new' industries, but even most of that has moved further away now.

A couple of weeks ago I was in a local engineers (turning specialist). Only a small firm but they had vending machines full of drill bits, tool inserts and everything. Whenever somebody wanted something they swiped a card with the job number and the machine dispensed the item. When the machine runs low a guy appears from the supplier and tops it up!
 
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On my first trip back in 97 , my brother-in-law explained about the rents being so high and space was very dear, (hence lack of tool stores). during that same time period my other brother-in-law parked his car at the meter and it cost about ten pounds per hour; you never saw two men run as fast as we did looking for a tool store.

Surprised me about the lack of any good tool stores at that time and date.
 

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London is not a reasonable place to live...Tool stores are nonexistent, but they do sell a lot of knives...The main problem with that, is that they're sticking them in people, instead of slicing a roast...
 

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On my first trip back in 97 , my brother-in-law explained about the rents being so high and space was very dear, (hence lack of tool stores). during that same time period my other brother-in-law parked his car at the meter and it cost about ten pounds per hour; you never saw two men run as fast as we did looking for a tool store.

Surprised me about the lack of any good tool stores at that time and date.

If you're parking there for any length of time, getting a parking fine can work out cheaper than paying the parking charges. :D
 
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Interesting notes about London guys, thank you for sharing. Lots of cafes and gambling establishments, not so much in the way of tools!

I have some family in East Sussex that I can go and see anytime. I've been told a "boot fair" is where I should go if I want to find some neat, old tools. Last one on Easter Monday was rained out, so I'll have to go back to attend one.
 
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I have some family in East Sussex that I can go and see anytime. I've been told a "boot fair" is where I should go if I want to find some neat, old tools. Last one on Easter Monday was rained out, so I'll have to go back to attend one.

Small world - East Sussex is where I am! Boot fairs can be a bit 'hit or miss' sometimes some bargains, sometimes just traders selling shite! There are probably better things to do in the county!

My advice, decide what you want and have it shipped to your family to collect.
I can tell you the sort of things that U.S. based friends of mine have bought in the past if it helps, though it's not always tools that are the greatest deals it seems! Don't just think British tools, German and Swiss stuff is a fraction of the price here that it is in the U.S.

Better still P.M. me - if you're staying locally, and I'm about, I'll buy you a beer and show you where you can get some tools locally - you won't believe what you see!
 
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Is there a Facom van that goes around to repair shops?

The local coachworks has trucks from Snap On, Mac, Independent, Consumables, Garage Equipment and 3 different parts suppliers calling.

MAC man sells Facom, or rather tries to, but the stuff is more expensive than you can buy it for online so nobody buys it from him!

Ironically, most of the guys in the shop buy German or Japanese tools. I see far more Stahlwille and KoKen around now than I used to.
 
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As others have said the specialist tool store have mostly long gone. Been buying tools for 50 years and remember Buck and Ryans on the Tottenham Court Rd. There use to be three large tool shops in Shoreditch that catered to what was the furniture making centre of London, only one left now and most of their that beat the prices from the tool trucks trade is to builders. Two large tool shops near me in East London, most of their stock is power tools for builders. Number of specialist shops outside london mostly selling by mail order although I don't know one that specialises in mechanics tools.. If I need anything like that I look on Ebay, there are a number of sellers whose prices beat the tool trucks.
 

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Funny story during that time so long ago my sister-in-law took me to a car boot sale, having never seen one I was amazed at the whole process of selling ones wares. Darn if I did not find quality drills out the ying yang at cheap prices, but my jaw dropped down several inches when I found out every one of them had a plug in with a monster 240 volt plug set up for a dryer type set up. Seems everything over there is set up for 240 volt and not the 140 in the states.

OP if you do get the chance do indeed visit one of those car boot sales just looking around is worth it.
 

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Funny story during that time so long ago my sister-in-law took me to a car boot sale, having never seen one I was amazed at the whole process of selling ones wares. Darn if I did not find quality drills out the ying yang at cheap prices, but my jaw dropped down several inches when I found out every one of them had a plug in with a monster 240 volt plug set up for a dryer type set up. Seems everything over there is set up for 240 volt and not the 140 in the states.

OP if you do get the chance do indeed visit one of those car boot sales just looking around is worth it.

The only time we generally use 110V gear is on sites, via isolation transformers. Domestic supplies are 240V. Our 3 phase system is around 415V, if I recall correctly.
 

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Been buying tools for 50 years and remember Buck and Ryans on the Tottenham Court Rd. .

I can remember walking down Tottenham Court Road with my Dad in the 70's! It seemed that just about every other shop was selling government surplus. Tools, Electrical components, hardware, it was all there. Even then a lot of it was 'war surplus'!

Buck and Ryan used to be the end of the trail, and quite a treat for the enthusiast. It wasn't so much the amount of stock they had, but the variety, and the quality. They'd been there for years and seemed to have everything.

I remember that when you walked through the door and turned right they had penknives on display (mostly Sheffield made, and mostly still decent, though nothing like the heyday). The centrepiece of the display was a massive exhibition knife with many hundreds of blades. I thought for years it must have been the Rogers 'year knife' but I saw that subsequently and it was totally different. I often wondered what I saw there, and where it is now!
 

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London is not a reasonable place to live...Tool stores are nonexistent, but they do sell a lot of knives...The main problem with that, is that they're sticking them in people, instead of slicing a roast...

You beat me to it....First thing to come to mind when I saw the thread title. Yes, there are a lot of ‘tools’ running around with ‘tools’ (knives), unfortunately doing the wrong thing with them.
 
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