Tools from the old world

[BJ42LX]

West Germany is pre=Berlin Wall (1984).

May 1949 - October 3, 1990:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany

 

[flyingkite]

I think the price for the Hazet 166n is too much.

The problem to deliver to your contry is not the time - the shipping cost are one of the part that make HAZET tools expansive in the USA.

However, for all questions about HAZET tools i have an answer....

heisse-nuesse,

Do you have any relation to this site?

http://www.heisse-nuesse.de

 

[Jeff]

May 1949 - October 3, 1990:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/West_Germany

I was off by a few years.

Damn, 1990 seems too recent.

 

[Monte]

Wait a minute...theres something not right about that. Does that say made in China? I would get that for my nephew but he prefers my 18V cordless.

yes you´re right

Why do Bosch power tools always look like toys to me? Is it the colors? Is it the plastics they use? I just can't put my finger on it . . .

Because they are toys

hi, justa wet meself seein the fotos......u must be a connoiseur or guru of sorts?.

Any thing on.....dowdat or rothenberger? I think rothenberger is the ancester to ....emerson electrics,.ridgid tools am i correct in that line of thinking?

Cheers jj

ahhhh old pics

yeah connoiseur, guru, tool monk...

Rothenberger is a different company than Emerson/Ridgid. Rothenberger is german/spanish. Similar brands/companies: Virax, Alarm, VBW, Dako

... last step of producing a HAZET 179-8 Tool Trolley.

Cool !!!!! Do you have more pics like that ??

I just found some new Festol Systainer - First Aid Systainer

nice ! Finally a useful systainer

Got the Stubai wrenches today and they were missing the most important part the COO. Luckily the importer will let me return them and get a refund if he can't find an Austrian marked set.

Other than that the wrenches seemed nice. The finish isn't like US tools more of a matte chrome.

Also I noticed this at 7-11.

interesting wrenches... laser etched or printed inscription ??

hmm zig zags ... for cigarettes or something else ??






My fathers Black + Decker electric shear (for carpet etc.)

 

[american lockpicker]

interesting wrenches... laser etched or printed inscription ??

hmm zig zags ... for cigarettes or something else ??

Printed I think. Also after closer examination I noticed this marking.

Maybe it indicates a manufacturer. I know the Stubai wrench I had before looked like this.

Totally different...

Also the zig zags are for tobacco. I love the taste of tobacco and unfiltered cigerettes(like Camels) cost a fortune... Can you recommend me a good european pipe tobacco? Also weed is highly illegal here and could affect my ability to buy guns if caught with it. I need to visit Holland someday to try it and buy some Beargrip tools.

Oh and I forgot earlier I seen a Fein multimaster new today. It was the $400 model new with all accessories for $270 at the flea market. Is it worth getting and will Fein offer any kind of warrenty if it breaks?

 

[mrtools]

The white one is from Wiha, the yellow one Stanley branded

nice ! What brand of screw remover is that ?

Nice bro but i like a 70 years Wiha it a limited edition stuff?

I dont know a brand no name just stamp Made in Germany

some flea market finds:

Sunflag + Tone screwdrivers
www.tonetool.co.jp
www.sunflag.co.jp

or are they the same ? I guess both are made by Sunflag

Awesome hex driver a good Japanese brand
No doubt bro im agree with ur guess it made by SunFlag

Btw : i have 1 Sunflag driver i will post pics letter

Here are a few Hazet pieces I picked up this week. Used but in great condition.

I don't need too much SAE so luckily these 2 wrenches cover the common sizes.

I have some other nice looking SAE wrenches that might go in the classifieds here.

A good shiny Hazet wrenches

Bought a new Bosch drill:

speed dial and torque control:

keyed chuck

Very nice toys
maybe for ur kids

Because they are toys

My fathers Black + Decker electric shear (for carpet etc.)

Awesome oldskool Black + Decker power tool

Printed I think. Also after closer examination I noticed this marking.

Maybe it indicates a manufacturer. I know the Stubai wrench I had before looked like this.

Totally different...

Nice Stubai wrenches just waiting

 

[mrtools]

SunFlag reversible blade screwdriver

Handle like Tone

 

[The Motts]

interesting who offers the Wiha rulers !!!

Somebody know another brand ?

Searching with Google I found these:

Klein:

General:

Rhino:

 

[toolfanatic]

I've been lurking here for a while, time to put up something from the old world myself! Here's an English-made Record engineer's vice, size number 00 (their smallest). The jaws measure only 2 1/4" across, there is a small piece broken from the jaw casting, but nothing serious. The sliding jaw action is smooth and there's minimal evidence of it having been used as an anvil. Picked this up yesterday for €25 (or about $35). I might put this in my electrolysis rig before I refinish in Record blue. I've also recently bought two nice IRIMO socket sets, 1/4" and 3/8", brand new, but not sure if these are still made in Europe anymore.

 

[handtools-from-germany]

Yes, i am the sales manager of this internet-shop.

 

[handtools-from-germany]

Another picture. Here you can see the HAZET-guy who calibrated the torque wrenches. Example you have an torque wrench with release accuracy tolerance of ± 4%. He is calibrating your wrench near cero. So after he is repairing your wrench it is better than a new one. The guy is such ambition that he always wants the best results for your torque wrench.

Greetings from Germany/Bochum

 

[jensputzier]

ps: what is the Hazet promo price of the "190-20" "Hazet Cockpit" (empty) ?

319 Euros plus VAT, PM me for a final quote plus shipping.

Jens

 

[Jeff]

I have the small folding ruler from Wiha. It was one of my first reviews, which can be seen here.

 

[jensputzier]

I think the price for the Hazet 166n is too much.

The problem to deliver to your contry is not the time - the shipping cost are one of the part that make HAZET tools expansive in the USA.

However, for all questions about HAZET tools i have an answer....

Before there are any misunderstandings:

The Assistent 166N has a list price of 715 Euros plus 19% VAT inside of the European Union. The current reduced list price from Hazet is 510 Euros plus VAT. At the current exchange rate that is a little more than 710 US$, customers outside of the EU do not have to pay VAT.

Now you have to add the Ebay fee plus the paypal fee.

That is the price before shipping.

About shipping: There are several alternatives for shipping.

Sea freight is no alternative, because it takes ages to get to you and the customer has to do all the customs paperwork and the complete import procedure himself. For a private customer who has no experience with this, it is a pain.

If you use air freight, there is DHL shipping. One DHL option is the cheap route without any insurance and no useful tracking. The estimated transit time is 2-3 weeks, but in practice this has taken 6 to 8 weeks and you have no valid tracking most of the time. This is because you have a change in carriers. DHL ships it out of Germany and USPS eventually takes over the delivery in the US. That's why the tracking is not consistent.

The second DHL option (called premium air freight) is double the price, takes an estimated time of 1-2 weeks (up to 7 weeks) and costs about 250 US$. Same problems with tracking.

If you have a problem with a DHL shipment, they cannot help. I received a letter from DHL in the mail today, telling me they couldn't find a lost parcel. This parcel was late in January and was delivered eventually at the end of January. 6 weeks later it is officially still lost. Take that for service.

That's why I use UPS Expedited. Delivery time 5 work days, consistent carrier, consistent tracking, no problem with customs and full insurance.

So I believe that a price of 880 US$ including UPS Expedited 5 day shipping for a 166N is a fair price on Ebay. Outside of Ebay ask me.

Furthermore with the 166N you can get a lot more tools without any extra shipping costs (basically everything that I can fit inside the 166N). And you have access to the complete line of Hazet tools, not just what's in stock at your Hazet dealer in the US.

I would say that the prices of all the US sellers are rather high, considering that they buy a load of tools in a container and have almost no shipping costs if you break down the shipping of a complete container down to the single tools.

All the assistent trolleys are considered metal cabinets and there should be no import duties on that.

 

[flyingkite]

Yes, i am the sales manager of this internet-shop.

Well, my daughter just bought HAZET Smart Case for me (She lives in a small town near Bonn).

I'll be visiting Germany in April and will pick all my orders from her closet. Unfortunately, Lufthansa allows only one piece of luggage (maximum of 23kg) for flights between USA and Europe. Of course, I can borrow some space in my wife's bag but not without consequences..

How about GarageJornal discount for the next purchase?

 

[handtools-from-germany]

One of my favorite tools here in Germany. Universal Puller-Set made in Wuppertal/Germany

 

[Monte]

Printed I think. Also after closer examination I noticed this marking.
Maybe it indicates a manufacturer. I know the Stubai wrench I had before looked like this.

Totally different...

the old ones look good....
...or maybe a date code or code for a forging die ?? Gedore has something like that too...

Also the zig zags are for tobacco. I love the taste of tobacco and unfiltered cigerettes(like Camels) cost a fortune... Can you recommend me a good european pipe tobacco? Also weed is highly illegal here and could affect my ability to buy guns if caught with it. I need to visit Holland someday to try it and buy some Beargrip tools.

sorry i don´t know nothing about tobacco but i googled a bit and here is a site with a overview of pipe tobacco available here:
http://www.tabakpfeife24.de/Pfeifentabak

visit holland to buy tools... yes... i believe you

WHAT ???? You can´t own drugs and weapons at the same time in the US ?
The democracy is close to the edge........

Oh and I forgot earlier I seen a Fein multimaster new today. It was the $400 model new with all accessories for $270 at the flea market. Is it worth getting and will Fein offer any kind of warrenty if it breaks?

At the flea ?? Is it original ...??...
No invoice no warranty i guess... ??? i dunno how they handle that in the US... But the tool could be already several years old...

Nice bro but i like a 70 years Wiha it a limited edition stuff?

yes i think. I got it as a gift, i dont know if they are for sale ?

Awesome hex driver a good Japanese brand
No doubt bro im agree with ur guess it made by SunFlag

Very nice toys
maybe for ur kids

For me !!!!
i don´t have kids yet. If one day then they have to work all day so i can buy more tools

Awesome oldskool Black + Decker power tool

yes the old ones made in west germany are good

SunFlag reversible blade screwdriver
Handle like Tone

nice !! Looks like mine !

Searching with Google I found these:
Klein:
General:
Rhino:

cool thanks for the pics/Info !!!! Interesting to see where you can find Wiha rulers ! Wiha rulers rule



nice vice !

Another picture

cool !!! Do you have more pics ?

319 Euros plus VAT, PM me for a final quote plus shipping.
Jens

thanks !! More expensive than i thought
I might get back to you but that can take 2 month....








A video about side cutting pliers I made today:
(even with sound turn up the volume)

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/MdOoIjrZR7s" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

 

[handtools-from-germany]

Well, my daughter just bought HAZET Smart Case for me (She lives in a small town near Bonn).

I'll be visiting Germany in April and will pick all my orders from her closet. Unfortunately, Lufthansa allows only one piece of luggage (maximum of 23kg) for flights between USA and Europe. Of course, I can borrow some space in my wife's bag but not without consequences..

How about GarageJornal discount for the next purchase?

How many days you will stay in Germany?

 

[flyingkite]

yeah post some pics from the TBS tools !
Honestly, if you want to buy all these tools you mentioned i wouldn´t buy them at a big box store, i would go to a professional tool store because you can get better tools at a better price if you buy all these tools at the same time (and store)

some stores in cologne for example:

Aug. Hülden GmbH + Co. KG
Weißhausstraße 7
50939 Köln

Lentz & Schmahl GmbH
Max-Planck-Str. 36
50858 Köln

Or at least check out one of these stores and a big box store.

Monte,

Thank you for a good tip!

Both places are very close to each other and not far from Bonn.

I'm curious about the big shop nearby:

 

[flyingkite]

How many days you will stay in Germany?

Just eight days, we are not spoiled with the vacation days here.


P.S. Of course we bought our HAZET Smart Case from Heisse-Nuesse!

 

[expatriated]

Before there are any misunderstandings:

The Assistent 166N has a list price of 715 Euros plus 19% VAT inside of the European Union. The current reduced list price from Hazet is 510 Euros plus VAT. At the current exchange rate that is a little more than 710 US$, customers outside of the EU do not have to pay VAT.

Now you have to add the Ebay fee plus the paypal fee.

That is the price before shipping.

About shipping: There are several alternatives for shipping.

Sea freight is no alternative, because it takes ages to get to you and the customer has to do all the customs paperwork and the complete import procedure himself. For a private customer who has no experience with this, it is a pain.

If you use air freight, there is DHL shipping. One DHL option is the cheap route without any insurance and no useful tracking. The estimated transit time is 2-3 weeks, but in practice this has taken 6 to 8 weeks and you have no valid tracking most of the time. This is because you have a change in carriers. DHL ships it out of Germany and USPS eventually takes over the delivery in the US. That's why the tracking is not consistent.

The second DHL option (called premium air freight) is double the price, takes an estimated time of 1-2 weeks (up to 7 weeks) and costs about 250 US$. Same problems with tracking.

If you have a problem with a DHL shipment, they cannot help. I received a letter from DHL in the mail today, telling me they couldn't find a lost parcel. This parcel was late in January and was delivered eventually at the end of January. 6 weeks later it is officially still lost. Take that for service.

That's why I use UPS Expedited. Delivery time 5 work days, consistent carrier, consistent tracking, no problem with customs and full insurance.

So I believe that a price of 880 US$ including UPS Expedited 5 day shipping for a 166N is a fair price on Ebay. Outside of Ebay ask me.

Furthermore with the 166N you can get a lot more tools without any extra shipping costs (basically everything that I can fit inside the 166N). And you have access to the complete line of Hazet tools, not just what's in stock at your Hazet dealer in the US.

I would say that the prices of all the US sellers are rather high, considering that they buy a load of tools in a container and have almost no shipping costs if you break down the shipping of a complete container down to the single tools.

All the assistent trolleys are considered metal cabinets and there should be no import duties on that.

Excellent info, Jens! Danke. I guess for my next order, I'll just save up for a completely full Assistent

 

[Monte]

Monte,

Thank you for a good tip!

Both places are very close to each other and not far from Bonn.
:

hopefully one of these stores has what you are looking for !

I'm curious about the big shop nearby:

which street is it ?











some more flea market finds:

old Wera screwdriver

old Würth wrench

 

[mrtools]

yes i think. I got it as a gift, i dont know if they are for sale ?

For me !!!!
i don´t have kids yet. If one day then they have to work all day so i can buy more tools
yes the old ones made in west germany are good
nice !! Looks like mine !

A video about side cutting pliers I made today:
(even with sound turn up the volume)

Congratulation bro ur a lucky guy to have one

Wow nice video + awesome side cutting pliers collections
im very impress with ur Belzer plier
Btw: Im still heard ur **** voice bravo monte
Im waiting for a next video maybe demo to cut a wire?

some more flea market finds:

old Wera screwdriver


old Würth wrench

Nice shopping..
first time i see a very tough screwdriver shaf
Würth a nice too
both a Germany made?

 

[GTVi]

Hey Monte...excellent video...and I like your accent.
By the way, I pronounce the names differently, i.e. Knipex I say with a silent 'K'. Keep the videos coming.

 

[flyingkite]

hopefully one of these stores has what you are looking for !



which street is it ?

Weißhausstraße, the "right" store is marked by the yellow dot and the big one is just nearby on the same street.

I'll find it out in April anyway. There are also two big Bauhaus stores in Cologne. They are far away from each other, so I'm planning to visit at least one of them. My daughter now has a special assignment, find out which one has more tools for sale!

 

[Bhae]

Nice video Monte!

 

[north]

*snip*

A video about side cutting pliers I made today:
(even with sound turn up the volume)
*snip*

You the man Monte.

 

[Bhae]

 

[expatriated]

319 Euros plus VAT, PM me for a final quote plus shipping.

Jens

Is there any space below the top tray of the Cockpit? It looks like there should be a LOT of space in the bottom. But none of the literature I've seen shows it.

Is it just space for the ratchet handles?

 

[expatriated]

Anyone know of a store in Tirane, Albania that sells Hazet?

 

[Jason Ga]

Just got my first Hazet order in from Jens! He was great to deal with and my order got here fast!

Excuse the crappy cell phone pics...

Thanks Jens!

(I dealt with him direct rather than through ebay)

 

[expatriated]

Very nice, Jason. Jens said my order is to ship on Wednesday--can't wait!!!!!

 

[Hazet]

Nice Hazet. Jens offers top service.

 

[Jason Ga]

Thanks, and I'm sure you will be happy expatriated.

I agree that Jens is excellent to do business with!

 

[bart1]

And here I thought I was one of the first to order from Jens off here.

I like the new avatar, expat


Couple eBay Hazet items first:

And then a box of goodies from Jens!

Odd little tool, wonder what it is?

Hint:

Crown tool jewels are these:

New stubby bit holder and screwdrivers:

I think we have all seen people hanging their Wihas and Weras out of screws. Well, Hazet kicks it up a notch, even with their little cheap drivers:

Nifty lil XZN bit to remove my axles:

Guess that's all for now. I also have a couple (my first) Stahlwille and Gedore pieces, but they would have been out of place in this post

 

[Monte]

Congratulation bro ur a lucky guy to have one

Wow nice video + awesome side cutting pliers collections
im very impress with ur Belzer plier
Btw: Im still heard ur **** voice bravo monte
Im waiting for a next video maybe demo to cut a wire?

yeah the Belzer pliers are beautiful
in the next video maybe i will talk a little bit more and maybe i will cut 1 or 2 wires with one of these pliers

Nice shopping..
first time i see a very tough screwdriver shaf
Würth a nice too
both a Germany made?

yeah it looks really strong. It seems the screwdriver blade is drop forged (the blade and hex bolster are ground). The screwdrivers says "GERMANY IMP." on the handle ("GERMANY IMPort" ??) Maybe because its imported to germany or to tell the customers from abroad that the screwdriver is imported from germany to their country ?
http://img716.imageshack.us/img716/8408/hsv019.jpg

The wrench don´t say "Germany" , i think it looks like a older Bahco-Belzer or Sandvik-Belzer wrench design. Maybe made by them so i guess it´s either from Germany or Argentina.

Hey Monte...excellent video...and I like your accent.
By the way, I pronounce the names differently, i.e. Knipex I say with a silent 'K'. Keep the videos coming.

accent ? That´s german
yeah in the US/UK etc. everything is pronounced different than over here...

Weißhausstraße, the "right" store is marked by the yellow dot and the big one is just nearby on the same street.

I'll find it out in April anyway. There are also two big Bauhaus stores in Cologne. They are far away from each other, so I'm planning to visit at least one of them. My daughter now has a special assignment, find out which one has more tools for sale!

....maybe there are more tool stores

i posted some pics of our Bauhaus here:

http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1000391&highlight=bauhaus#post1000391

for a first look

Nice video Monte!

Thanks !
Nice Makita tools !

You the man Monte.

Anyone know of a store in Tirane, Albania that sells Hazet?

There is no Hazet dealer in Albania listed on the Hazet website

Excuse the crappy cell phone pics...

nice Hazet tools


@bart1:

cool bottle opener !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is there a part number on the tool ???
btw: sweeet Hazet tools !!!







NOS blue handle "Felo" torx screwdriver:

"Athlet" screwdriver www.athlet-online.de

 

[bart1]

Monte - I do have a part number. Sort of - it just says 863 bottle opener.

 

[american lockpicker]

Nice accent Monte. The Fein is real but not sure how old(does it really matter?)

Picked up the hose clamp pliers today, I have no use for them but they looked interesting and were made in France...

Since it had moving parts I made a short video.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/8npKjj13rfI" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Also heres some other EU made Craftsman tools.

 

[jensputzier]

Monte - I do have a part number. Sort of - it just says 863 bottle opener.

There is a part number on that but you wouldn't be able to order that directly. I have bought a box full of those, so if there is any need....

For every larger order I'll throw one in, otherwise just PM me.

It is basically a 863 ratchet without the ratchet mechanism. Then they mill out a part and chrome plate it.

That's what the apprentices make out of the parts that are somehow nicked a bit and can't be sold as perfect ratchets.

 

[jensputzier]

Picked up the hose clamp pliers today, I have no use for them but they looked interesting and were made in France...

I always thought it read "Made in Trance" back when I had a Citroen ;-)