Tools from the old world

[Trucky]

A screw-holding screwdriver from Athlet.. and the tips are parallel! I want one Time to save up I suppose. Why does everyone else have cool bottle openers except me? I really need to do some catching-up.

 

[Monte]

@ Monte, Dude that Tornador Gun is so badass! I was a detailer for several years, and my god that would have made things so much easier!

yeah that thing is nice especially for mats and carpets, removes dust, cleans seat tracks, dry things etc...

Also, how are the Gedor ratcheting wrenches? I'm really interested in buying some, but want your opinion first.

The finish is not as good as the taiwanese wrenches and the ratcheting is a bit rougher, like if you would compare a older Snap-On 936 series ratchet with a Dual 80 ratchet.

How interesting acquisition Monte, has a chance to repair?

Very nice ratchet! By the way, I just maintain my model, apply a few drops of Permatex Ultra Slick already been better than when I bought

i will try to repair it !
I think the ratchets get smoother the more often they´re used.

Made a new video what do you guys think

nice video

Finally I visited our summer cottage. I Found some tools

very nice antique tools !!

Wow, those seem awesome! Not that I do much interior work, but that seems great. Sure they require a big compressor though...

The Tornador Black needs a compressor which delivers 270 Liter/minute

Some gifts from my gedore dealer.

Nice bottle opener + screwholding drivers !

btw: the Gedore 4 R wrenches are about twice the price of a 7 R wrench. For example 12x13mm wrench = 24.75€ or 18x19mm = 29.80€ (2012 list price without tax)

 

[ash95608]

Some time ago i posted pictures of some of my bosch air tools and exact tools, I was asked to post some closeup picture, so finally got around to taking them.

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[Ken81590]

The finish is not as good as the taiwanese wrenches and the ratcheting is a bit rougher, like if you would compare a older Snap-On 936 series ratchet with a Dual 80 ratchet.

Wow! The difference is that drastic?

 

[CanUK]

Nice first post. I like unior, i love husaberg. Welcome.

And nice bottle opener of course.

Thanks! The Husaberg was the best old-world tool I've ever owned - beautifully put together and almost limitless fun:

Now I have a KTM -also a brilliant old-world tool, but despite all the mods not quite as good as the (stock) Husaberg was IMO:

Welcome to the forum CanUK. Nice wordplay and cool Unior.

Welcome! Sure, this tool is must have when you're thirsty.

Thanks both.

I'll post the contents of my drawers (the old-world tools in my tool-box drawers, that is) when I get a chance to take some photos. It's a modest, but growing (much to the consternation of my Mrs) collection from which I take a disproportionate amount of pleasure and pride.

i like more unior with 13 mm wrench

I'm not sure whether that's specifically in response to my post, but if so; I agree that it may be nicer, and certainly more practical, but I believe it only comes with a KTM. In that case I'd still choose my opener along with the Husaberg

 

[zuspiel]

10mm & 12mm combination wrench weight comparison Asahi LCW vs Heyco 410 vs Stahlwille Open-Box 14 + Open-Box 13

Asahi LCW 10mm = 21 grams

Stahlwille 14 - 10mm = 43 grams

Heyco 410 - 10mm = 48 grams

Asahi LCW 12mm = 38 grams

Stahlwille 14 - 12mm = 63 grams

Heyco 410 - 12mm = 73 grams

..just weight comparison..

Thank you! I think I'll have to have a set...

 

[Monte]

Some time ago i posted pictures of some of my bosch air tools and exact tools, I was asked to post some closeup picture, so finally got around to taking them.

Thank you very much for these nice videos !!!
btw. nice tools !!

Wow! The difference is that drastic?

about , maybe a little bit less drastic
But ask the others maybe they have a better comparison







New PB Swiss "Rainbow" Swiss Grip drivers are available:

 

[lok]

btw: the Gedore 4 R wrenches are about twice the price of a 7 R wrench. For example 12x13mm wrench = 24.75€ or 18x19mm = 29.80€ (2012 list price without tax)

Then i suppose is better for someone to buy the 7r. Unless he hasn't much space in his toolbox or he has a lot of open wrenches.

The finish is not as good as the taiwanese wrenches and the ratcheting is a bit rougher, like if you would compare a older Snap-On 936 series ratchet with a Dual 80 ratchet.

What do you mean about the finish. It's no as robust as it is in the Taiwanese or that it is not so glossy and silk?

Yes it is a bit rougher than the old one but with thicker oil they Become smoother. Also, as you noted, with the use they become even smoother. The no 10 7ur xs that i have used quite a lot are smoother than the first time. I have it under the seat of my motorbike and i use it very often as a mini ratchet. I don't believe that it will be as smooth as the taiwanese though.

Some time ago i posted pictures of some of my bosch air tools and exact tools, I was asked to post some closeup picture, so finally got around to taking them.

Thanks for the Videos. Very nice.

Thanks! The Husaberg was the best old-world tool I've ever owned - beautifully put together and almost limitless fun:

:

Nice gun man. It's a pity that you sold it. But the new is just as good. What tools the KTM had when you got it? Beta hah?





Τhe majority of my order arrived today. Unfortunately there was a confusion with the same codes for the new and the older and I have not yet all that i ordered. More photos will follow.

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[Monte]

Then i suppose is better for someone to buy the 7r. Unless he hasn't much space in his toolbox or he has a lot of open wrenches.

yeah i think so too !

What do you mean about the finish. It's no as robust as it is in the Taiwanese or that it is not so glossy and silk?

not as (almost) perfectly ground. At least my wrench has some grinding marks at the box end on the sides.

Yes it is a bit rougher than the old one but with thicker oil they Become smoother. Also, as you noted, with the use they become even smoother. The no 10 7ur xs that i have used quite a lot are smoother than the first time. I have it under the seat of my motorbike and i use it very often as a mini ratchet. I don't believe that it will be as smooth as the taiwanese though.

Maybe with a modified spring (shorter ?) or maybe remove the spring and store it compressed for a while it will make the wrench even smoother ?.....

Τhe majority of my order arrived today. Unfortunately there was a confusion with the same codes for the new and the older and I have not yet all that i ordered. More photos will follow.

very nice ! Now you almost have all of them ?

btw. a pic for you

 

[north]

Man, ever since I got the Gedore catalog my lust for some more Gedore has grown. I need to win the lottery. (Don't we all)

 

[Jure]

Thanks! The Husaberg was the best old-world tool I've ever owned - beautifully put together and almost limitless fun:

Now I have a KTM -also a brilliant old-world tool, but despite all the mods not quite as good as the (stock) Husaberg was IMO:

Thanks both.

I'll post the contents of my drawers (the old-world tools in my tool-box drawers, that is) when I get a chance to take some photos. It's a modest, but growing (much to the consternation of my Mrs) collection from which I take a disproportionate amount of pleasure and pride.



I'm not sure whether that's specifically in response to my post, but if so; I agree that it may be nicer, and certainly more practical, but I believe it only comes with a KTM. In that case I'd still choose my opener along with the Husaberg

yep with ktm,btw husaberg is carber right? or fi?

 

[Ken81590]

God I love this thread

 

[mrtools]

One Belzer set for working and one set for your NOS Belzer collection

Yeahh!! I'm tried to get NOS Germany Belzer Hex driver set

I don´t know how much you paid but they don´t make these sets anymore

maybe it quite expensive for someone, but for me it worth as you said "they don´t make these sets anymore" I paid MYR140.00 @ Euro35.00 for 12pcs interchangeable blade nut driver set + handle + extension with pouch and I have to pay MYR120.00 @ Euro 30.00 tomorrow to get 11pcs hex driver set with pouch for the next

yes Supercraft (40mm) !!! You have a well trained tool eye

If you´re looking for german made ratcheting wrenches i can recommend Gedore

Yes! I'm looking for German made ratcheting wrenches but not now maybe in the future
thanks for advise.

just hobby, 1984 Cadillac from a buddy

Woww!! great hobby

Thanks for these nice comparison pics !!
Do you feel a big difference in your hand when you hold the Asahi wrench and then the Stahlwille for example ?

You are welcome!
Not too much for smaller size wrenches..honestly for comfort I go to Stahlwille

"Tornador Classic" cleaning gun

Nice cleaning equipment! very good video

my contribution. some pictures from some maintenance on the excavator

Nice..the most beautiful comb. wrenches I think
Thanks for the pics
can we have more pics from your tools drawer

My Swedish MTP voltage tester (by Sagab):
Works great

Nice tools to detect" live" cable inside concrete

Here's some Facom tools in action...355 service with cam timing and replacing the oil pumps on the F40.

Made a new video what do you guys think

Nice tools! great promotion video

Finally I visited our summer cottage. I Found some tools

Awesome
thank for posting

Ow man, you are so lucky!
Thanks for the pics Mr.

You are welcome!

I want some for under the seat of my motorcycle. Very hard to find them here in Greece.

It very suitable to used as motorcycle tools kits
I'm planning to use it as motorcycle kits too, but I need to add several size to complete a set.
I know it hard to find Japan tools supplier..even in Asia, maybe you should buy online.

Very cool comparison! I must say (with my limited construction engineering knowledge) that I think they're much weaker than a regular wrench. Just consider the strength difference between an I-beam and two flat irons...

Sturdier frame, better frame handle ("ergo" classed) and a different blade release. Screw type on the 319, lever on the 325.

Nice hacksaw
both from Sweden?

Some time ago i posted pictures of some of my bosch air tools and exact tools, I was asked to post some closeup picture, so finally got around to taking them.

Nice video thanks to share

Thank you! I think I'll have to have a set...

You are welcome! the way to go

New PB Swiss "Rainbow" Swiss Grip drivers are available:

Great set for collectors

Τhe majority of my order arrived today. Unfortunately there was a confusion with the same codes for the new and the older and I have not yet all that i ordered. More photos will follow.

prices for 7UR please?
you mean same item no. for old and new series?

 

[mrtools]

Double open ended wrenches
Asahi + Hit

Old Acesa + King **** + Elora from my buddy toolbox

 

[north]

Time for some electrolysis.

Nice DOE's and cool design on the HIT ends.

 

[ncfh]

Those Gedore ratcheting wrenches are just beautiful!

 

[Mitkoasd]

Hi everybody~! There is some pictures of my russian ratchet and i'll show you everything from my collection in next weeks and monts! Enjoy!

 

[lok]

not as (almost) perfectly ground. At least my wrench has some grinding marks at the box end on the sides.

You mean grinding marks like this?

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More photos will follow.

Maybe with a modified spring (shorter ?) or maybe remove the spring and store it compressed for a while it will make the wrench even smoother ?.....

Yes maybe. Not so necessary (for me at least) but maybe i'll try it some day just from curiosity.

very nice ! Now you almost have all of them ?

Yes almost.

btw. a pic for you

Nice tools!

Awesome photo Monte. Thanks.

It very suitable to used as motorcycle tools kits
I'm planning to use it as motorcycle kits too, but I need to add several size to complete a set.
I know it hard to find Japan tools supplier..even in Asia, maybe you should buy online.

Yes only online but again i must order them somewhere from Europe (Inside the European Union). Otherwise Ι will pay 2 times their value at the customs. I haven't found any online store yet but i haven't search a lot.

prices for 7UR please?
you mean same item no. for old and new series?

Yes that's right.
I ordered through my dealer the new 7ur and came half new and half old ones. My dealer kept the old 7ur and reorder the size that didn't came. The second time the no 10 was missing from the order. Probably the main importer has a huge stock from the old and must order it from Germany.

Same part no for both. The old one.
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The price here in greece for the made in Germany 7ur (ex tax).

No10 13,85
No11 13,85
No12 14,25
No13 14,25
No14 16,52
No15 16,52
No16 19,64
No17 19,64
No18 21,10
No19 21,10

7R for compassion (if you want)
No10 9.30
No18 13,96
No19 14,27

I buy at better prices though.



More photos.

Monte the griding marks exist only in one from all that I have. All the other are like the one in the bottom.

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But for me this is not a problem. The more industrial look it has the more i like it. Also I believe that the chrome in the non polished have greater durability.

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Comparison with some old 7ur. There are some very good comparison photos and review from Monte somewhere in this thread though.

The old doesn't belong to me. I don't know how much used (or abused) it is. The non protected selector maybe is an issue. Or maybe someone try to open it. I don't know.

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The one with the sliding selector is even older.

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The finish looks very good.

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The one with the broken selector. Looks abused.

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Or maybe did not need polishing.

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Sorry bad lighting but I like it. Maybe I need some 1B.

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The difference in the finish.

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[north]

Thanks for the pics Mitkoasd. What brand is that ratchet and how many teeth? Looking forward to next week.

Nice pics lok. I agree with you on the grind marks. It's Gedore beauty.

A set of 12 7-UR wrenches, 8-19mm in a metal case, will cost NOK1995 here, including tax.That's around €265. Not a bad price for German made quality.

 

[lok]

Hi everybody~! There is some pictures of my russian ratchet and i'll show you everything from my collection in next weeks and monts! Enjoy!

Nice tools Mitkoasd. The ratchet looks like new. Well done. We are waiting for the rest.

Thanks for the pics Mitkoasd. What brand is that ratchet and how many teeth? Looking forward to next week.

12 maybe.
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=2312680&postcount=11078

Nice pics lok. I agree with you on the grind marks. It's Gedore beauty.

A set of 12 7-UR wrenches, 8-19mm in a metal case, will cost NOK1995 here, including tax.That's around €265. Not a bad price for German made quality.

226 for the same set ( 7ur-012) exuding tax. And the case is incredible good. Yes the price is great.

 

[Mitkoasd]

The ratchet is really new because it is not used. It made around 70's and its the first mass made ratchet in Russiq. I dont now nothing about the teeth but it is too hard to work with it and i dont use this tool. I both this russian complect because the stones (i'm not sure that is the right word?).

 

[unknow82]

Here's some Facom tools in action...355 service with cam timing and replacing the oil pumps on the F40.

Nice!

Are both yours?

(I got four Ferraris and one Lamborghini, Today I started carburator tuning to my Countach, after compleat carburator rebuild, just love those carburators!)

 

[Monte]

I need to win the lottery. (Don't we all)

me too me too

Yeahh!! I'm tried to get NOS Germany Belzer Hex driver set

maybe it quite expensive for someone, but for me it worth as you said "they don´t make these sets anymore" I paid MYR140.00 @ Euro35.00 for 12pcs interchangeable blade nut driver set + handle + extension with pouch and I have to pay MYR120.00 @ Euro 30.00 tomorrow to get 11pcs hex driver set with pouch for the next

WOW that are very good prices !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For that price you don´t have to think twice !!!!

Yes! I'm looking for German made ratcheting wrenches but not now maybe in the future
thanks for advise.

Woww!! great hobby

it´s fun ! And you can work with a lot of different tools and you need a lot of different tools

You are welcome!
Not too much for smaller size wrenches..honestly for comfort I go to Stahlwille

I knew it Stahlwille

Yes maybe. Not so necessary (for me at least) but maybe i'll try it some day just from curiosity.

try it and let me know

Yes almost.

The price here in greece for the made in Germany 7ur (ex tax).

That are good prices ! In germany the list price for the wrenches is about 20% higher !

You mean grinding marks like this?

Monte the griding marks exist only in one from all that I have. All the other are like the one in the bottom.

this is what i´m talking about . But if the majority of wrenches looks good then it´s ok.

But for me this is not a problem. The more industrial look it has the more i like it. Also I believe that the chrome in the non polished have greater durability.

yeah industrial look is ok, but nicely ground is good too

The one with the sliding selector is even older.

cool never saw one of those !

Maybe I need some 1B.

Yes



one of the older Gedore wrenches from one of the garage buddies, used in a semi-professional/hobby environment:


under the phosphate finish the ring seems to be plated. The phosphate and some of the plating is worn on some spots:


some pinches in the open end

 

[mrtools]

Time for some electrolysis.
Nice DOE's and cool design on the HIT ends.

Industrial design

Hi everybody~! There is some pictures of my russian ratchet and i'll show you everything from my collection in next weeks and monts! Enjoy!

Nice..

Yes only online but again i must order them somewhere from Europe (Inside the European Union). Otherwise Ι will pay 2 times their value at the customs.

I haven't found any online store yet but i haven't search a lot.

LevelChrome?
http://www.levelchrome.com/Wrench-Sets_c_38.html

Yes that's right.
I ordered through my dealer the new 7ur and came half new and half old ones. My dealer kept the old 7ur and reorder the size that didn't came. The second time the no 10 was missing from the order. Probably the main importer has a huge stock from the old and must order it from Germany.
Same part no for both. The old one.

Errr..maybe they too busy to update the item number

The price here in greece for the made in Germany 7ur (ex tax).
No10 13,85
No11 13,85
No12 14,25
No13 14,25
No14 16,52
No15 16,52
No16 19,64
No17 19,64
No18 21,10
No19 21,10
7R for compassion (if you want)
No10 9.30
No18 13,96
No19 14,27
I buy at better prices though.

Very good prices for this quality made wrenches
Thanks!
btw: Thanks you very much for the very good comparison pics + explanation for old & new 7UR...now I'm understand what the difference between old & new 7ur series

me too me too

We all need to win lottery to make our dream tools comes true..but I think our tools purchase cannot stop until we die

WOW that are very good prices !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
For that price you don´t have to think twice !!!!

Sure! just paid & received second NOS Germany Belzer set yesterday
pics below

it´s fun ! And you can work with a lot of different tools and you need a lot of different tools

..and a lot of money to buy tools but it worth!!
great hobby to add our knowledge about tools & cars restoration jobs.

one of the older Gedore wrenches from one of the garage buddies, used in a semi-professional/hobby environment:

Nice..

 

[mrtools]

My second score NOS Belzer Hex driver set
If someone remember I posted this here after came back from MetalTech exhibition Kuala Lumpur last week..After a weeks I contact the salesman to bought it and received yesterday, it the last stock!! thanks God no one here like Belzer

Got a chance to test it last night

Paid MYR260.00 @ Euro 65.00 for both sets

 

[elvisslipperman]

Very nice , cool tools , my favourite 3/8 ratchet is the belzer ergo ,its the best ive ever owned, in fact its now only used for clean jobs .

 

[mrtools]

Very nice , cool tools , my favourite 3/8 ratchet is the belzer ergo ,its the best ive ever owned, in fact its now only used for clean jobs .

Pics for the Belzer ergo ratchet please...

 

[Hazet]

I have not posted for a long while. I have been busy using my tools and pursuing a new hobby (bicycles). I got some bike repair tools. Bike tools are dominated by Park Tool (at least in the USA). I wanted something different and bought some Shimano, Tacx, and Gedore. The Tacx tools have a nice handle, but are stamped steel (like Park Tool). Tacx are made in Holland. Gedore tools are all forged and German made, the superior quality is evident. I will keep the Gedore tools and return the rest. The SKS pump is also German made and the best pump I have used.

 

[Jure]

I have not posted for a long while. I have been busy using my tools and pursuing a new hobby (bicycles). I got some bike repair tools. Bike tools are dominated by Park Tool (at least in the USA). I wanted something different and bought some Shimano, Tacx, and Gedore. The Tacx tools have a nice handle, but are stamped steel (like Park Tool). Tacx are made in Holland. Gedore tools are all forged and German made, the superior quality is evident. I will keep the Gedore tools and return the rest. The SKS pump is also German made and the best pump I have used.

nice! i have bunch of bicycle tools,they are all made by VAR in france

 

[ash95608]

Made another video, this one is on NWS tool finishes

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[north]

Nothing like a little tool school. Thank you for the vids ash.

 

[TjoFrasse]

My second score NOS Belzer Hex driver set
Paid MYR260.00 @ Euro 65.00 for both sets

Very nice sets, I'm jealous!

Hi everybody~! There is some pictures of my russian ratchet and i'll show you everything from my collection in next weeks and monts! Enjoy!

Cool ratchet!

More photos.

Comparison with some old 7ur. There are some very good comparison photos and review from Monte somewhere in this thread though.

Nice photos! I haven't noticed such marks on mine, but perhaps I just haven't inspected them...

Yesterday I got this:
Palmera side cutter. More green handled Spain made stuff 80:- SEK.

Unknown small hacksaw. Was in a misc box with no markings. 20:- SEK.

Some comparison photos between Palmera pliers and Knipex.

Needle nose size.

Combination head.

Side cutters, with a Bahco in the mix also.

And a bonus, an old ad for Sandvik saws. From a newspaper dated april 1945.

 

[PrecisionTools]

Anyone else here watch ToolTV? Cant understand a word of it but still good to watch for the addicted.

These Stahlwille Torque wrenches are nice...

 

[north]

Cool. Thanks for that. Been a long time since I really practised my german language skills but I get the gist of it.

 

[lok]

try it and let me know

Lol ok but i don't know how to take off the spring from the reversible. The selector is pinned, (i guess) to the.. hmmm internal - direction selector (is that corect? At least do you understand what i mean?)

I opened one of them to put grease. On this occasion I took some photos. so..

To take off this...
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must push or hit this?

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Ok I'll try it with the non reversible.

That are good prices ! In germany the list price for the wrenches is about 20% higher !

Noooooo.. How is that possible?
Are you sure? The prices that i posted are without tax. This shop have better price with tax.

http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Suche/gedore_7ur.htm?VL=gedore 7ur

yeah industrial look is ok, but nicely ground is good too

I agree with you but small imperfections don't bother me because part of the production is by hand and not full automated. when all the pieces are not perfect themselves this makes each piece unique. When there are such differences to different part of a product this complement the industrial look and make it (perfect?).

cool never saw one of those !

I have a few of them. 10,12,17,19. A friend gave me because he had also the newer ones (not the made in germany). He also gave me the broken No17.

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Some day the open end might be useful to me.

one of the older Gedore wrenches from one of the garage buddies, used in a semi-professional/hobby environment:

under the phosphate finish the ring seems to be plated.

Doesn't this apply to all?

The phosphate and some of the plating is worn on some spots:

The phosphate is worn, ok this is typical, i guess. The plating should had greater resistance, right?

some pinches in the open end

That happens when you exercise great pressure at angle or excessive force for the open end. It's not a fault right?

LevelChrome?

I will pay extra taxes to the customs office. Εhhmmm extra duty for product from countries that haven't Euro.

Very good prices for this quality made wrenches
Thanks!

The gedore have very good representation in my country.
My pleasure to help.

btw: Thanks you very much for the very good comparison pics + explanation for old & new 7UR...now I'm understand what the difference between old & new 7ur series

You welcome mrtools.

My second score NOS Belzer Hex driver set

Excellent.
Nice collection and great price.

Nice photos! I haven't noticed such marks on mine, but perhaps I just haven't inspected them...

Neither do i. Only when monte mention it, i noticed the marks.

Yesterday I got this:

Very nice. The green is not my favorite but the design is very special.







Like the U20 ratchet.

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[lok]

Made another video, this one is on NWS tool finishes

Another very good video. Thanks ash.

I have not posted for a long while. I have been busy using my tools and pursuing a new hobby (bicycles). I got some bike repair tools. [/IMG]

Come on Hazet. Post some new hazet tools.


The gedore tools for bicycles must be very good but if you want wider range you can take a look at the unior tools.

http://www.uniortools.com/categories/tools-for-bicycle-servicing

 

[Monte]

We all need to win lottery to make our dream tools comes true..but I think our tools purchase cannot stop until we die

or we must live forever to be able to buy all tools without the lottery win

..and a lot of money to buy tools but it worth!!
great hobby to add our knowledge about tools & cars restoration jobs.

yeah and i need something to use the tools for, just tools collecting is too boring

My second score NOS Belzer Hex driver set

whooooooowwwwwwwwwwww : :

I have not posted for a long while. I have been busy using my tools and pursuing a new hobby (bicycles). I got some bike repair tools. Bike tools are dominated by Park Tool (at least in the USA). I wanted something different and bought some Shimano, Tacx, and Gedore. The Tacx tools have a nice handle, but are stamped steel (like Park Tool). Tacx are made in Holland. Gedore tools are all forged and German made, the superior quality is evident. I will keep the Gedore tools and return the rest. The SKS pump is also German made and the best pump I have used.

is there a "Made in Holland" on the tool or package ? The website has this "Dutch Design" slogans all over....... "Design" or "Made".... ?

Made another video, this one is on NWS tool finishes

Thanks !

Unknown small hacksaw. Was in a misc box with no markings. 20:- SEK.

not the OEM but available from several companies

nice Palmera pliers. Makes me want to buy this set:
http://www.24-7-tools.de/catalog/pr...d/463?osCsid=1c1520e099ce9d9eeb650dfac4d246ce

Anyone else here watch ToolTV?

subscribed

must push or hit this?

i think yes

Ok I'll try it with the non reversible.

i think they are already smoother ?

Noooooo.. How is that possible?
Are you sure? The prices that i posted are without tax. This shop have better price with tax.
http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Suche/gedore_7ur.htm?VL=gedore 7ur

yeah the prices increased a lot in 2012
the 7R-012 set for example was 179,10 in 2011 and is now 198.-€ + tax.
The TBS prices are very very good though.
Especially this:
http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Gedore/Sch...chluesselknarren-Satz_SW_8-19_i2430_41995.htm

I agree with you but small imperfections don't bother me because part of the production is by hand and not full automated. when all the pieces are not perfect themselves this makes each piece unique. When there are such differences to different part of a product this complement the industrial look and make it (perfect?).

for me it´s not a problem either, i only wanted to warn the (american) consumer that they might get something different than they expected so they are not sad or disappointed. Because tools in america are usually perfectly finished it seems (except Craftsman maybe ) whether they are from the US or Taiwan, so the customer expects a flawless finish or the quality is not good in their opinion and they don´t like it.

I have a few of them. 10,12,17,19. A friend gave me because he had also the newer ones (not the made in germany). He also gave me the broken No17.
Some day the open end might be useful to me.

interesting, seems to be from a different manufacturer since the jaw design is different , the ring looks different etc.

Doesn't this apply to all?

i think the new ones only have a phosphate finish ?

The phosphate is worn, ok this is typical, i guess. The plating should had greater resistance, right?

yes i think so

That happens when you exercise great pressure at angle or excessive force for the open end. It's not a fault right?

i dunno....the wrench should be stronger than any screw.... ?






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[lok]

i think yes

Ok, so when i have time i' will try with the non reversible which are less complicated.

i think they are already smoother ?

I haven't done anything yet.
If you mean that they are smoother than the reversible i don' t think that they are. At least i don't see any different. The smoothest are the most used until now.

yeah the prices increased a lot in 2012
the 7R-012 set for example was 179,10 in 2011 and is now 198.-€ + tax.
The TBS prices are very very good though.
Especially this:
http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Gedore/Sch...chluesselknarren-Satz_SW_8-19_i2430_41995.htm

So i presume that the prices will increase and here as well. Carolus increase his price around 20% in 2012.

for me it´s not a problem either, i only wanted to warn the (american) consumer that they might get something different than they expected so they are not sad or disappointed. Because tools in america are usually perfectly finished it seems (except Craftsman maybe ) whether they are from the US or Taiwan, so the customer expects a flawless finish or the quality is not good in their opinion and they don´t like it.

ahh.. yes you are right.

interesting, seems to be from a different manufacturer since the jaw design is different , the ring looks different etc.

Yes probably.

i think the new ones only have a phosphate finish ?

Yes right. According to catalog the tempering is followed by the screw insert being manganese-phosphate.

i dunno....the wrench should be stronger than any screw.... ?

Ahh.. how i forget it.

 

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FINALLY! My very first contribution to this thread!!!

Don't mind the mac and snap-on non german poo in the background!

 

[mvptrukin]

Any members in the USA order from the US version of the Gedore website? I was trying to order an item that is available from the German website but doesn't come up on the US website. It is the 1/4 " ratcheting bit screwdriver # 674/ code # 6530710. I have never liked the SO version and don't like storing the bits in the handle. Also are the tools shipped from Germany or their warehouse in South Carolina.I like to ship UPS and it defaulted to FedEx every time.I have always bought Gedore from Epsteins or some other source.