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MechManiac

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Sorry about your experience with Britool Expert. What were the tools that dissapointed you?

I have the old style 1/4-3/8 drive hex set pictured somewhere around here and it's a good buy at least for home use.
I also have a 1/2 socket set from the new Expert range and I have to say that the chrome is all there and looking fine. AFAIK sockets are made in France by Facom while the ratchet is from Taiwan but all in all I consider it a good buy. Sorry about the pic quality, dont havethe camera nor the lighting for chrome pictures.


Old school "made in "britool" england" stuff are legendary. Built to last. I'm afraid to try their new line
 
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marcone

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The sockets might be made in France by Facom (although I'm doubtful), but they definitely aren't made the same as Facom. I own both and the finish, design, and fit (on the ratchet) are notably different.

For whatever it might be worth, I think they might have a closer association with Bost than Facom-they both use the same dimpled pattern.

I'm not so much doubting that they're functional and maybe even reasonably durable, but I'm not at all impressed with the finish. Not just the pieces that are flawed, bur even the "good" bits look cheap next to some better quality items. I'll try and get some pics when time permits.

Off the top of my head, from the Britool Expert range, I have the 1/2" metric rail, the 1/4" metric rail, the mixed female torx rail, a set of hex bit sockets, and a 61-piece 3/8" set in a case. All brand new and for sale if you're keen :)

For comparison of sockets, I have a large selection of Facom and Halfords and older Britool (stuff from the red and blue packaging, pre-Expert) along with some Ko-ken, Toptul even stuff from Aldi and Lidl (and even that I'd rate a better quality of finish).

Then there's the issue of product support from Britool -which as mentioned seems non-existant.

I could have decided to keep the Expert stuff I have and just live with it. I may never have had any real issues. I wouldn't have been happy though, knowing that I could have spent similar or less money on better quality Halfords tools and been able to exchange them in my local store if I had any issues.

I have this socket set: http://uk.farnell.com/britool-exper...v-metric-26pc/dp/1889834?Ntt=Britool+E032900B and as COO it's marked France.
Ratchet is definately Taiwan: http://uk.farnell.com/britool-exper.../dp/1889890?in_merch=true&MER=i-9b10-00001460
I'll be keeping mine because it's a compact socket set, easy to store around the house in the absence of a garage but I'm not specifically keen on buying more Britool. Pelase post pics of yout tools' defects
 
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willhollin

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I have this socket set: http://uk.farnell.com/britool-exper...v-metric-26pc/dp/1889834?Ntt=Britool+E032900B and as COO it's marked France.
Ratchet is definately Taiwan: http://uk.farnell.com/britool-exper.../dp/1889890?in_merch=true&MER=i-9b10-00001460
I'll be keeping mine because it's a compact socket set, easy to store around the house in the absence of a garage but I'm not specifically keen on buying more Britool. Pelase post pics of yout tools' defects

What are the dimensions of that 1/4" Britool set please?
 

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Hello everyone!

My name is Stefan and I'm from Bulgaria. I'm 29 and I work as a security installer (I think that's how you call someone who installs burglar alarms, fire alarms, CCTV, access control). I work also as an electrician (part-time).
I really like this thread and that's the reason why I joined "The Garage Journal". Hopefully I'll find other useful information here, but for now this is my most favorite thread here.
 

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OK, pics of my Britool Expert stuff as promised. Please excuse my poor photography skills. The tools in all of these pics are all new and unused.

Here's an example of really bad chrome. I have a lot like this in the set - most are probably not quite as bad, but there may be a couple that are slightly worse as well.

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Here's an comparison of Britool, Britool Expert, and Facom 3/8" 17mm sockets. The Expert socket is obviously 12pt, but without breaking open a blister pack of sockets it's the best I can do. Left to right are Britool (pre-Expert stuff from the red/blue packaging, but not the old made-in-england variety), Britool Expert, and Facom.

The Britool is a satin finish (really nice actually), the Export and the Facom are polished chrome. It's hard to photograph chrome, but in person, next to the Facom the Expert chrome looks thin and sort of plasticy. It's also a noticably different colour -more silvery/white - not commenting on whether that aspect is good or bad, but it's definitely different.

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Here you can see a slight flaw on the chrome of the Expert socket
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Hello everyone!

My name is Stefan and I'm from Bulgaria. I'm 29 and I work as a security installer (I think that's how you call someone who installs burglar alarms, fire alarms, CCTV, access control). I work also as an electrician (part-time).
I really like this thread and that's the reason why I joined "The Garage Journal". Hopefully I'll find other useful information here, but for now this is my most favorite thread here.

Привет Стефан.

Hi, Stefan. Welcome to the forum
 

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I haven't posted lately--very busy summer--but of course I have been keeping up with you all! :D Here are a two 27 mm Bacho combination wrenches I found today for use with 1/2" BSPP (G-thread) hydraulic fittings we use in the air lines in the garden shed. View attachment 197397 These wrenches are made in Argentina and cost $4.50 US--about 3.67 Euros--for both! :thumbup: View attachment 197398We have never needed 27 mm wrenches for anything else but these fittings.
View attachment 197400 Nonetheless, it's always nice to have good feeling wrenches even for occasional use.
Angoo-ey happy! :eek:

Nice price for the wrenches!:eyecrazy: Did you buy them in a store?
The price in a store here in Sweden for one 27mm is 30-34 Euro.
I like them alot even if they come from Argentina. I think the quality is great!
Tnx for pics...
 

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I'm not sure where that Britool Expert stuff is coming from but I will be avoiding it!

http://www.tona.cz/

Looks like the "Expert" brand is used elsewhere too!

Finest example of globalization, you offer the same China/Taiwan produced tools to all the world under local brand names previously purchased and devoided of their own portfolio in order to keep a healty profit margin.
Thank you Stanley! NOT
 

CanUK

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What are the dimensions of that 1/4" Britool set please?

If you're looking for a compact 1/4" drive set, have a look at the Facom Nano. They do a few different versions, based around the R.360 and RL.161 ratchet. I have the RL.161 version, but I also have the R.360 ratchet which fits the same case(see pic beow). I suppose you might be able to retro-fit the round-head ratchet as well, but I don't have one to try:

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Both ratchets are small, but there's a large difference in head-size:
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The list price for these is a bit silly, but they come up for <£60 which is a bit more reasonable. I got (quite) lucky and found this one new for <£30, but I haven't seen them for that low since.

There's decent looking Bahco sets on ebay for around £20, but not sure about actual size or quality as I haven't seen one in person.
 

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What are the dimensions of that case CanUK?

I've already got three of these in various locations!

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But it doesn't fit in a particular tool bag pocket! :(

Might be cheaper to change the tool bag. :headscrat
 

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If you're looking for a compact 1/4" drive set, have a look at the Facom Nano. They do a few different versions, based around the R.360 and RL.161 ratchet. I have the RL.161 version, but I also have the R.360 ratchet which fits the same case(see pic beow). I suppose you might be able to retro-fit the round-head ratchet as well, but I don't have one to try:

SUPER set
 

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Cheers, should fit, off to trawl the internet. :D

Sent you a PM that *might* save you some time.

I forget where I got mine from, but I think what happened was they advertised an old special/intro price (was around £30). I placed orders at that price with a few online sellers, but only one place bothered to fill the order even though they had to order it in themselves (I had to wait a few weeks).
 
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Do you have some pics of the creeper and your workshop ? :)

here we go :) The only mountings I had were way too large but I already had them and didn´t want to shop some new ones.

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Cheap creeper bought from Lidl and its already broken after 1 year of use. Probably have to repair it one day.

A small pic of one side of the workshop. It just shows frequently used tools plus maybe 30% of the chemicals that I have in stock :D
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Had a short trip to germany today and was a bit pissed that my hazet order wasnt already there :( so I only picked up alot of other stuff, these carolus combination spanners and some transfer punches :
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my mother and some tools in action :D :D
She wants to use this old bucket as another composter in the garden and needed some holes so I told her to drill some holes with the 10mm drillbit and later to switch to the conical drill for bigger holes.

Gave her the machine with the 10mm bit went into the garage and later retured wanting help her change to the conical drill when this dialog happened:

"Oh you already changed the bit by yourself?"
-"Of course am I a dummie or what?" :D
 

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Hello again!
I made a few pics of the tools I use as a security installer/electrician. I own tools from several brands - KNIPEX, USAG, NWS, GEDORE, UNIOR, WERA, BAHCO and some others.
I prefer buying 1000V VDE insulated tools because of the electrical work i do, but not all of my tools are VDE.
Starting with my favorite brand of pliers - KNIPEX. I own few of these. I personally like them better than NWS.

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My NWS pliers. I like the cable shears on the right.
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Браво Стефка. Радвам се да видя още един българин в тоя сайт! :rocker::rocker: Very good tools! ;)
 

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I work with USAG too and i think this company make the best tools for electricity work in Europe.
 

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Hello again!
I made a few pics of the tools I use as a security installer/electrician. I own tools from several brands - KNIPEX, USAG, NWS, GEDORE, UNIOR, WERA, BAHCO and some others.
I prefer buying 1000V VDE insulated tools because of the electrical work i do, but not all of my tools are VDE.
Starting with my favorite brand of pliers - KNIPEX. I own few of these. I personally like them better than NWS.

KNIPEX%20VDE%20Tools%20-%20002.jpg

KNIPEX%20Pliers%20-%20002.jpg


My NWS pliers. I like the cable shears on the right.
NWS%20Pliers%20-%20001.jpg
Quality names but I can't see the pictures.
 

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I work with USAG too and i think this company make the best tools for electricity work in Europe.

USAG, Knipex and Wiha all make excellent vde tools, it is more a personal preference. I have used all and can not say one is better then the other. I prefer wiha for the finish on their vde tools. But it is not a better tool then knipex or USAG.
 
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Mitkoasd

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I say this because i often work with Unior Tona and USAG and i dont have any observation on Knipex Wiha and NWS...
P.S. for me photos are visible.
 

mr_jack

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Hello everyone!

I had troubles last night uploading my pics and I'm trying a different domain now. I just wanna ask is the following picture visible?

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mr_jack

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As I was saying last night ...

KNIPEX, USAG, NWS, GEDORE, UNIOR, WERA, BAHCO - these are the brands of tools I like and own.
I prefer buying 1000V VDE insulated tools because of the electrical work i do, but not all of my tools are VDE.

Starting with my favorite brand of pliers - KNIPEX. I own few of these. I personally like them better than NWS.

KNIPEX_Pliers_001.jpg

KNIPEX_VDE_Tools_002.jpg

KNIPEX_Pliers_002.jpg


My NWS pliers. I like the cable shears on the right. They are very good for cutting thick cables.
The diagonal cutters/strippers in the middle are not so good. After short usage they started wobbling.

NWS_Pliers_001.jpg
 

mr_jack

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USAG

My very first set of quality tools:

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The second screwdriver on the left is VDE insulated PH2. I don't know why i bought it, cause I don't use it. I use the other three.

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Tips of the two on the right - PZB/SE2 - pozidriv & slotted - for the fuses in electrical cabinets.

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Some screwdrivers

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Nice scissors

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