Tools from the old world

[shoturtle]

Well Bosch is bring out one of there new 18v tools in the US. Their new lower torque impactor. Now available at Lowes.

 

[JayL]

new Makita 18 volt orbital sander:

I wonder how long will one battery full charge last.

 

[CanUK]

Couple more small bits from ebay:

Got a couple pairs of these from the Gedore guys in Skipton for about £8 shipped.

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Koken 1/4" ratcheting adapter (attach to an extension, 1/4" driver or T-bar etc). This was another ebay typo!

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[Monte]

New Facom knife.....Monte, why are these so expensive ($232 list price) ?? These are Georg Jensen silver prices....SD

in Europe it´s much cheaper (around €120.-). Maybe it´s a limited production run tool (?) or because it´s made from (drop forged ?) stainless steel ? or maybe it´s made in france ? Hence the price ?
Or simply because the competitors in the knife market are expensive too ?
http://www.boker.de/taschenmesser/boeker/special-run.html

I wonder how long will one battery full charge last.

good question. From what i read about cordless angle grinders and recip saws i guess not too long...







my new el cheapo plasma cutter:

 

[Alx]

my new el cheapo plasma cutter:

Monte,

Please give some feedback re CUT 40 plasma cutter when you have a chance. I was looking at one on ebay this morning but have no clue if they are any good. May have some welding project going on soon and not very keen on cutting a few large 5mm steel plates with an angle grinder.

Thanks.

 

[CanUK]

Monte,

Please give some feedback re CUT 40 plasma cutter when you have a chance. I was looking at one on ebay this morning but have no clue if they are any good. May have some welding project going on soon and not very keen on cutting a few large 5mm steel plates with an angle grinder.

Thanks.

Or you could get the big 9" Metabo grinder from Costco for £90

 

[mr_jack]

Some new acquisitions:

KNIPEX:

Some words about the KNIPEX 13 86 200:
I got them 'cause they looked very good at first glance, but the thing is that there's no such thing as a multifunctional tool. Such is the case here too. They look excellent in the new Knipex video that Monte posted a few days ago, but when you start using them for real you'll see that you won't be smiling like the guy in the commercial.
These pliers work best as cable shears and needle nose pliers.
The cutting edges are for copper and aluminum cables only. Cutting steel will damage them. Actually on the back of the handles is written "Do not cut steel".
The jaws are not wide enough to grab 3 or 4 wires and twist them. For that you need combination or lineman's pliers.
Next ... the stripping part is buried way too deep into the jaws and it's not comfortable to strip wires in tight spaces.
The outer edges all the way to "Crimp" and "0,5-2,5"are sharp so you can wide holes in plastic. That's useful.

So ... the bottom line is - these pliers 13 86 200 cost about 50-55 euro.
A pair of VDE long nose pliers like 26 16 200 cost around 30 euro. The 95 16 165 cable shears cost 40-45 euro, so I think the price is great.

But remember 13 86 200 can't replace a pair of diagonal cutters like 74 06 180 and combination pliers like 01 06 190.

 

[jalfaro]

A while ago no comment (but I do not miss any days reviewing the blog ), not many tools from the old world (some from Snapon posted in the thread: Show your new tool ...)

A couple bahco knives, but I have a question, ¿this knives are manufactured by MORA?, in Harry Epstein's Site have similar one (in fact, is identical, but I don't know much about knives and brand's)



http://store.harryepstein.com/cp/MoraKnivesKnifeSwedish/11824.html

Greetings to all

 

[Phobo]

I wonder how long will one battery full charge last.

they say 40min runtime on the lowest setting

 

[mr_jack]

Some other new tools for my toolbox:

 

[Alx]

Or you could get the big 9" Metabo grinder from Costco for £90

I may as it looks like plasma cutters need air supply to run. With all this extra equipment my work bench will not have any place for the toolbox! LOL

 

[Nocturnal-G]

Just got these in... Wiha/Heyco E-Torx and a Wera Zyklop ratchet.

 

[TjoFrasse]

A while ago no comment (but I do not miss any days reviewing the blog ), not many tools from the old world (some from Snapon posted in the thread: Show your new tool ...)

A couple bahco knives, but I have a question, ¿this knives are manufactured by MORA?, in Harry Epstein's Site have similar one (in fact, is identical, but I don't know much about knives and brand's)

Yes, those are Mora (Frost) designed. Similar knife to http://www.frosts.se/morakniv/craftline-topq-allround-50.0.141.2?group=prod_prod_grp-s1/39

 

[marcone]

Those Unior hex handles are great, got a 6mm in my bike's tool bag and it's most usefull if you're trying to work on deeply recessed or snug screws.

 

[Rusik]

Drill. 2 speeds. USSR
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[lok]

Local buy? And I think we can handle a few action pics.

Yes, I bought all my tools locally.

Action pics soon.

ps: nice wrench set

Thanks man.

Lok, I'll let you be the German Gedore guy of the forum. I'll be the South African Gedore guy of the forum then.

Deal!

But I'm from Greece.

Couple more small bits from ebay:

Got a couple pairs of these from the Gedore guys in Skipton for about £8 shipped.


Koken 1/4" ratcheting adapter (attach to an extension, 1/4" driver or T-bar etc). This was another ebay typo!

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Can you please take a photo with the adapter attached on the T-bar? I'm interesting about it and I'm curious how big is it.

Just got these in... Wiha/Heyco E-Torx and a Wera Zyklop ratchet.

Oww.. You already bought it. Well done! This is very nice ratchet plus ratcheting screwdriver.
Do you know if is this serviceable?






An NOS gedore No6 with different finish. The white balance in the photo is not the best but you can see that it haven't the same mat finish with the new ones.

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[CanUK]

Can you please take a photo with the adapter attached on the T-bar? I'm interesting about it and I'm curious how big is it.

Will do. All locked up tonight, but I'll aim for tomorrow. He's listed another one BTW

 

[lok]

I decided to buy a corded drill. I think that this is nice for general use. Any suggestions? Can I take any better with a price close to this one? I want it mainly for drilling in steel and some time in concrete but how good is it for screwing? I know that the cordless are better for screwing but the next in the line is a small Angle Grinder so for a lot of time I have to do everything with this.

http://www.bosch-professional.com/gb/en/ocs/tools/101356/9787/impact-drills/gsb-13-re/

 

[lok]

Will do. All locked up tonight, but I'll aim for tomorrow. He's listed another one BTW

Ok. Thanks.

 

[Rusik]

I decided to buy a corded drill. I think that this is nice for general use. Any suggestions? Can I take any better with a price close to this one? I want it mainly for drilling in steel and some time in concrete but how good is it for screwing? I know that the cordless are better for screwing but the next in the line is a small Angle Grinder so for a lot of time I have to do everything with this.
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gsb-13-re This model is made in Russia

 

[BJ42LX]

I picked these up for a buck at a garage sale. No brand name on them but I'm pretty sure it's the only tool I have "Made in Western Germany" - i.e. prior to reunification.

They are a decent set of pliers....

 

[CanUK]

Ok. Thanks.

Here you go. Pictured with 100mm extension, 13mm socket:

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And with 1/4" drive handle and 13mm socket:

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[Nocturnal-G]

Oww.. You already bought it. Well done! This is very nice ratchet plus ratcheting screwdriver.
Do you know if is this serviceable?

Thank you! It is non serviceable... sealed head. I'm sure if it needs servicing, I can return to Wera for another one. They come with a limited lifetime warranty.

 

[Alfajuj]

Hi guys,

Anybody knows what Hazet warranty is like when it comes to chrome chipping? Some of my sockets, extensions and a breaker bar are less then 1 year old but already have chrome peel/chip around the corners and edges. I'm a DYI'er/hobbyist not a pro wrench so the items have only seen very light occasional use. I've been building my mostly Hazet tool collection for a almost year now and I'm somewhat disappointed with the finish giving up so early! I emailed the dealer but thought I'd ask here too.

Thanks.

I'm equally disappointed with my Hazet sockets. The sliding T came brand new with an area the size of a dime with no chrome. Some of the sockets with very light use began to lose their chrome on the edges. My 10mm 600N wrench has a large nick on the open end edge from light use. What's the story? Is Hazet quality just a myth? Are we all in denial???

I've got Snap-On sockets and wrenches that are 60 years old with thousands of hours of hard professional use that are still in excellent condition. (I inherited them from my great-grandfather who was a professional technician)
My Stahlwille, Gegore and Snap-On tools seem to be a lot more durable.

 

[bart1]

Wow, no issue with my Hazet chrome, either ones I bought new or used.

 

[Alx]

I sent some pictures back to my supplier and they forwarded them to Hazet. I'm yet to hear of the outcome but will update here on my findings.

 

[jalfaro]

Yes, those are Mora (Frost) designed. Similar knife to http://www.frosts.se/morakniv/craftline-topq-allround-50.0.141.2?group=prod_prod_grp-s1/39

Thanks for the tip!!!

I'm equally disappointed with my Hazet sockets. The sliding T came brand new with an area the size of a dime with no chrome. Some of the sockets with very light use began to lose their chrome on the edges. My 10mm 600N wrench has a large nick on the open end edge from light use. What's the story? Is Hazet quality just a myth? Are we all in denial???

I've got Snap-On sockets and wrenches that are 60 years old with thousands of hours of hard professional use that are still in excellent condition. (I inherited them from my great-grandfather who was a professional technician)
My Stahlwille, Gegore and Snap-On tools seem to be a lot more durable.

Wow, no issue with my Hazet chrome, either ones I bought new or used.

mmm Is strange, I agree with bart1, I have a couple of hazet wrenches and ratchets and they are like new, and I worked with this brand since I was a child and although the finish are not as nice as Snapon or Nepros, the quality is execellent.

Although, always exists the posibility that a wrench come with defects, but I think than this is not the rule

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Interesting, how old are this drill?

Just got these in... Wiha/Heyco E-Torx and a Wera Zyklop ratchet.

I have the 1/2 version, is a very good ratchet, but is most useful the 3/8 version, because IMO the ratcheting screwdriver modality is more versatil in this size

 

[Rusik]

Interesting, how old are this drill?

I do not know. Yesterday I gave a friend. I took for a collection

 

[Wesku]

why not so nice ?
which Snap-On tools do you own ?
ps: right tool for the job nothing breaks ...




non existent. Never read or heard anything about them. Seem to be the OEM of a couple of brands like Merox, Black + Decker, Champion, Famex, Fcw-Cukiso, LSR-Tools etc. though...
i don´t know . Can´t say much...

they had a nice booth at the hardware fair though

That´s ok !!!! Thanks !!!!!!






Some pics of a Stahlwille tool box from one of the garage buddies:

I have identical Stahlwille tool box, which needs new bearings and stoppers for drawers. Can I find them somewhere?

 

[lok]

gsb-13-re This model is made in Russia

Not in Switzerland?

Here you go. Pictured with 100mm extension, 13mm socket:

That's nice. It's a little bulky but not much. Thank you very much buddy.
I might buy one if I find it in a good price, since I use my 1/4 a lot. Or maybe this..

Or this.

But the ratcheting adapter can be used also with a screwdriver as you posted, or with a 1/4 breaker bar.

So..

Ouff...

Thank you! It is non serviceable... sealed head. I'm sure if it needs servicing, I can return to Wera for another one. They come with a limited lifetime warranty.

Ok thanks.





I don't have a mini bit ratchet but this combination have save my *** a few times.

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So then I bought this.

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Tools in action as I promised.
But not much, sorry for that.

Classical case..
Breaking lose the upper strut nut.
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Continued with the ratchet cause the nut has a locking elastic ring.

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Ended up with the hand. The extensions has nice knurling as the socket and that helps a lot.

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Very nice.

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Also very handy in situations like this.

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Not real action pic. Τhe buck up wrench wasn't necessary, but you can see the hand friendly round beam.

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[zuspiel]

Great action shots!

 

[Rusik]

Not in Switzerland?

Alas. no
is here http://www.saratov.bosch.ru/

 

[CanUK]

That's nice. It's a little bulky but not much. Thank you very much buddy.

No trouble at all. I figure -it's not so bad at the top of an extension where it's out of the way, and it only cost about £5 +shipping

That's really nice also - I could be persuaded to buy one if they're not expensive

...Lots of pics....

Wow looks great! I have a set of Facom (of course!) ratcheting stubbies with the bit-adapter. I also have a dedicated Facom bit ratchet. The bit ratchet is very handy (I built a shed with it!), but I think the larger stubby with adapter would probably be a bit stronger.

I love the offset screwdrivers! I've only seen small photos of the Gedore ones - and it's hard to appreciate when you can't see the detail. I have a few German-made Format versions (look to be the same as the Wiha offering) - just the slot version as I can't find either the philips or pozi by Format or Wiha for anything close to a reasonable price.

 

[bart1]

...Tools in action as I promised.
But not much, sorry for that.
...

Thanks for the action pics. I have some Stahlwille shallow offset and a Hazet deep offset wrench. Gedore looks more like the Hazet. the Stahl has the I-Beam profile and is very light due to this.

My bit ratchet, ratcheting screwdriver, etc. It's a Husky, made in Taiwan by Reverse Gear:

 

[Monte]

Monte,

Please give some feedback re CUT 40 plasma cutter when you have a chance. I was looking at one on ebay this morning but have no clue if they are any good. May have some welding project going on soon and not very keen on cutting a few large 5mm steel plates with an angle grinder.

Thanks.

i will do, i have to try out different materials and thickness.

Some new acquisitions:

thanks for your review !

I decided to buy a corded drill. I think that this is nice for general use. Any suggestions? Can I take any better with a price close to this one? I want it mainly for drilling in steel and some time in concrete but how good is it for screwing? I know that the cordless are better for screwing but the next in the line is a small Angle Grinder so for a lot of time I have to do everything with this.

for the price you won´t find anything better... or go with lower quality like B+D.....but thats not really an option

I have identical Stahlwille tool box, which needs new bearings and stoppers for drawers. Can I find them somewhere?

the slides are most likely not made by Stahlwille so i would remove one and look if there is a brand name on the slide or shop for a similar one.

Not in Switzerland?

no
the lower priced drills are from Russia nowadays.
The first series of the GSB 13 was made in switzerland but thats years and years ago....

For "Made in Germany" + cheap there would be a Kress 550 SBLR-1
http://www.kress-elektrik.com/Power...ce_pi1[catUid]=33&tx_commerce_pi1[showUid]=39









Gedore 18mm open end wrench i bought for the drill press vise:



in action

 

[mrtools]

The strap wrench is the best I have seen. I have one and it is nothing but frustrating and mostly a toy. This one is heavy duty and the poly coated nylon should grip well. The bit holder is nice and a good match for my stubby I have had for some time.

you right most of the strap wrench in the market now not as tough as we expect, your Hazet looks really tough for professional use I'm sure it can handle the heavy duty tasks.
btw: nice looking Hazet classic handle bits drivers!

Definitely German made.

nice impact driver!!!

I use my toolbag mostly for chemicals. But I also have some tools different from the others in the toolbox, like this long screwdriver.
One old orbis insulated plier, my favorite Fit, cheap scissor and this old gedore T-handle which work only with cheater bar. (My breaker bar sadly doesn't arrived yet).
Organizer.
Gloves, tapes, glasses, brushes rags, and other..
Inches and metric allen keys not from force..

Thanks for the stories and awesome pics..really nice bag load with nice tools

"In action"

of course!

Nice pictures as always.
Which one do you like the most? I mean Which handle is the most convenient for you? Can you take a foto side by side.

Thanks!
honestly..Zebra is the most comfortable to my hand the Ergonic good too but it just not perfect to me I think
sure I will take some photo later..
where do you bought your Wurth Zebra, it easy to purchased Wurth tools in Greece, still remember the actual prices

yeah looks good ! (make note on wish list )

OK...

nice pics btw. do you work at work too or just take pictures ?

most of the Wurth pics I'm really do my works.. but for the Felo, I'm just take the pics

a little insight of Fein power tools production:

interesting video thanks to share

A few more spanners today - nearly a full house now

Awesome Facom goodies!!
the most beautiful combination wrenches I think!
btw: congratulation for the France made fast wrenches nowaday it hard to get the France made wrenches

Bahco saw bought at a local store. All made in Sweden.

Awesome Swedish made saw..old stock?

Now I definitely became the Gedore guy of the forum.

sure you are Gedore guy
Great looking wrenches!! awesome pics thanks to shared

Action shots will be follow. (If you want).

as you know we all love pics

my new el cheapo plasma cutter:

Awesome machine..
that all package accessories for el cheapo plasma cutter included air regulator, Festo air regulator?
"in action" pics or video if you already works with it please

Some new acquisitions:

Thanks to share your opinion about Knipex pliers..
congratulation nice tools + awesome pics shot

Just got these in... Wiha/Heyco E-Torx and a Wera Zyklop ratchet.

nice set the most intelligent ratchet I think, how do you like Zyklop ratchet?

An NOS gedore No6 with different finish. The white balance in the photo is not the best but you can see that it haven't the same mat finish with the new ones.

Awesome that truly Gedore guy
can you take a pics of your new No.6 and the old one?

I decided to buy a corded drill. I think that this is nice for general use. Any suggestions? Can I take any better with a price close to this one? I want it mainly for drilling in steel and some time in concrete but how good is it for screwing? I know that the cordless are better for screwing but the next in the line is a small Angle Grinder so for a lot of time I have to do everything with this.

if you decided to purchase electric drill maybe you should check this
Metabo SBE610

not sure this one comes with the same prices tags or maybe a little bit expensive compare to .as I know the old Metabo SBE610 said made in Germany
I think it the good for money and a great choice for someone who is looking a "multi-task" hand drill
don't know the newer comes from, maybe China? anyone here have an answer?

I don't have a mini bit ratchet but this combination have save my *** a few times.

That a great solution..

So then I bought this.

..and the better

Tools in action as I promised.
But not much, sorry for that.

Awesome Tools in action pics
thanks buddy!!!

Gedore 18mm open end wrench i bought for the drill press vise:
in action

 

[TjoFrasse]

Some new acquisitions:

Some words about the KNIPEX 13 86 200:

Thanks for the review! I have been looking at them so it's always good to hear someones impression.

Here you go. Pictured with 100mm extension, 13mm socket:

It's sure is cool. But can't really see myself using it instead of a T-handle or driver handle with ratcheting built in. It does add a bit of bulk and weight.

Tools in action as I promised.
But not much, sorry for that.

Nice action pics. VW Golf MK3? Or is it a Vento/Jetta?

My bit ratchet, ratcheting screwdriver, etc. It's a Husky, made in Taiwan by Reverse Gear:

That looks like a good bit ratchet.

Regarding bit ratchets, I use the Bahco 2058s26 set, and really can recommend it. I like it so much I bought 2 (one for home and one for the garage). It's made in Taiwan, and the bits are not as good as some top brands, but the ratcheting is great and the price is good. I'm sure the same ratchet/kit can be found from other brands also.

 

[CanUK]

It's sure is cool. But can't really see myself using it instead of a T-handle or driver handle with ratcheting built in. It does add a bit of bulk and weight.

Lots of reasons to not want one, but bulk and weight? This thing is tiny - I thought Sweden was full of big strong guys?

I can actually see it maybe being most useful in a portable kit - when I need the strength of a t-bar, and I need a ratchet -but now I don't need to also pack a ratchet.

Mostly I bought it thought because it was cheap, and it was Koken

It's good to have options though - If I spot a nice ratcheting t-handle or driver for anything close to the price of this I will snap those up as well

 

[CanUK]

btw: congratulation for the France made fast wrenches nowaday it hard to get the France made wrenches

Thanks - a couple in that set (14mm and 15mm I think, from memory) are from my non-France set as they were missing. I keep my eyes on ebay for some French ones though.

if you decided to purchase electric drill maybe you should check this
Metabo SBE610
...
...
not sure this one comes with the same prices tags or maybe a little bit expensive compare to .as I know the old Metabo SBE610 said made in Germany
I think it the good for money and a great choice for someone who is looking a "multi-task" hand drill
don't know the newer comes from, maybe China? anyone here have an answer?

I have this drill. Bought mine on ebay lightly used for around £30. New I think is around £80. I think it probably is made in China (the label only says "D-72622 Nurtingen, Made by Metabo"), but it's an excellent drill- smooth, plenty of power, easy to control and nicely balanced. It has a quality feel even if it is made in China. I suspect it would be hard to do much better for similar money.

 

[TjoFrasse]

Lots of reasons to not want one, but bulk and weight? This thing is tiny - I thought Sweden was full of big strong guys?

I can actually see it maybe being most useful in a portable kit - when I need the strength of a t-bar, and I need a ratchet -but now I don't need to also pack a ratchet.

Mostly I bought it thought because it was cheap, and it was Koken

It's good to have options though - If I spot a nice ratcheting t-handle or driver for anything close to the price of this I will snap those up as well

What I meant is that on 1/4" stuff, I see size and balance as very important, and bulk at the end often is bad for both. But yeah, I see that it was a bit funny thing to say.

I'm not strong though, I'm a computer programmer...

Buying something because it's a quality at a low price I understand fully though. I would absolutely do the same! And if it is something I don't have, even better. Was just saying that I don't see the adapter as a optimal solution.