Tools from the old world

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

In fact I'll give you these as well! Bernstein tools were mentioned by somebody right at the beginning of the thread. They do seem to be geared towards the electronic field more than anything else, so most of there tools are a little too small for my requirements - they look great though so decided to buy them. Especially like the amber colored acetate handles.

 

[Monte]

Nice locking pliers but aren't they made in the new world?

The design is from the old world With the release lever the right way

@jacko:
interesting tools ! We only had a few insulated tools in this thread until now. Do you have also insulated pliers etc. ? Please post more !

@superautobacs:
nice looking ratchet !! It looks italian i like the direction selector. (Here`s more info on this type of ratchet click )
The punches look good too. ps: why not PB swiss ? They make something similar . Is the craze over ?

 

[american lockpicker]

So can I put my USA made tools on here?

 

[superautobacs]

Monte,

I think the direction lever is what catches most people's attention when they see this ratchet. It takes some effort to switch the directional lever, and I say that in a good way.
Nice, low profile head design as well. The audible 'clicks' are confidence inspiring as well...IMO anyway.

I gonna wait until PB comes out with the nano-coating on their entire lineup.

 

[Monte]

So can I put my USA made tools on here?

If the design is made in the old world , the tools are made of steel from the old world or the founder of the tool company is from the old world then yes. So basically you can post everything here


@superautobacs:
surfed around a bit....
Found some pics of the older styles. The ratchet with the chrome plated square drive also has a chrome "head" , the black square drive have a black "head" (so thats 1 piece i guess). Also they look glossy. On the breaker bar you can see "Italy". So maybe the glossy ones and also the ratchets with chrome square drive are also from italy ?? (because of the earlier discussion here)

The PB nano coating looks cool huh !

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

Monte: Yes, I've got several Knipex pliers which have had good use. I'll post them tomorrow. I've also got some Facom insulated pliers which have barely been used, I'll get them up some time as well.

Here's a Unior insulated socket set which I managed to get hold of about a month back.

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

And some more.

God, that carpets filthy.

 

[superautobacs]

Monte,

Thanks for the surfin' around
Those pictured ones do seem to have a 'deeper' shine on them. ...but looks can be deceiving.
Interesting...."Italy" was once stamped onto the beam, but now they aren't--I wonder what the reason is? ...the handle?
Talking about this reminds me of that thread about the "USA" not being on the F80.

 

[Monte]

@Jacko:
thanks for the pics ! The tools look really nice !! I like the Unior ratchet with the left/right push buttons !

Look what i found in the Gedore catalog:

Looks like the Unior ratchet (or vice versa )


@superautobacs:
yeah first the Snap-on F80 now the Beta 910/55Q ........
send it to me and I will dispose it properly into my toolbox

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

Monte: Normally a conventional ratchet is taken and dipped in PVC insulation, but these newer ratchets have a specifically moulded hard plastic body instead. Unior, Gedore and Friedrich all sell these ratchets now which seem to be of identical shape and proportion. I wouldn't be surprised if there made in the same factory.

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

Aforementioned Knipex pliers.

And try and guess which brand this is? I'll post the rest of the set later.

 

[Monte]

yes thats right the Friedrich looks the same. I`ll shoot them a email and ask who is the real manufacturer

http://www.klaus-friedrich.com/

The pliers look like you already used them any complaints yet ??

Thats difficult , I`m not that into VDE tools but i guess because of the "see-through" insulation of the ratchet that it is a "Belzer" ratchet maybe ??

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

Correct!! It was a real find (on ebay like everything else you've seen), no doubt not made any more and despite probably being the best part of 20 years old it had never been used. The ratchet says 'Germany' so I presume it's post reunification but I'm sure I've seen West German tools before branded as such. The only other such set I've seen was on German Ebay at the 'buy it now' price of 151 Euro's. I got this for £25.

Pictures not too great but but it says 'Belzer 8150 VDE'.

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

For some reason it's got two 24mm sockets, but I'm not complaining.

The obligatory Belzer screwdriver which came with the set.

The Unior set was picked up for £41. It normally retails for well over £200.

Knipex are Knipex, there's hardly ever anything to complain about.

 

[Chreese]

Servus, Monte,

Do the Atorn hammer say "Osca" on the head ??

Yes, it actually does.

Some screwdrivers with translucent handles at your and superautobacs' pleasure:

Greetings from Europe,

Chreese

 

[Monte]

100 points for me
wow that`s a beautiful insulated ratchet !! I never would use it !! It`s a piece of history ! Good prices too !! The Belzer screwdrivers still have a large fanbase here and considered some of the best screwdrivers ever.

@chreese: thanks for the pics and the info about the hammer !!
I really really like the blue Felo screwdriver !!! What brand is the screwdriver on the left of the blue Felo ??

reason i was asking about the hammer is that i have this "Garant" hammer (with the blue/orange handle) which is from "Osca" too. Also some "Promat" hammers look like Osca. Some "Lux" hammers from the OBI store are also from Osca. The hammer in the 2nd pic (in the middle) which is also from Osca is also available from Promat (in blue), Elora (in yellow) and Würth.

 

[Chreese]

Servus,

I haven't paid much attention to the various hammers available. As a consequence, I can't comment on these products.

I really really like the blue Felo screwdriver !!!

I'm sorry to disappoint you: I don't have a second Felo screwdriver with a blue handle.

What brand is the screwdriver on the left of the blue Felo ??

Stubai.

Latest additions to the screwdriver collection: Witte Protop II Impact (I know, nothing fancy and you already own a set.)

ECE handplanes:

Chreese

 

[The Motts]

Some of my tools from the old world:

Monte, what do you know about these pliers?:

 

[Monte]

I'm sorry to disappoint you: I don't have a second Felo screwdriver with a blue handle.

what a pity ! Then i have to look out on my own

Latest additions to the screwdriver collection: Witte Protop II Impact (I know, nothing fancy and you already own a set.)

@themotts:
thanks for the post ! Didn`t know that they still make the cordless hammer drills here. I thought only the corded ones.

The pliers were also offered by "Gedore" (#136P). On a website from india they still show them. I believe the original manufacturer of the CK brand pliers was "Wezag" Couldn`t find any patent info though.

Both pics from Gedore:

On the "Wezag" website you`ll find the locking pliers pictured on top. When i called Wezag they said they also make the parallel pliers for Gedore (pliers in the middle). The last pliers seem to be from Wezag too. They all look different but the adjustment screw looks always the same. They also rivet most of the pliers upper jaws while other manufacturers weld them into place.

So i believe Wezag is the OEM for your CK pliers.

more info can be found here:
klick

ps:
I never saw those in real life. So they`re automatic adjustment pliers like the "Lockjaw" pliers ???

btw: cool pliers !!!

 

[Monte]

"Suhner" "USC-25R" die grinder 11-25.000 rpm

www.suhner-abrasive-expert.com

 

[Chreese]

Servus,

Let's begin the new year with more pics of tools from the Old World.

Bessey, Ideal and Gross Stabil clamps:

Fischer file and Bludan rasp with shop-made (by a buddy who has a woodworking lathe) handles:

Sandvik rasp/file:

Gedore, Stahlwille and Hazet sockets:

Greetings from Europe,

Chreese

 

[Monte]

nice clamps ! Did you find the Gross-Stabil clamp lately or do you own it longer ? You don`t see them here anymore since Bessey took over Gross-Stabil.
Reminds me to buy some clamps for woodworking. I think i will get me a couple of the Ideal clamps with "Vario-handle" click and these with 2-component handle:

some more file handles Not as nice as yours but unfortunately i dont have a lathe. Makes me want to buy one and make handles for files, screwdrivers, ratchets.....
Is your Blu-dan rasp hand-cut (larger pic ?) or "industrial-made" ?

 

[wolpi]

Some tools you might not see so often.

 

[Monte]

What`s that ? Piston ring pliers ? and piston insert tool ?

 

[wolpi]

Both are piston insert tools. in the middle for s54 engines or bigger bored s50 engines, the right for m5x engines.

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

Last of the socket sets. Beta this time.

 

[Monte]

nice ! The insulated ratchets etc. look somehow similar. Somewhere i read there are only 3 manufacturers in Europe who makes them.

Here is a set KTC of Japan offers. The ratchet and box looks like its from www.klaus-friedrich.com. If you look at the super sized pic here you can see "Germany" on the ratchet. The included "TestBoy" is also from germany.

KTC also offers a insulated torque wrench, you also can see "Germany" if you look here. Here`s a PDF of their 2 tool-sets and the torque wrench.

Here a pic from Klaus-Friedrich

A pic from Gedore. Different "head" but handle looks similar.

a pic from Beta

this time different color. From www.lwt.de

They always seem to have a handle/scale like this one:

so i believe the original manufacturer of the insulated torque wrenches is "ISI".
They have 8 different models of insulated torque wrenches.

Here is a different style from "Lemp"

 

[Jacko Brush Strokes]

The ratchet as a blink-and-you've-missed-it stamp for EB tools. German I presume?

 

[wizard1]

Some of my tool.

 

[wizard1]

Try again!

 

[dede2897234]

Wizard1,

Welcome to this discussion forum! I am not familiar with the availability or ease of acquiring industrial or mechanics quality tools in China. Can you please enlighten me?

How did you acquire the above German and American screwdrivers?

Did you use eBay, purchase through internet stores located in nearby countries (Hong Kong, Taiwan, Japan, New Zealand, Australia), or locally?


Thanks,

Dave

 

[wizard1]

Dave,

I can answer your question.IN China I can order some German made tools from agency,but we must wait above 30 days.Because the agency don't stock many products in their storehouse.

Sometimes I buy some us made tools(SNAP-ON,PROTO) from American ebay.

Wish everything goes well.

Bill Chou

hazet wrenches 600N 610N 450N 630

 

[Hazet]

Great collection of Hazet tools . I am working towards a collection of my own . I received the 450N (8 wrench set) for Christmas. I will be ordering the double box end set soon.

 

[wizard1]

Hazet is the strongest wrench in the world !

My 1/2 socket set.

 

[american lockpicker]

Yesterdays tool haul(except the drill).

 

[MD11]

Nice stuff Lockpicker.... Which Gerber is that?

 

[american lockpicker]

Nice stuff Lockpicker.... Which Gerber is that?

Its the MP600 Pro Scout. Mines one of the older USA made ones I paid $68 for it with tax at Granger. The Jigsaw blade I added, it originally had a Remgrit one.

 

[Monte]

@jacko:
where did you find the "EB tools " ??
anyway i found their website "EB-Sicherheitswerkzeuge" a.k.a. www.isotools.de


@wizard1:
welcome to the forum ! nice collection of tools !
i like the green "Heyco" (Felo ?) screwdrivers. The Hazet wrenches are nice too !!! I wonder if you are a DIY user or professional ?


@american lockpicker:
interesting origins of the grinding wheel and drill bit (maybe made by joran/irwin ?) !
ps: nice drill


@chreese:
received post from slovenia !

some late christmas presents from me for me

"Garant" hex keys

with metal retaining ball

Locking pliers. 145mm (around 6") and angle head style from "Bollmann"

jaws with and without teeth for gripping and as pinch off pliers.

"Garant" level

On/Off switch for the magnet

"Garant" screwdriver set PH1-3 , PB "Twister" ratcheting screwdriver, PB chisel

 

[dede2897234]

Monte,

I like all the Christmas presents you purchased for yourself! Once you put the PB Swiss "Twister" ratcheting screwdriver through some use, can you please post back your likes and dislikes of this hand tool?


Thanks,

Dave

 

[american lockpicker]

"Garant" level

On/Off switch for the magnet

Tell me more about that level. Also is it an electromagnet and how much does one cost(I must have one).