Tools from the old world

[2oolhound]

Have loads of pics, don't want to overload...

There is no such thing.

Some beautiful tools, pls show more!!!!

 

[BMWGarage]

Some tools in action. Hazet 180T-7-RAL7016/258 while installing X3 35 2014 trailer hitch.

 

[node105]

Hazet 844-4 and Hazet 88166 flex head ratchet from TBS-Aachen yesterday.

Today dropped in to HUF in Mainz-Bretzenheim. Nice store.
Would have bought a whole lot more but for baggage weight :-(

Hazet 88166 flex head ratchet from TBS-Aachen yesterday, posing with
Hazet 2567-1 bought today from HUF - air cooled VW spanner 19mm ring, 17mm hexthe first Hazet spanner I ever bought, about 35 years, was stolen along with everything else years ago. As I understood it these were out of production. So great to pick up one again, even though no use for it.

Rennsteig taper punches 424 130 0 in a metal case.

Facom spinners, thought this was Hazet (sitting on the Hazet shelf) and the price labels obscured the brand. No matter, except COO probably dubious. Each has a small magnet peened in which keep the set together; as per second pic.

And a couple of Wiha 6.0 x 300 screwdrivers for mates back in Oz.

 

[node105]

HUF were kind enough to allow me to take photos. Those of you who live in Europe will take this sort of manna from heaven for granted ( to some extent anyway). For us down under, one has to travel 18000 km to amble around such Alladin's caves.

Could have spent hours there.

Wall of Hazet. Kuko ( I forgot to get some, they were light too!). Picard.

 

[node105]

More Shots from HUF today.
Vices, a gaggle of Heuer, the Leinen is a beautiful and heavy beast.
Wiha aisle, Pferd stand, there was a lot more Pferd. Fein, Flex and some Bosch.

 

[node105]

And lastly from HUF, Festool.

 

[upgrading]

Thanks for all the nice pics.

I find this one really cool.
A gazillion drivers and Knipex in the background.

 

[superautobacs]

oodles of goodies!! What an awesome store!

Thank you for sharing those photos!

 

[SpaleHR]

@node105 thanks for pure tool ****!

 

[dutch79]

Bought 2 old welding / C-clamps (1 Mauser, 1 unknown) and a small 'Made in Germany' clamping vise (for my welding table):



By the way: Mauser is a mainly a rifle-brand
http://www.mauser.com/Home.home.0.html?&L=1
The logo corresponds:

 

[Monte]

Something more like this:

exactly

Maybe time for a folding ruler theme? Haven´t seen Adga before, now i definately need one...

Then you need a "Bauma" too
www.bauer-massstabfabrik.de

Heitu-grip (Germany)...

interesting....i thought that design was french...or japanese....

Edit: Made by Scangrip, Denmark

Do you know if they still produce in Denmark ?

Bad I guess! I thought that gedore has the same fit with stahlwille. Maybe I'm wrong.

I think the problem is not on the driver but in the socket. Τhe groove in which secures the ball is very deep and the ball does not stabilize the socket by pressing the walls.

Some of the new sockets (those with the knurling in the middle) are a little better though.

I tried a koken socket with the T-ratchet and looks a little better. When I try different drivers and socktes (facom, carolus, wurth, stahlwille, proto, allen, gedore, unior) the feeling is the same. All more or less are sloppy. But I have only a few so I can not draw reliable conclusions.

Honestly I haven't find 1/4 socket set with good fit. Some facom are even worst than gedore. Maybe the old made in france are better. Unior is nothing special either.

Edit. I have never try hazet.

Maybe the newer ones are better like you said, or maybe I just got a bad batch. Maybe i should try newer 1/4" Gedore sockets...If they have the same fitment than the brands you mentioned it would be ok. If the fitment is too good it´s difficult to remove them...

Hi all!!
I'm back to the board..
great to see more tools **** here..congratulation!!!

Welcome back again

nice tools to show your multi skills, good jobs

Thank you, the same to you !

Don't know they have this kind of tools in the market
Thanks to show us

http://www.rennsteig.com/en/product...e-punches/356-adjustable-centering-punch.html

I bought some Gedore 1/4" drive a few years back (they offer BA sizes, which some others don't) and the fit was nothing special. Get a ratchet or sliding T, add an extension and socket, and the whole assembly is really sloppy! The tools were quite thin and light too, which rather put me off Gedore!

A friend has a comprehensive set in 1/2" drive though, and has no such problems, so I think Gedore are better suited to the heavier applications!

I have some Stahlwille 1/4" drive too, in metric sizes, and have no issues with that! Really nice tools in fact, though I reckon it's worth making the effort to acquire the quick release ratchet with the all steel handle! Much more durable than the standard!

The Gedore 3/8" and 1/2" are pretty good. Maybe the newer 1/4" sockets are better like lok mentioned, or maybe there is a difference in fitment because some 1/4" sockets are cold forged and some are hot forged... ?

And the 1/4 stuff drawer with Hazet ratchet and Rahsol sockets + 1/4 screwdriver

nice tool tray !

My Black&Decker angle grinder died on my after 8 years of loyal service. Never thought it would hold out that long. As a replacement I opted for some German sweetness. Runs smooth like butter and due to the slim body, very comfortable to work with.

Nice ! With adjustable speed and constant electronic ? Looks like the 1200 Watt model ? GWS 12-125 CIE ?

And TBS Aachen, in Aachen from whom I have been buying online for a while

wow nice store !! I´ve not yet seen such large walls of tools in a store in my city...only at exhibitions...time to move to a different city

Facom spinners, thought this was Hazet (sitting on the Hazet shelf) and the price labels obscured the brand. No matter, except COO probably dubious. Each has a small magnet peened in which keep the set together; as per second pic.

iirc made in USA. Also available from Stahlwille + Beta...

Would have bought a whole lot more but for baggage weight :-(

it seems you have to come back another time to pick up more








Fein WSG 15-125 P
Features: 125mm angle grinder, 1500 Watt, soft start, constant electronics, Kick-Back stop, overload protection, 4 mtr. H07RN-F cable, toolless adjustable guard, anti vibration handle.

 

[dutch79]

The feature I miss on that Fein is a button on the bottom where your righthand indexfinger is. That's even more useful.

This one I own also has all the fancy features and is a good alternative:
http://www.bosch-pt.co.in/in/en/pro...648/angle-grinders-125-mm/gws-15-125-cih.html

 

[Krokodil]

Nice grinder Monte. How do you rate them against your Metabos, Bosches, etc.?

 

[node105]

Originally Posted by node105 View Post
Facom spinners, thought this was Hazet (sitting on the Hazet shelf) and the price labels obscured the brand. No matter, except COO probably dubious. Each has a small magnet peened in which keep the set together; as per second pic.


iirc made in USA. Also available from Stahlwille + Beta...

Ok thanks for that.
I already had them in my tool quoting database for Stahlwille

Adaptor set 409M/432M/514M/3
1/4" socket x 3/8" plug,
3/8" socket x 1/2" plug,
1/2" socket x 3/4" plug.


http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Stahlwille/Tools/Stahlwille_409M/432M/514M/3_120_Set_adaptors_3_pieces_i3324_49660.htm

http://www.weltweitwerkzeug.net/?c1...earchParam]=409M/432M/514M/3&customer_class=0

http://www.weltweitwerkzeug.net/?c1=546&c2=0&c3=0&c4=0&c5=0&ActionCall=WebActionArticleSearch&Params%5BSearchParam%5D=409M%2F432M%2F514M%2F3&customer_class=0

http://www.werkzeuggigant.com/item.php5?id=96121002&lang=en



Quote:
Originally Posted by node105 View Post
Would have bought a whole lot more but for baggage weight :-(
it seems you have to come back another time to pick up more


Well I have a 40 kg bag allowance, so I could just buy another bag
The downside is harving to lug the extra weight all over Europe. One really should make the shopping stage at the flyout point.

The other aspect of buying while on holiday, is the VAT ( c. 20%). This is refundable from many sources via 'global blue', after filling out appropriate documentation, the VAT can be reimbursed at the point of departure from the EU. There are some restrictions on minimum purchase per point of sale etc. and the seller has to be able to be a member of the scheme and provide the relevant documents; due to the nature of their business, tool suppliers are typically not part of the VAT refund scheme.

The other alternative is to buy and ship back. But the issue here is, that in order to claim the VAT refund (assuming the seller has provided the relevant documentation) the goods must be available to inspection at the point of departure from the EU and the refund processing office.

So it is actually far simpler just to order on line ( and VAT is hence not charged when buying from an external country). But, always nice to buy a few bits and pieces while away

 

[lok]

.. or maybe there is a difference in fitment because some 1/4" sockets are cold forged and some are hot forged... ?

Really? Why that? I mean why not all hot forged or cold forged?

 

[nickjj]

Footprint hammers:

 

[Monte]

The feature I miss on that Fein is a button on the bottom where your righthand indexfinger is. That's even more useful.

This one I own also has all the fancy features and is a good alternative:

it seems the Fein customers don´t need/want that style....?
i also already have a Atlas Copco "rat tail" grinder but prefer a grinder with button on top. Bosch also make nice grinders but i liked the Fein design better

Nice grinder Monte. How do you rate them against your Metabos, Bosches, etc.?

There are a couple of differences like the position of the switch, of course the design and features. Design wise for example i like the Fein the best, i prefer the switch on top of the tool (Metabo, Fein), I like the lever for the adjustable guard like Metabo has the best. But other than that there are also a lot similarities among the same price class for example features like soft start or the safety clutch (Metabo) or Kick-Back-Stop (Bosch, Fein). In case of power i can´t compare them because they are too different (800 watt - 1500 watt...) But i guess they are comparable within their power class. My advice is to take a look at them in a store.

Well I have a 40 kg bag allowance, so I could just buy another bag
The downside is harving to lug the extra weight all over Europe. One really should make the shopping stage at the flyout point.

The other aspect of buying while on holiday, is the VAT ( c. 20%). This is refundable from many sources via 'global blue', after filling out appropriate documentation, the VAT can be reimbursed at the point of departure from the EU. There are some restrictions on minimum purchase per point of sale etc. and the seller has to be able to be a member of the scheme and provide the relevant documents; due to the nature of their business, tool suppliers are typically not part of the VAT refund scheme.

The other alternative is to buy and ship back. But the issue here is, that in order to claim the VAT refund (assuming the seller has provided the relevant documentation) the goods must be available to inspection at the point of departure from the EU and the refund processing office.

So it is actually far simpler just to order on line ( and VAT is hence not charged when buying from an external country). But, always nice to buy a few bits and pieces while away

...and i thought you only need the invoice to get the VAT back ....? Ordering online also means high shipping costs every time... ...the best would be if the products would have the same (low) price everywhere...

Really? Why that? I mean why not all hot forged or cold forged?

if you look at page 7 (174) you can read that the 1/4" 6-point sockets are not hot forged. Why ? I don´t know
http://www.gedore.de/en/service/downloads_cat.html?download=a756b3b6ad09dca2efa937add5060663

Maybe time for a folding ruler theme?

ok

Hultafors, Max Bahr (Adga), Fein (Adga), Festool (Bauma), Stanley (Wiha), Format (BMI)

 

[durallymax]

The feature I miss on that Fein is a button on the bottom where your righthand indexfinger is. That's even more useful.

This one I own also has all the fancy features and is a good alternative:
http://www.bosch-pt.co.in/in/en/pro...648/angle-grinders-125-mm/gws-15-125-cih.html

Can be more useful, on the smaller grinders I like the switch on top like the Fein. Ours are Metabos though.

On the 9" one we have the long handle with trigger switch, thankfully it has a lock.

 

[dutch79]

I also have a Bosch green (consumer) for deburring that has a button on the top. It does make it more compact. Ergonomically and for cutting the rat-tail is easier to handle.
By the way, far most of the small bosch grinders have the button on top, so it's not a real difference between customers of Fein and Bosch

small grinders: http://www.bosch-professional.com/de/de/kleine-winkelschleifer-101278-ocs-c/
large grinders: http://www.bosch-professional.com/de/de/grosse-winkelschleifer-101277-ocs-c/
And Bosch green: http://www.bosch-do-it.de/de/de/bosch-elektrowerkzeuge/werkzeuge/winkelschleifer-199914.jsp

Nevertheless, the Fein grinder is probably also very good. I also like my Fein tools a lot.
Here's a video for Monte on the production of Fein grinders
http://www.fein.nl/nl_nl/slijpen-no...e-slijper/wsb-14-125-t-0181076/video-t400221/

Lately I'm using my straight angle grinder a lot:
http://www.hitachipowertools.ca/en/Products?cat=23&pid=138

 

[mrtools]

who would not remember you mrtools!
you're back!

cammon... Cosmik

another one or the same as last time(the one where you spied on the toolbag content of the swiss techs installing the new factory toy?)?

Not that one..Actually I got an offer from US company and work with them for a years, but in early January 2014 another US company offer a better job and $$$$ so, I'm here now

busy is good as long as there's still time to almost bankrupt oneself on japanese tools, eh!

You right buddy

anyway, welcome back mrtools and keep on posting this time!

Thanks!!!

My new sharksaw's Made in Japan

Awesome..I like Japanese cutting tools especially their saw. How do you like them?

Welcome back Mr. Tools. I wondered every so often what had happened to you. Good to know that you're alive and well.

Thanks for your greeting and attention I'm very appreciated ..
this forum is an awesome, I learn a lot of thing and meets a lot of good friend here

sorry for the crappy cell phone photo.

what is the tools with the red handle? Anex...

And TBS Aachen, in Aachen from whom I have been buying online for a while

More Shots from HUF today.

And lastly from HUF, Festool.

Wow!! that a tools heaven
Thanks for all the pics good jobs

Some tools in action. Hazet 180T-7-RAL7016/258 while installing X3 35 2014 trailer hitch.

nice ride more pics please

Welcome back again

Thank you, the same to you !

http://www.rennsteig.com/en/product...e-punches/356-adjustable-centering-punch.html

thanks for the link, maybe I need one in my toolbox.

Fein WSG 15-125 P
Features: 125mm angle grinder, 1500 Watt, soft start, constant electronics, Kick-Back stop, overload protection, 4 mtr. H07RN-F cable, toolless adjustable guard, anti vibration handle.

nice looking grinder
as usual very **** tools pics, awesome!...still used your Sony DSC-W210? anyway thanks buddy!

Hultafors, Max Bahr (Adga), Fein (Adga), Festool (Bauma), Stanley (Wiha), Format (BMI)

great collection!
which one you frequently use?

 

[mrtools]

My new toys at work!

 

[Monte]

I also have a Bosch green (consumer) for deburring that has a button on the top. It does make it more compact. Ergonomically and for cutting the rat-tail is easier to handle.

For single hand use the short ones are better too.... But i like both types....sometimes this is better and sometimes that....so it´s better to have both styles

By the way, far most of the small bosch grinders have the button on top, so it's not a real difference between customers of Fein and Bosch ]

the green ones yes... but they´re not comparable to Fein

Nevertheless, the Fein grinder is probably also very good. I also like my Fein tools a lot.
Here's a video for Monte on the production of Fein grinders
http://www.fein.nl/nl_nl/slijpen-no...e-slijper/wsb-14-125-t-0181076/video-t400221/]

the video is one reason i bought the Fein

Lately I'm using my straight angle grinder a lot:
http://www.hitachipowertools.ca/en/Products?cat=23&pid=138

next to a angle grinder and a drill a die grinder is my most used tool. I would recommend a (electric) die grinder to anyone who does metal working...

thanks for the link, maybe I need one in my toolbox.

yes but all 3

nice looking grinder
as usual very **** tools pics, awesome!...still used your Sony DSC-W210? anyway thanks buddy!

the Sony fell down and don´t work anymore so i borrowed a "Medion" brand camera from my father

great collection!
which one you frequently use?

i like the Wiha one the best because it´s made of plastic so it doesn´t get damaged through humidity and the scale is etched into the plastic so it can´t wear off.

My new toys at work!

nice!
Does your employer supply them ?








Fein case for the grinder


still need the matching inlay:


you can´t lock the cases together like the Systainer or L-Boxx but you can carry 2 boxes together because of the special "3 handle" design:

 

[dutch79]

That's a nice option.

 

[node105]

<<...and i thought you only need the invoice to get the VAT back ....? Ordering online also means high shipping costs every time... ...the best would be if the products would have the same (low) price everywhere... >>

I'll check out re the invoice, but afaik the invoice the seller gives has extra required details


Shipping costs can be quite reasonable buying online. The company shipping is always going to have a better rate than just walking in off the street with a box to the post office or shipping agent.

I have had about 80 orders from Germany, UK, and USA over the last 3 years, and the largest box ( Mercedes bits) I can recall was about 1/3 to 1/2 what I have sent back this trip, re shipping cost.

Overall, including the shipping cost, I can land in Oz, for about 1/3 to 1/4 the local cost of the same items - that assumes the same items are available here ( most of which aren't). I not only but tools, but clothes, toiletries, and car parts.

 

[nowlan]

What is rat tail? Grip on the rear into cord?

 

[dutch79]

Like this:

With the switch at the end and bottom of the (longer) handle. Mostly found on the bigger grinders (>180mm disc diameter) for better control/stability of the tool and easier operation of the power switch.

 

[durallymax]

What is rat tail? Grip on the rear into cord?

Long handle with trigger for operating it. Bulky on the small grinders but standard on larger ones as its needed for more control.

 

[durallymax]

I also have a Bosch green (consumer) for deburring that has a button on the top. It does make it more compact. Ergonomically and for cutting the rat-tail is easier to handle.
By the way, far most of the small bosch grinders have the button on top, so it's not a real difference between customers of Fein and Bosch

small grinders: http://www.bosch-professional.com/de/de/kleine-winkelschleifer-101278-ocs-c/
large grinders: http://www.bosch-professional.com/de/de/grosse-winkelschleifer-101277-ocs-c/
And Bosch green: http://www.bosch-do-it.de/de/de/bosch-elektrowerkzeuge/werkzeuge/winkelschleifer-199914.jsp

Nevertheless, the Fein grinder is probably also very good. I also like my Fein tools a lot.
Here's a video for Monte on the production of Fein grinders
http://www.fein.nl/nl_nl/slijpen-no...e-slijper/wsb-14-125-t-0181076/video-t400221/

Lately I'm using my straight angle grinder a lot:
http://www.hitachipowertools.ca/en/Products?cat=23&pid=138

The video of the Fein was cool. German factories are always cool, clean bright organized.

Now we need some more brands?

 

[BK13]

This thread is giving me some serious tool envy...

 

[Roverbo]

exactly

Then you need a "Bauma" too
www.bauer-massstabfabrik.de

interesting....i thought that design was french...or japanese....

Nice Bauma ruler... I have been in Sweden for a few days, and found the Adgas in a small farm shop (in the middle of "Hultafors country"). Seems more sloppy than Stabila or Hultafors though?

Regarding the Scangrips...i don´t know Their website tells the same story, we have heard before "We are a danish company, developing and producing tools in Denmark. To keep us competitive, some of our product are now made in China, under danish supervision"...Maybe i will write and ask. Likely, though, that this "simple" tool is now China, and the higher payed workers in Denmark makes the advanced hydraulic tools.
I´ve searched for more information on the Heitu-grip, but the only hit was old tools for sale on the bay. Since it´s marked with "German patent", my guess was Germany. Strange, that the internet still has "radio-dead areas". Older stuff are nice covered, and new tools, of course, but the 1970-80´s are still a bit in the shade. My father has a Facom similar to the Heitu, and he always says "fransk tang" (french pliers). Not because it´s Facom, but that was the nickname for it, when he was a machinist.

ok

Hultafors, Max Bahr (Adga), Fein (Adga), Festool (Bauma), Stanley (Wiha), Format (BMI)

Nice detail with the angle markings! A patent pending, since no other brand features this?

 

[Robust2]

Made a thread a few months ago when I was in doubt if I would buy the expensive European stuff or decent, although China made tools. Ended up buying almost only European tools: Hazet, Gedore, Wera, PB Swiss, Stahlwille, Knipex and a bit driver from Carolus and a 1/4" ratchet set from Bahco which are manufactured elsewhere (love that Bahco ratchet though).
Up until now everything was just stored on a shelf, while looking for a good deal on a toolbox. :

(I've since added a few more items, mainly from Bahco and Hazet)
Finally found one today, also of European origin. Couldn't be happier, since it was a very good deal and their look almost new!

As you can see, I have more space than tools now which is very tempting!

 

[Miskin]

Up until now everything was just stored on a shelf, while looking for a good deal on a toolbox.
Finally found one today, also of European origin. Couldn't be happier, since it was a very good deal and their look almost new!

As you can see, I have more space than tools now which is very tempting!

Nice tools, great toolbox!
Now you need... more tools. It's a disease!

My buddy Lok send the medicine for my disease..

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... and do not forget: He is THE Gedore Guy of GJ!

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[upgrading]

As you can see, I have more space than tools now which is very tempting!

Nice color scheme.

Are the wheels on that box a little small or is it just the angle of the picture ?

 

[keymaster]

Gedore 146B universal pliers 10" ; Walter 1/2 ratchet ; Stubai 1/2 ratchet

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[CanUK]

My buddy Lok send the medicine for my disease..

Very nice - I have plier-envy Still can't find these in the UK. I even emailed the company, but had no reply.

 

[Moose-LandTran]

HUF were kind enough to allow me to take photos. Those of you who live in Europe will take this sort of manna from heaven for granted ( to some extent anyway). For us down under, one has to travel 18000 km to amble around such Alladin's caves.

Could have spent hours there.

Wall of Hazet. Kuko ( I forgot to get some, they were light too!). Picard.

Where is this???? I need to go there!!

Just saw it's TBS Aachen, who i deal with quite frequently. Only 321 miles from me, i'm gonna have to drive over there!

 

[Miskin]

Very nice - I have plier-envy Still can't find these in the UK. I even emailed the company, but had no reply.

It's the only "made in Germany" tool that was not able to find it in ebay.de.

 

[Roverbo]

(...)
interesting....i thought that design was french...or japanese....

Do you know if they still produce in Denmark ?

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Update to this mole grip: I wrote to Scangrip tools and asked if this was made by them (was a bit unsure), and if - then why they changed their name.
Got a nice answer: "Hej Bo. Tak for din intersse i SCANGRIP A/S. Gripex tængerne fik nyt navn i 1986 da den tyske producent af Knipex tænger fandt at navnet lignede deres for meget. Senere blev firmaet Optico (producent af skruestikkebakker) lagt sammen med Gripex og det nye firma fik så navnet SCANGRIP. Produktionen af tænger blev flyttet til Kina i 2008. Med venlig hilsen / Best regards.."
Translation: "Hi Bo. Thanks for your interest in Scangrip Ltd. The Gripex pliers got a new name in 1986, when the german manufacturer Knipex found that the name was too close to their name. Later was Optico (manufacturer of vise jaws) bought, and the new group named Scangrip. The production of pliers was moved to China in 2008."
More information on Scangrip on their web. The hydraulic tools are still made in Denmark.

 

[Monte]

I'll check out re the invoice, but afaik the invoice the seller gives has extra required details
Shipping costs can be quite reasonable buying online. The company shipping is always going to have a better rate than just walking in off the street with a box to the post office or shipping agent.
I have had about 80 orders from Germany, UK, and USA over the last 3 years, and the largest box ( Mercedes bits) I can recall was about 1/3 to 1/2 what I have sent back this trip, re shipping cost.
Overall, including the shipping cost, I can land in Oz, for about 1/3 to 1/4 the local cost of the same items - that assumes the same items are available here ( most of which aren't). I not only but tools, but clothes, toiletries, and car parts.

wow it must be expensive in oz if it pays off to order everything outside...
yes companies often have better options for shipping... this here is for example quite low (imho) http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=596190
compared to private sellers but also other companies at ebay.com etc....
Unfortunately other companies want like 30$ to 40$ instead of the $9.99 + $3.99 Amazon charges....

Nice Bauma ruler... I have been in Sweden for a few days, and found the Adgas in a small farm shop (in the middle of "Hultafors country"). Seems more sloppy than Stabila or Hultafors though? ?

no problems with mine.... ??
edit: they offer different types with different joints, maybe some of them are more sloppy than others ?? http://www.adga.de/pdfs/adga_en.pdf

Regarding the Scangrips...i don´t know Their website tells the same story, we have heard before "We are a danish company, developing and producing tools in Denmark. To keep us competitive, some of our product are now made in China, under danish supervision"...Maybe i will write and ask. Likely, though, that this "simple" tool is now China, and the higher payed workers in Denmark makes the advanced hydraulic tools.

edit: thanks for the updated info !!!

I´ve searched for more information on the Heitu-grip, but the only hit was old tools for sale on the bay. Since it´s marked with "German patent", my guess was Germany. Strange, that the internet still has "radio-dead areas". Older stuff are nice covered, and new tools, of course, but the 1970-80´s are still a bit in the shade. My father has a Facom similar to the Heitu, and he always says "fransk tang" (french pliers). Not because it´s Facom, but that was the nickname for it, when he was a machinist.

The name "Heitu" or "Heitu-Grip" is not registered at the trademark office....so i´m clueless too.... btw. here is more "info"
http://carlotta.malmo.se/carlotta-mmus/web/object/517701

Nice detail with the angle markings! A patent pending, since no other brand features this?

one is from Bauma, the other from BMI. The patent might have been expired.

Made a thread a few months ago when I was in doubt if I would buy the expensive European stuff or decent, although China made tools. Ended up buying almost only European tools: "

very nice box + tools













New Stahlwille fine tooth ratchets with 80 teeth available in 1/4" + 3/8"

 

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New Stahlwille fine tooth ratchets with 80 teeth available in 1/4" + 3/8"

Looks good.
Can I assume 435qrn is the item number ?