To be honest you're going to have a hard time putting 100Nm on a normal length 13mm wrench by hand, unless it happens to be a really long. For example the Hazet 600N-13 is 193mm long (which is already longer than a lot of others in the test): so if you get a good grip on the wrench with one hand you have an arm of maybe 15cm with respect to fastener, meaning that you have to put a force of about 666N (145lbs) on it to reach a torque of 100Nm. That's already going to be painful on your hand, let alone going to 200Nm or above.
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To be honest you're going to have a hard time putting 100Nm on a normal length 13mm wrench by hand, unless it happens to be a really long. For example the Hazet 600N-13 is 193mm long (which is already longer than a lot of others in the test): so if you get a good grip on the wrench with one hand you have an arm of maybe 15cm with respect to fastener, meaning that you have to put a force of about 666N (145lbs) on it to reach a torque of 100Nm. That's already going to be painful on your hand, let alone going to 200Nm or above.
Sure, I will wait. Stanley dealers live forever, especially if they also sell DeWalt. Did you know that?
No didn´t know that
I hope you´ll live longer than a Stanley/Dewalt tool.... 
for example:
https://www.bahco.com/en/where-to-buy/
Sätila work hat for the cold days...
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scarrylarry
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for example:
https://www.bahco.com/en/where-to-buy/
Sätila work hat for the cold days...
Monte ,I like how that knitted hat drops down to cover the ears . clever design !
scarrylarry
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I sure will! I have to sell you Bost pliers factory, remember?
Cutting wheel from the Soviet Union. Made in 1987 at some mechanical-repair factory in the city of Novy Rozdol. An interesting fact: this factory was subordinate to the Ministry of the production of mineral fertilizers.
Yeah i liked that idea too because my ears are always a bit exposed. Carhartt sells something similar but not over here unfortunately. A Stormy Kromer cap might work too though
(n/a over here...) But in the meantime i bought something warmer because the Sätila hat is too thin for really cold weather imho....yes you´re right ! You can already order a new car for youI sure will! I have to sell you Bost pliers factory, remember?
nice sets !
"Spencer" file handle
It reminds me of the combination pliers that were included in their "tourist box" which were sold during the 50's and 60's and meant as a on-the-road tool kits voor the VW bug and several other german cars. But I'm not sure how long they produced this style of pliers after they stopped selling the tool kit, so that only narrows it down to being made somewhere between 1950 and 1990. 
racingtadpole
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Monte, I borrowed this from your garage thread, possibly the best soft jaws I've ever seen, who makes them and where can I buy them?
Thanks
Knipex 38 91 200 question?
Anyone know what the smallest diameter of hose that the spark plug lead gripping pliers from Knipex will grip? Anyone got a pair? The diameter is not listed in their catalogue. I'm looking for something that will grip the fuel return lines on a Mercedes diesel. Thanks!
Anyone know what the smallest diameter of hose that the spark plug lead gripping pliers from Knipex will grip? Anyone got a pair? The diameter is not listed in their catalogue. I'm looking for something that will grip the fuel return lines on a Mercedes diesel. Thanks!
It reminds me of the combination pliers that were included in their "tourist box" which were sold during the 50's and 60's and meant as a on-the-road tool kits voor the VW bug and several other german cars. But I'm not sure how long they produced this style of pliers after they stopped selling the tool kit, so that only narrows it down to being made somewhere between 1950 and 1990.
The 1850 model today is similar but with some changes to the jaw lines and only the component handle is offered
https://www.tbs-aachen.de/Hazet/pli...n_Pliers_bright_chrome-plated_i2711_13237.htm
I have the slightly larger 38 95 200 which has a closed diameter of 12mm
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Thanks! That helps a lot.
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A couple of days ago, my tiny seventy-kilogram alabai tore the door trim with its claws. So I decided to buy a staple gun from myself It’s a "heavy duty" model made of aircraft aluminium. You can use staples from 6 to 14 mm and studs, as well as to install the wiring. It's heavy and has a powerful shot.
There is no COO either on the staple gun or on its packaging, but staples are made in China. Such a surprise
It’s a "heavy duty" model made of aircraft aluminium. You can use staples from 6 to 14 mm and studs, as well as to install the wiring. It's heavy and has a powerful shot.There is no COO either on the staple gun or on its packaging, but staples are made in China. Such a surprise
Monte, I borrowed this from your garage thread, possibly the best soft jaws I've ever seen, who makes them and where can I buy them?
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Why Stanley ?
The swedes make staple guns too....in Sweden....
Why Stanley ?but staples are made in China. Such a surprise
The germans make staples too....in Germany....
Thermo Function thermal underwear for cold workdays:
Shirt, pants, neck gaiter and balaclava:
I also bought a set (shirt, pants) from Nordforest:
Cynical huckster
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Why Stanley ?
It's about availability. There is no official Rapid dealer in Ukraine. Prebena dealer sells staples for pneumatic staple guns only. They can supply on demand (I also can), but I needed a staple gun now
Moreover, I have an exclusive discount on Stanley
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racingtadpole
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Thanks, much appreciated, I see a couple of sets in my future
Cynical huckster
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Why Stanley cutting pliers? Because they are made in France. Because they are available in my country, unlike Bost, and they are much cheaper than Facom. They are also qualitative.
By the way, Monte, are they already available in Germany?
By the way, Monte, are they already available in Germany?
dutchgray
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Got me some new to me machines,
10" pedestal grinder
View media item 794376" by 42" linisher/ 12" disc sander
View media item 79438Both 3 phase, have a suitable VFD in stock so will probably wire up the linisher first, these are both ex school machines so are in pretty good order, the grinder is missing the left side base cover, but that can be replaced with some sheet metal or even a bit of ply, and the linisher needs a mitre fence for its table.
10" pedestal grinder
View media item 794376" by 42" linisher/ 12" disc sander
View media item 79438Both 3 phase, have a suitable VFD in stock so will probably wire up the linisher first, these are both ex school machines so are in pretty good order, the grinder is missing the left side base cover, but that can be replaced with some sheet metal or even a bit of ply, and the linisher needs a mitre fence for its table.
Since I’ve found this website and this thread, I have propably bought more tools within a year than 10 years before that . It’s not all bad some tools have come in necessary use and some in terms good to have and some just got to have alltought you know you don’t need them . The info you get here is priceless, you don’t find it anywhere else, or at least a DIY guy like me don’t. So keep up the good work guys 
Some ebay findings(the price was good):
-Hazet 630 17x19 and 21x23 (have stahlwille stabil ones so why not Hazet too), Hazet 612 17x19, Hazet 803 ph3(really like the handle size and shape. For working with dirty enviroment)
-Stahlwille 435qrn, wanted this for long time, so pulled the trigger.
-Stahlwille 512 sgqr, my first metal handle german ratchet. Nice satin finish. Now with finnish winter and cold garage, won’t propably use it but in summer defenitly will put in test(by the way, the handle fits well in cheater pipe
-Alarm screwdrivers. Bought these because they have small handless, sometimes come in handy. New company to me, haven’t heard before. Is it OEM or do some other company make these?
I’m in search for top quality locking pliers since my old usa made vise grips have broken and have only few working pairs left. I need short and long straight nose pliers and welding pliers. What would you recommend? Only made in europe or Japan....
. It’s not all bad some tools have come in necessary use and some in terms good to have and some just got to have alltought you know you don’t need them . The info you get here is priceless, you don’t find it anywhere else, or at least a DIY guy like me don’t. So keep up the good work guys Some ebay findings(the price was good):
-Hazet 630 17x19 and 21x23 (have stahlwille stabil ones so why not Hazet too), Hazet 612 17x19, Hazet 803 ph3(really like the handle size and shape. For working with dirty enviroment)
-Stahlwille 435qrn, wanted this for long time, so pulled the trigger
. -Stahlwille 512 sgqr, my first metal handle german ratchet. Nice satin finish. Now with finnish winter and cold garage, won’t propably use it but in summer defenitly will put in test(by the way, the handle fits well in cheater pipe
-Alarm screwdrivers. Bought these because they have small handless, sometimes come in handy. New company to me, haven’t heard before. Is it OEM or do some other company make these?
I’m in search for top quality locking pliers since my old usa made vise grips have broken and have only few working pairs left. I need short and long straight nose pliers and welding pliers. What would you recommend? Only made in europe or Japan....
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hautpot
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First Zenten Knife for Stahlwille, I like it.
Wiha pull tools made for Mercedes. There is also a black version I think.
Hozan pliers are crafted so well. The grips are AMAZINGLY soft. Both of the blue pliers are for chain links.
Lastly a ton of PB Swiss punches. One single Gedore prybar.
Wiha pull tools made for Mercedes. There is also a black version I think.
Hozan pliers are crafted so well. The grips are AMAZINGLY soft. Both of the blue pliers are for chain links.
Lastly a ton of PB Swiss punches. One single Gedore prybar.
it´s all good !It's about availability. There is no official Rapid dealer in Ukraine. Prebena dealer sells staples for pneumatic staple guns only. They can supply on demand (I also can), but I needed a staple gun now
Moreover, I have an exclusive discount on Stanley
Only on their websiteBy the way, Monte, are they already available in Germany?
The stores usually carry only certain Stanley tools like storage items and knives etc. so it will be difficult to find them anyway.
wow nice machinery !!
noooooo(by the way, the handle fits well in cheater pipe
They´re made by Witte
Hazet, Rennsteig, Knipex etc....
Made by Bollmann in Germany.
Or Grip-On from Spain.
Facom also offer a few french made locking pliers as well as Dolex.
My father bought a new tool without notifying me (maybe that´s better
). But i found it anyway:Bosch EasyCut 12. A mini chainsaw !
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superautobacs
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Interesting...I wanna see that thing in action!!
upgrading
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Does it require bar & chain oil ?
theamcguy
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I have one of the Bosch mini-chain saws here in the US, bought it off eBay in Germany.
davethorik
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I have the Hozan P-221 masterlink pliers like yours. At first I couldn't get them to work and got frustrated, so they got put away and not used for a while. Last year, watched some helpful youtube vids on how to use them, and gave them a 2nd chance. They work great once you get your technique down! So much better than using a slotted screwdriver and stabbing your hand multiple times. I'm pretty sure they weren't that expensive, and yes the grips are quality and fit and finish overall is very good.
Cynical huckster
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The stores usually carry only certain Stanley tools like storage items and knives etc. so it will be difficult to find them anyway.
We sell a lot of Stanley. Not only hand tools, but power tools too. I can take a few pics in our store if you're interested
Now find the difference
Do you run it with original Bosch Green batteries/charger or did you modify the Bosch Blue batteries or the tool ?
That would be superb ! I bet i´m not the only one interested in tool store picsWe sell a lot of Stanley. Not only hand tools, but power tools too. I can take a few pics in our store if you're interested
1. handle designNow find the difference
2. colors
3. brands
Brennenstuhl "Bremaxx" extension cable
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theamcguy
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It came with one green battery in the kit so I use that. The charger I just pitched and use my standard Bosch 12V charger. Rather than modify my Bosch Blue line batteries I just ordered another green line battery.
Do you run it with original Bosch Green batteries/charger or did you modify the Bosch Blue batteries or the tool ?
That would be superb ! I bet i´m not the only one interested in tool store pics
1. handle design
2. colors
3. brands
Brennenstuhl "Bremaxx" extension cable
I am looking to buy a few hex bits and specifically a 7mm one for the front struts of the car. The reason is I tried to torque the struts to 60Nm but the hex bit I had it was halfords and could not reach the max torque because I could feel the key slipping. I am between PBSwiss and Wera hex-plus and not sure which is best with regards to fitment.
I have some PBswiss allen keys and when measured them with the digital caliper, Tesa swiss, it seems that 8mm and 6mm are under tolerance of aboit 0.05mm to 5.95mm and 7.95mm. Old Unbrako keys I have are spot on at or about 1/4 at 6.35mm and 8mm.
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I have some PBswiss allen keys and when measured them with the digital caliper, Tesa swiss, it seems that 8mm and 6mm are under tolerance of aboit 0.05mm to 5.95mm and 7.95mm. Old Unbrako keys I have are spot on at or about 1/4 at 6.35mm and 8mm.
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In your case it's probably easier to get 1/2" (or 3/8") hex sockets that you can use directly on your torque wrench, like this:
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That would be superb ! I bet i´m not the only one interested in tool store pics
You'll have to wait at least until tomorrow. If I have time, I'll take a few pics of the showcase with Stanley tools. We also sell DeWalt and Bosch power tools in the store, and more brands on demand.
1. handle design
2. colors
3. brands
I didn't see these pliers before in SAM product range. Probably this reference appeared not so long ago. At least there is no doubt about quality
The total length of this Soviet made screwdriver is 47 mm.
H Metalio,In your case it's probably easier to get 1/2" (or 3/8") hex sockets that you can use directly on your torque wrench, like this:
I agree, I used the bit before with 1/4 to 3/8 adapter.
I am just looking for the hex with the best tolerance/ fitment.
I think the problem is the fitment of the bit in the hex and also the strut hex, Bilstein, seemed softer than the original.
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hautpot
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Yeah I paid about $13 USD DEC 2017 per pliers with shipping inclusive. I honestly have no idea why I bought them! I don't have a bicycle or similar equipment.
Why Stanley cutting pliers? Because they are made in France. Because they are available in my country, unlike Bost, and they are much cheaper than Facom. They are also qualitative.
By the way, Monte, are they already available in Germany?
Huckster I noticed that these handles are the same as the new ones that Stanley is currently advertising along with the compound pliers. Do you know if
1. They are going to be available in the US
2. Are any of the other pliers other than the cutter made in France or other than China
Ah ok, thanks for the info ! I thought it might be interesting for other american members.
Like Metalio wrote:
7mm bit socket e.g. Hazet 8801K-7 (3/8" drive) or Hazet 986-7 (1/2"), Gedore IN 19 7 or Stahlwille 49 7.......
Cool thanks !!
Doeas SAM actually makes pliers at all ? The mechanics pliers have a german look too....I didn't see these pliers before in SAM product range. Probably this reference appeared not so long ago. At least there is no doubt about quality
cute
For model cars ?Grabit screw + bolt remover
Cynical huckster
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1. I don't know. I can ask this question to my manager in the Ukrainian Stanley Black&Decker office, but I'm not sure if they have information about the US market.
2. Combination pliers, cutting pliers, bent long nose pliers, needle-nose pliers and some waterpump pliers (including insulated pliers) FatMax, which are sold in the European market, are made in France now. They are made at Bost factory. Cushion Grip and DynaGrip pliers are still made in China.
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