Tools from the old world
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Bolster
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Who's the good lookin' guy in a blue shirt, on the bicycle, holding the camera? Whoever he is, tell him that if he gets a polarizing filter for his camera, he can make all those window reflections disappear...
superautobacs
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You'll might be surprised at how many North American brands use Dogyu prybars/cat's paws; I certainly was.
They are special because of their compact sizes.
FWIW, I'm guessing that Hazet magnetic bowl is imported.
Monte,
Thanks for taking those pics, taking us through your window shopping ride.
Interesting "Hamburg" sack....I even see a "Hamburg" carpenter's pencil.
Nice to see Veritas over there, and those hand forged Japanese wood chisel sets must cost a fortune!
In the picture below: the spanners...are those ratcheting ones? ...Made in Japan?
CP once bought "Desoutter" and "Georges Renault" , companies from England and France, but i don´t know what exactly they still manufacture there.
Probably assembly line tools ??
However a list of some european air tool manufacturers:
ATA www.atatools.ie
Desoutter www.desouttertools.com
Biax www.biax-germany.de
Suhner www.suhner-abrasive-expert.com
Fiam www.fiamairtools.com
Cengar www.cengar.com
Paoli www.paolipitstop.com
Atlas Copco www.atlascopco.com
Trelawny www.trelawnyspt.com
Bosch http://www.boschproductiontools.com/iwboptocs2-en/category.htm
Festool www.festool.de
Mannesmann-Demag www.mannesmann-demag.com
Spitznas www.spitznas.de
Rupes www.rupes.com
I think he has no money for anything except tools ...Look at his bicycle ... it´s from 1920 or so... @superautobacs:
yes indeed the japanese hand forged tools can be quite expensive, up to 289.- Euro for a hand forged 36mm wood chisel. There are reasonable priced chisels with rolled double layered steel blades available for about 13,60 (3mm) to 20,50 € (42mm). The medium priced ones are probably also made out of machine made/rolled material. The hand made damascus steel chisels and knifes are very beautiful but unfortunately too expensive (the hand made 300 layer ones) The machine made damascus products are luckily more reasonable.
The ratcheting wrenches are these here, prolly Taiwan or China:
china:
http://www.debontools.com/en/Pro_show.asp?proid=209
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Bolster, you are a fun killer, by the way if you have a tip to avoid the non-focus effect under neon lighting I am very interested.
Is it me or does someone else see a chromed manure fork at the Hartmann store?
Monte; the V10 onthe hazet wrench apparently means that it had a black oxide finish when it came out of the factory.
The funniest thing just happened to me just 5minutes before posting this (understand 00:45 am), the phone rings, a lady tells me that her colleague wants to know if I am married
headscrat). I was listenning to a musical masterpiece from arcade fire at this moment and got a bit pissed, so I answeredNon!! je ne suis pas intéressé par les trainées qui ne sont pas encore couchées à minuit!!
Which can be tranlated by;
Nope!! I am not interested in tramps that are a not in bed at midnight!!
The seduction books tell that you have to put some distance at first to maintain some mystery, was I good at that??
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impulse922
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was beating around in my dad's toolbox and found these.. Gedore made in india, wtf?
Cantause
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@Cantause:
good prices for the Mitutoyo tools !!! Wow beautiful Bessey/Erdi scissors !!!!! What do you plan to do with it ? I read BMW plan to build their new small car with carbon parts. Did you hire there ???
Yes Bosch will introduce a new line of power tools specially for the women. "Louis Vitton" and "Gucci" versions will follow
Nop, I just bought the BMW group and the previous owners told me that the only tool missing in the factories was a pair of scissors to cut the carbon fibre cloth. So I ordered one and took a picture before sending it to the plant, I'm broke now
Sounds good about the luxury designer's line of power tool, girls are always embarrased when they can't find a red lip stick that match their Hilti power tools...
The funniest thing just happened to me just 5minutes before posting this (understand 00:45 am), the phone rings, a lady tells me that her colleague wants to know if I am married
Non!! je ne suis pas intéressé par les trainées qui ne sont pas encore couchées à minuit!!
Which can be tranlated by;
Nope!! I am not interested in tramps that are a not in bed at midnight!!
The seduction books tell that you have to put some distance at first to maintain some mystery, was I good at that??
You could at least have asked if her collegue was a beautiful girl before deploying such a sophisticated seduction technique
Here some pics from the flea market this sunday:
the "main street"
the parrallel "street"
the view from the other side of the "main street". I was a bit late, normally there are booths in the middle too.
straight out of the container
some people even offer a warranty. I wonder what the warranty is ? A warranty that they don´t warranty anything ? A warranty that they won´t be there next week ? 
Bosch, Kress, Makita, Kinzo, Atlas Copco, Black + Decker, Top Craft, Casals + other electric tools
i think you can see 2 ratcheting screwdrivers from the US, or copies not from the US...
household stuff, the majority what you find there, as well as clothes etc.
Some electric tools in the middle and a plane.
misc stuff, soldering gun, "Spear + Jackson" saw, Bessey vise.
plastic shoes anybody ?
only 3,50 a pair 
yes you saw right. It´s polished stainless steel
102.- Euro for the fork, they also have a matching shovel for 79.- Euro (short) and 99.- (long handle). Made in Japan.
yes it looks painted, the "Gott" wrench too looks painted. Never saw a Hazet wrench with a "V10" or other letter codes though.
@Impulse922
There was a joint venture between Gedore and a company in India from 1961 to 1986. You sometimes can find these wrenches also here at the flea market.
Nop, I just bought the BMW group and the previous owners told me that the only tool missing in the factories was a pair of scissors to cut the carbon fibre cloth. So I ordered one and took a picture before sending it to the plant, I'm broke now
ahh ok !
sounds logical Sounds good about the luxury designer's line of power tool, girls are always embarrased when they can't find a red lip stick that match their Hilti power tools...
it should dramatically increase power tool sales !!
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Hazet 197-3
This little bowl caught my eye. Clever little thing...
What does it do? Specifically the ridges inside....
Saskatoontools
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Neat Tools. I am trying get a hold of some independent tool truck operators, as I am just getting into the business. Who is in your area other than SO,Mac, Matco etc. I want to give them a call so I can learn stuff.
Rich
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sometimes you find something useful if you dig long enough
but there is also a lot of cheap **** (sockets without ball retainer groove, pliers which are useless etc.)another pic of the bowl.
the red "KS-Tools" version
no-name version in black from Ebay
Jeff
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I bought three Stahlwille Motor wrenches on eBay. Does anyone know the manufacturing country? There is no country mark.
AlexRS
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Jeff
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impulse922
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know anything about the Gedore's from india?
only what i wrote in post #2772
@Impulse922
There was a joint venture between Gedore and a company in India from 1961 to 1986. You sometimes can find these wrenches also here at the flea market.
Meaning you're going to be an independant tool truck operator? What brands are you going to deal with?
superautobacs
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Those willes are odd, without the COO forge. Maybe some Chinese knock-offs? 
just kiddin'
Send the photos to them and see if what they have to say.
I have an old wrench that looks really similar to a Wille wrench; it has the same offset on the open-end, I-beam, and made in W. Germany.
In my neck of the woods, you can't get away from seeing a made-in-India Gedore. They were once quite common in certain parts of North America.
just kiddin'Send the photos to them and see if what they have to say.
I have an old wrench that looks really similar to a Wille wrench; it has the same offset on the open-end, I-beam, and made in W. Germany.
In my neck of the woods, you can't get away from seeing a made-in-India Gedore. They were once quite common in certain parts of North America.
oops thats not good... i thought it´s like a regular store...
There should be good prices @ ebay.de or at stores like www.tbs-aachen.de where you can get Hazet for example at discounted prices
http://www.tbs-aachen.de/Aktion_2010_c1720.htm
Hazet "V10" wrench (?)
Yeah, it's a shame.
Thanks for the store tip, there the prices were better, i'll ask them about shipping to sweden.
Regarding that Hazet wrench, do you know anything about it? I just was struck by the design similarity to:
Top bottom i bought at the Bahco outlet. The two upper is older, don't know exactly but more than 20, probably over 40 years.
An other odd find from today:
A Kamasa-tools fixed 8mm ratchet. Kamsa-tools is a swedish brand, with outsourced production. They only had 7mm and 8mm of this type in the store. Bought mostly for it was a special tool.
superautobacs
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Гость;1033477 said:
Let's see some Russian-made tools.
I think Monte had one single wrench, but I think we'd like to see more.
@TjoFrasse
They are wrenches that conform to DIN895 specifications. They were quite common.
This is what DIN refers to: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67675&highlight=DIN895
Here's another one for reference: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41175&highlight=DIN895
That swivel socket ratchet is also sold in Japan under the SEK brand, but from the looks of it, yours has a semi-deep socket length. As a feature, I think the low-profile height would be more suitable overall. ....but I'm sure you got that for a good price.
@TjoFrasse
They are wrenches that conform to DIN895 specifications. They were quite common.
This is what DIN refers to: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=67675&highlight=DIN895
Here's another one for reference: http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=41175&highlight=DIN895
That swivel socket ratchet is also sold in Japan under the SEK brand, but from the looks of it, yours has a semi-deep socket length. As a feature, I think the low-profile height would be more suitable overall. ....but I'm sure you got that for a good price.
So that's what it is. I haven't seen so much of those, but that explains the various contexts they appear in. I foolishly thought the DIN marking only was a steel type identifier.
Sold in Japan sounds likely, the packaging was marked "JAPAN" and much of their outsourcing is there. At 8mm there is some things i can use it for on my VWs, but i doubt it will be more practical than a ratchet with a socket or a flex ratcheting wrench.
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Oh, and i forgot: I paid €7 for it.
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sstetsen
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Today I've posted the link to this thread to the most popular ex-USSR's tools forum (mastercity.ru) so you could expect more and more questions and even discussions about Russian toolsAre we talking about handy man tools or other instruments ?
A "guest" in Russian is "гость", a "tool" is "инструмент", so the "instrument" could be used as a synonym for the "tool" by guests from Russia sometimes.
That swivel socket ratchet is also sold in Japan under the SEK brand, but from the looks of it, yours has a semi-deep socket length. As a feature, I think the low-profile height would be more suitable overall. ....but I'm sure you got that for a good price.
So you have to buy 1 ratchet for EACH size?
That takes up a lot of space.
Made a mistake! The yellow handle inside the box says Felo Germany. The handle of the ratchet says chrom vanadium.
btw. nice pictures. didn't know that those type of stores survived the internet.
The holder area is slightly bigger than aa ordinary screwdriver. The handle fits well, can't complain about that. But i don't like the feeling, because the bit holder is heavy, but the slider that keeps the bits inside the holder area isn't tight enough and shakes a little bit. So you got something heavy but loose in your hand, feels strange. I want this:
@TjoFrasse:
interesting ratchet !! 7€ is a good price ! I guess reduced or ebay ????
here another "DIN 895" wrench from Hazet this time in original finish.
The DIN 895 (+ DIN 894 /single open end) wrenches torque rating is about 50% lower compared to the regular (chrome plated) DIN 3110 wrenches . So i always recommend to buy the "normal" (DIN 3110) open end wrenches.
here a russian wrench:
interesting ratchet !! 7€ is a good price ! I guess reduced or ebay ????
here another "DIN 895" wrench from Hazet this time in original finish.
The DIN 895 (+ DIN 894 /single open end) wrenches torque rating is about 50% lower compared to the regular (chrome plated) DIN 3110 wrenches . So i always recommend to buy the "normal" (DIN 3110) open end wrenches.
here a russian wrench:
Jeff
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In its own crude way, I kinda like that Russian wrench.
Bolster
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Strong...Like Bull!
Not Corrupt Decadent Western Chrome, (phtooey) I Spit!
Is Used for Adjusting Kalashnikov!
So you have to buy 1 ratchet for EACH size?
That takes up a lot of space.
Well, since they only had 7mm and 8mm, it's not possible to use up too much space...
@TjoFrasse:
interesting ratchet !! 7€ is a good price ! I guess reduced or ebay ????
here another "DIN 895" wrench from Hazet this time in original finish.
The DIN 895 (+ DIN 894 /single open end) wrenches torque rating is about 50% lower compared to the regular (chrome plated) DIN 3110 wrenches . So i always recommend to buy the "normal" (DIN 3110) open end wrenches.
It was regular price at a big swedish hardware chain. But not regular stock, it's not in their 2010 catalog. So probably was a surplus deal from the manufacturer or something.
Ok, but i must say i dig the look of the DIN895 wrenches. Is DIN 3110 always shiny chrome plated?
That USSR wrench is really nice! They did conform to standard and wrote in English on their tools? Shouldn't there be tools with Cyrillic on them?
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sstetsen
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I should say that in USSR all (at least, industry) tools had to conform to very strict industry (I'd say even military) standards, so named "ГОСТ"s. So if a wrench was marked as "Chrom Vanadium" (not "Chrome", but "Chrom") it meant that exact alloy composition and forge processes were carefully checked. Another thing how a tool looked like...
And "Made in USSR" doesn't denote that the wrench was manufactured in Russia. It seems to me that this wrench was manufactured in Zaporozhiye, Ukraine, my father had similar ones. Even more, this inscription "Made in USSR" was used primarily for tools exported outside of USSR (Eastern Europe, India, etc), so quality of the wrench was guaranteed.
And "Made in USSR" doesn't denote that the wrench was manufactured in Russia. It seems to me that this wrench was manufactured in Zaporozhiye, Ukraine, my father had similar ones. Even more, this inscription "Made in USSR" was used primarily for tools exported outside of USSR (Eastern Europe, India, etc), so quality of the wrench was guaranteed.
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You don't need many tools to make an AK run. Diesel, rag and a stick.
yeah they look nice with the reinforced jaw design etc.... I only know the DIN3110 wrenches in plated and the DIN895 wrenches in black oxide finish. However sometimes you´ll find plated DIN895 wrenches in car kits.
Some more DIN 895 wrenches for you
Do you have any tools from Russia, Kazakhstan or Ukraine or other former countries of the soviet union ?
superautobacs
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Hilarious!I have some old Japanese wrenches from Asahi and Netsuren that mimic the DIN895 design.
They look like these (pics from the net):
These single open-end wrenches have the JIS B 4630 designation.
The ones from Asahi are labeled "ASH". They claim this design is 1.5 times stronger than standard open-ends.:
Here's an example made by AIGO :
EDIT: Here's most of my small collection of DIN895 type wrenches that I've posted here, along with some other ones, and minus the Japanese ones. Thread
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