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Monte, you think the Knipex ergostrip tool is made by Jokari? It looks very similar
I don´t know.... i guess yes.....because:
(Could be a exclusive tool from Jokari for Knipex (for a few years at least))




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On the other hand................Maybe they make (or engineer) the ergostrip on their own because they said we can do this too.......
They also have other similar tools like this plastic pipe cutter:

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........also not available from Jokari.
The inside of both these tools have a "waffle" design:
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whereas Jokari seem to have choosen a "rib" design:
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is this an indicator of different engineering or manufacturing by another company ?? Maybe.....I don´t know :D
But if it´s made by Jokari or Knipex or somebody else in Germany it will be good :p:LOL::giggle:
 
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In case anyone's wondering, I looked some time ago, it's still the case.
Do you also offer international shipping?
Currently, we only offer shipping within Germany.
 

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Exactly.

I'm in 3. right now, the "others". Most of the prices I see on idealo I can't get because most German online shops wont ship outside Germany, or will ship to 2. only. Or they will charge 30-45eur shipping to 3. that makes it prohibitive to buy 1-2 tools.

Eg, no PB Swiss or Stahlwille for me. There are local reps in Greece that sell x3 the idealo price and carry no stock, you have to order what you want and they'll have it in 3 months.:sleep:

I think it comes down to hidden :rolleyes: agreements (the sort that Philips pioneered a century ago) between companies, distributors (yes, we still have these) and shops. Eg, SBD will say to Amazon de, you can put that Dewalt combo on sale but you won't ship to SE European countries. 2-3 years ago Dewalt power tools used to be half price in Bulgaria than Greece, don't know if that's still the case.

Yup, Europe is different from the USA.
Thats wierd, i live in poland, and basicaly all big old world brands are avaliable locally with ok prices. In my small city ~40k people i can buy knipex, wera, beta, bessey and ofc big brands dewalt, makita etc..
In 50km radius i probably can find store selling every big european manufacturer/brand.
Im not even mentioning china/taiwan stuff.
Only us tooltruck tools are not available here.

btw. imo you not missing much, i think only knipex is good value tbh from eu xD
 
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Sure, but they are in eu+shengen and have euro as currency.

Amazon, ebay or big automotive stores like intercars isnt a thing there?
 

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In case anyone's wondering, I looked some time ago, it's still the case.

With the current state of “international shipping”, no wonder, honestly.

Couple of days ago with a day or two in between, I pulled two Christmas cards from the US out of our mailbox. One was a regular USPS mailed card, stamped 17th of December. The other I suspect came via a ‘print and ship‘ service, as it was only ever really put into the postal system in the Netherlands.

Since about 2019 you can’t use a regular mail envelope/cushion mailer anymore to forward actual goods internationally. So you have at least shipping cost for an untracked/uninsured parcel, which is double of what a “registered cushion mailer” was back in the day. If you want tracking/insurance, it’s even more expensive.

And the timeline, I was honestly shocked to see how long it took for a parcel shipped that way from my local PO, to the Frankfurt Airport PO, how long it was held at the Frankfurt Airport PO before it arrived at an Airport within the Country it was shipped to.

As a private entity, I don’t mind. And if you really need to get something somewhere fast, there is always a courier/ logistics company that is not the postal system. But obviously cost is in accordance with the service.

Something else that has been going on for quite some time, Szczecin in Poland is becoming maybe the most important logistics/ fulfillment hub in Europe now. Many large manufacturers/companies ship from there. Labor and energy cost are low and they have quick access to land/air/sea. And for competitive pricing on shipping, some of these logistics provider ”copy” the Chinese. For a parcel to Germany, they buy a national/German DHL shipping label, you then get an e-mail that your order has shipped, but it actually hasn’t. They just print a ton of labels, gather all the parcels for one country and bring them across the “border“ to ship them with the local logistics provider.

Long story short, if a small company like Knipex were to offer international shipping, they would need at least 2 full time employees just to do that. Not only the shipping/customs stuff, but for customer support. Imagine, what I described above with my parcel, sitting for days/weeks without moving. How many “where is my stuff” e-mails would they have to answer? People expect the “next day, free shipping, Amazon” experience.

Currently, except our mail guy, delivery drivers fall like flies, err, change regularly. So I haven’t had a worthwhile conversation in a longer period. Our last regular/ everyday DHL guy, before he got transferred to another route, said the following to me once: I can not finish my route, I can not deliver a package and simply re-schedule, but one thing I can’t do, unless I’m dead or med-evaced from my van: Not deliver an Amazon package.

And that is where we are. There is one company that has an insane amount of “sway” over all the logistics providers, and everyone else is 2nd tier, if even at all. Depending on the carrier, they might have another important customer or two who they try to appease/ not disappoint with fast delivery times. But if you’re Joe Average, using regular shipping options that are not guaranteed, good luck.

I notice this all the time. Packages from companies that are considered a “valuable customer” by any given logistics provider come on time, are rushed through the system even though being “regular packages”, not express/guaranteed delivery. And other stuff, even if scheduled for delivery get postponed at will, are not out for delivery on a Saturday, or are simply held back in favor of packages shipped by customers considered “more valuable”.

Being a small company, shipping stuff s*cks b*lls.

And God knows I know the pain of not being able to order stuff, because a lot of companies, in my opinion rightfully, don’t participate in the circus that (international) shipping has become.

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Olli
 

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A couple of months ago, Knipex (Marc) did a Q&A on Reddit here.

Some moderately interesting answers there, but if you don't want to read the whole thing:
  • One or two new XS size tools on the way
  • They're working on an international fan shop
 

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Our last regular/ everyday DHL guy, before he got transferred to another route, said the following to me once: I can not finish my route, I can not deliver a package and simply re-schedule, but one thing I can’t do, unless I’m dead or med-evaced from my van: Not deliver an Amazon package.

And that is where we are. There is one company that has an insane amount of “sway” over all the logistics providers, and everyone else is 2nd tier, if even at all.

And God knows I know the pain of not being able to order stuff, because a lot of companies, in my opinion rightfully, don’t participate in the circus that (international) shipping has become.
Its a mess. Here, in Greece the couriers race to the bottom. The market has settled on a 3eur domestic rate, and they do everything they can to enshitify their service: Late packages, force you to go pick up from them, fake delivery stickers "we didn't find you home" (its cheaper to have a guy come to a list of addresses and put stickers "we couldn't deliver your package" than actually deliver packages... :rolleyes: ) Or, the latest, they stuff your orders in "boxes" (=lockers) or gas stations and you have to pick it up yourself.

Meanwhile, amazon packages get delivered 1-2 days earlier than the estimated delivery date on amazon...
 

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I got my second Stubai spanner at a car boot sale on Sunday (my first one is pictured up thread).

I see so many of these DOE spanners made to DIN895 with various different names on them. Whilst I understand that if they are all made in accordance with DIN895 they will all look the same, I wonder how may different factories are actually making them.
 

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Knipex Cobra XS and pliers wrench XS (100mm)

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Note the small dots: it seems the pliers are made by metal injection molding.
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Thanks for sharing. For me they look “Cute and small” but are they useful? Please share how they can be utilized.
 

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Please share how they can be utilized.
For me they're for taking when you otherwise wouldn't have any wrench or plier. Think this and a knife in your pocket.

And in that sort of case I'm taking only one, so it's the Cobra because in this size it can do well enough everything the pliers wrench does, and a lot more that the PW can't.

Others will find uses I'm sure but I don't think I'd buy the PW XS again. And I'd probably get the 125 Cobra instead of the XS Cobra as I have space for it everywhere I take the XS.
 
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Any recent experience ordering from Europe to US? Interested in what kind of charges there are now. Is there a rough percentage? I'm interested in ordering from Mister Worker and wondering what to expect.
 
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