Tools from the old world

[mrtools]

Finally decided to repaint one of my vices so i got some stuff last week:
brush from the local big box store
combined bottle/paint can opener from Stiko

Very nice painting project + a good tools too
how old a vise?
can you post a complete painting vise?

My new oldskool tool for 1Eur. Germany or China, I don't mind, simply I like it
I found this one in some pawn shop, it's about 40 years old, but still works perfectly That 5,- means 5kč=20 Cents

Looks very old and tired but it nice

Found this tiny knife from "Robi Klaas" in my desk:

It not happen to me Lucky guy

I lurk on this board all the time, but came upon this thread today and just had to sign up!
Does anyone know where these Proxxon offset wrenches are built:
I am in the market for some nice offset wrenches and so far, I've found the Proxxon above, this Wiha set and a Stahlwille set[/URL].
The Proxxon look great and they come with a nice case. It's hard to say no to that price, but something tells me that these probably aren't made in the "old world". Which set would you all buy? Is there another brand I should be looking at?

Go to Stahlwille..the company makes awesome wrenches = forged and finish in Germany

After falling that link I noticed the old Pentel mech pencils I used to use in school suddenly are valuable. So I picked this up today for $4.65 with tax.
The black one I've had since around 2000, oddly enough I wasn't allowed to use it in drafting. I switched out the internals with a frends pencil and it uses 0.9mm lead.

Nice

Sandvik Saw

Awesome saw, no doubt Sandvik/Bahco made very good cutting tools

NT Cutter knife www.ntcutter.co.jp

Nice! How do you like this?

"Raaco" Storage box :

Nice and very useable box

@Zorro13
@Jensputzeir
@y20dth

Here in Malaysia Hoffmann Group is the alternative when we need to purchases a good quality European/Germany tools if no authorized dealer for the manufacturer..
But i have a very bad experience with Hoffmann Group in Malaysia, I am plan to buy a Wera, Wiha, Bessey, PB Swiss, and Peddinghaus and tried to get a quotations but after 1 weeks waiting and go to their office/shop he said, I have to wait around 2 day..until now they have no answer. May be I am not listed their Garant and Holex stuff!

 

[mrtools]

One of my old screwdrivers, bought it since I was in high school
I went at a local hardware shop yesterday, a sets (6 pcs) of this screwdrivers still in the markets for just RM50 or $16,60 or 11,60 Euro

 

[shermanland]

Maybe similar tools had been posted but here goes ... Unior Made in Slovenia

Hi, I've been seeing this kind of brands almost every hardware in the city. Can you tell me more about Unior.

 

[JayL]

Hi, I've been seeing this kind of brands almost every hardware in the city. Can you tell me more about Unior.

Maybe our European members can give better feedback and the ranking of Unior among European tool manufacturers.

Those Unior pliers and screwdrivers you quoted are working fine for more than a year and a half now in a commercial auto shop. Beaten but still works great.

Here's the site

http://www.uniortools.com/product-catalogue

 

[shermanland]

Maybe similar tools had been posted but here goes ... Unior Made in Slovenia

Maybe our European members can give better feedback and the ranking of Unior among European tool manufacturers.

Those Unior pliers and screwdrivers you quoted are working fine for more than a year and a half now in a commercial auto shop. Beaten but still works great.

Here's the site

http://www.uniortools.com/product-catalogue

I'm impressed. I thought it was made in India under a European company.

How much it cost you for the set of pliers and screwsdrivers, including the shipment?

 

[dykmore]

My beloved 7,65Br tool, made in W.Germany in 1970

And his friend from Brasil

 

[JayL]

I'm impressed. I thought it was made in India under a European company.

How much it cost you for the set of pliers and screwsdrivers, including the shipment?

I paid around 2,500 Philippine Pesos ($58) for the pliers and screwdrivers. Purchased locally here in my location.

 

[jensputzier]

@Zorro13
@Jensputzeir
@y20dth

Here in Malaysia Hoffmann Group is the alternative when we need to purchases a good quality European/Germany tools if no authorized dealer for the manufacturer..
But i have a very bad experience with Hoffmann Group in Malaysia, I am plan to buy a Wera, Wiha, Bessey, PB Swiss, and Peddinghaus and tried to get a quotations but after 1 weeks waiting and go to their office/shop he said, I have to wait around 2 day..until now they have no answer. May be I am not listed their Garant and Holex stuff!

I can buy from the Hoffmann Group, so if there is anything you need, let me know!

Jens

 

[Moose-LandTran]

Mine for today, My new (used) Koken 3/4"-drive ratchet:

Went down to a friend's new tyre shop, and saw some nice Hazet tyre levers:

 

[Monte]

I seen to remember wanting that or a similar knife, you have a link for getting one here?

http://www.windowtint.com/shop/NT-Cutter-Cartridge-Knife.html

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B001U6UOG8/?tag=atomicindus08-20

Interesting. All I see here is US, UK, and Israeli storage containers. I wonder if I can get them here.

http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/br...&Ntt=raaco&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&D=*raaco*

http://www.newark.com/jsp/search/br...&Ntt=raaco&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&D=*raaco*

Maybe Monte knows, where they source their pliers and screwdrivers from.

Garant screwdrivers are from PB Swiss Tools, Holex screwdrivers from Wiha.
Don´t know about the pliers, usually the rebadged ones are from Orbis or Will.

Very nice painting project + a good tools too
how old a vise?
can you post a complete painting vise?

when it´s finished i will. Maybe on sunday
I don´t know exactly how old it is, it came mounted on a old wooden workbench with a wooden door and drawers, i guess like 30 or 40 years ?

It not happen to me Lucky guy

but you have nice english screwdrivers instead !

Nice! How do you like this?

I like it very much ! Feels good in my hands, nicely made cast metal housing, good paint job, functional "auto lock" mechanism, simple + efficient "clean" design. My favourite ! (right now )

another pic for you

one question about Bosch 10.8-2-LI, surprisingly a lot of play(when new) in the chuck or shaft bearings,much more than the others 10.8v drills we have.
Have you ever heard of this kind of problem in Germany?

There is a thread about that in the german Bosch forum. Bosch said that there is a revised version of the drill. I´ve not yet checked them if they are better now.

Mine for today, My new (used) Koken 3/4"-drive ratchet:

nice ratchet + torque wrench!

Went down to a friend's new tyre shop, and saw some nice Hazet tyre levers:

a friend with taste !







Sandvik Lindström electronic pliers
www.lindstromtools.com

 

[AutomatiquE]

@americanlockpicker : I've got some Israeli storage boxes too. They're well made but still not better than the Raaco. I know it's just about plastic, but when you handle these Danish boxes, you can feel the difference in term of quality. i recommand you them

@Zorro13, @jensputzier, @y20dth : In France Hoffmann is avaialble for private persons. I order throug them and i'm aware about their Garand connection with Stahlwille-Hazet. What i wanted to know is if there are any differences about the quality between a Garand wrenche and an original Stahlwille, Hazet or else. I mean Hoffmann sell rebranded PBSwiss drivers at an incredible cheaper price than the original one. Do they have a cheaper finish too?

@shermanland : Unior is made in Slovenia, former Yugoslavia. they always had a good reputation and affordable prices. Do a search about a GJ member named "Jure", he's got some interresting Unior stuffs

@mrtools : What's the blade's lenght of the biggest Stanley driver ? 200 or 250 mm ? Do you use them often ?

@dykmore : Very nice PP, i like this old blue finish

@Moose-LandTran : Very beautifull Koken, definatly a serious brand

@Monte : Do you use this nice electronic plier or it's for your personal museum ?

 

[Monte]

@Monte : Do you use this nice electronic plier or it's for your personal museum ?

I only bought it because it only was 5.-€ and i needed a "Lindström" tool for my collection ....i was looking for mini side cutters...

 

[Bhae]

Today: King Tony.

 

[AutomatiquE]

Bhae, any COO ont this Unison toolbox ?

ps : looks like this one : http://www.uniortools.com/product-fr?doc=15774&prod=17913

 

[Jure]

Hi, I've been seeing this kind of brands almost every hardware in the city. Can you tell me more about Unior.

made in Slovenia (Europe) and all their tools are made by them,and all made in Slovenia,not in china like some other "big name" brands... all in all their wrenches are pretty expensive and they are solid,pliers are fine,but stay away from their screwdrivers,tried some and they were just too "soft" for me (since i use em as a pry bar for tire) but like i said you cant go wrong with unior wrenches,also ratchets and sockets are nice too... here's the unior site

http://www.uniortools.com/

 

[Bhae]

Bhae, any COO ont this Unison toolbox ?

ps : looks like this one : http://www.uniortools.com/product-fr?doc=15774&prod=17913

Unison are made in china by torintools.
But no COO in package.

 

[AutomatiquE]

^^Thanks for info This cantilever is not bad at all for a Chinese product

 

[Bhae]

^^Thanks for info This cantilever is not bad at all for a Chinese product

Torintools has some good products.

Kingtony:

Torintools:

 

[american lockpicker]

My beloved 7,65Br tool, made in W.Germany in 1970

That is so nice. I held one at the last gun show I attended and it felt great in my hand and was very well made unlike the US made Walthers. I'm planning on buying a 7.65 CZ 83 after I get that Sig P226R German in a month or so.

Also found these at my grandmothers.

I wonder if Philips made it?

OEM to Sandvik or Bahco?

 

[Zorro13]

I can concur on the quality of all Hoffmann brands/tools.

If at all possible, try and find an industrial client who orders from them, and try to order thru the industrial client. The discount you can get as a good (high volume)customer is unsurpassed.
Prices of those high quality german tools suddenly drop to asian levels. A tool addicts dream, as good as ***, without the physical strain.

From what I can tell you the rebates differ depending on the brand you wanna buy. Industrial buyers usually get the highest discounts at Hoffmann on original Stahlwille tools. Discounts on Hazet and Gedore are about 10% worse. The genuine Hoffman brands are discounted in the same range as Hazet/Gedore but their base price is already lower.

If you compare internet prices for end customers from various dealers you end up at a very similar price level as buying under industrial conditions, because a private person always has to pay VAT (in Germany 19%), which eats up a large piece of your discount. This means you only get prices down to Taiwan/Chinese levels if you own a shop / business AND you have to be a good customer at Hoffman, since the rebates also depend on the revenue you make with them.

 

[Monte]

@Monte
Ok,thank you, then it is a 3rd 10.8v model with chuck...

3rd model without wobble now ?

Now you have the right cutter =NT Cutter
I prefer cutter with screw lock,Nt cutter of course

i like "auto lock" better

Bosch 10.8V Weida chuck,made in China probably.

thanks for the pic ! I always wondered who makes the chucks for Bosch.

Larson cutters

nice !!!
Do you own Momento impact sockets too ?


@Bhae:
nice tools !!!




some more for the wrench collection:

Gedore 1B

Gedore 7-XL , the longest combination wrenches manufactured in Germany.

 

[jensputzier]

If you compare internet prices for end customers from various dealers you end up at a very similar price level as buying under industrial conditions, because a private person always has to pay VAT (in Germany 19%), which eats up a large piece of your discount. This means you only get prices down to Taiwan/Chinese levels if you own a shop / business AND you have to be a good customer at Hoffman, since the rebates also depend on the revenue you make with them.

Well that is true if you live in Germany. The private end user always has to pay VAT. But then if you get a discount it is still cheaper than without a discount, right?

But if you (private person) live outside of the European Union then you do not have to pay VAT. So if you live in the USA and order from a German dealer like me, you do not pay VAT. As long as the tools are physically exported outside of the European Union.

 

[north]

Hey Monte, can you show some pics of the two Gedore wrenches side by side to show the side of the beam?
I have a 1b 13mm too which I bought for a spesific purpose back in the 80's. Don't remember what it was but the deep offset thin-wall box end did the trick. Don't like the sharp handle though.

 

[Monte]

Hey Monte, can you show some pics of the two Gedore wrenches side by side to show the side of the beam?
I have a 1b 13mm too which I bought for a spesific purpose back in the 80's. Don't remember what it was but the deep offset thin-wall box end did the trick. Don't like the sharp handle though.

Hi North,
i can take some pics later, i only have comparison pics of the "7" and "7-XL" and a family pic right now

Gedore "7" on top, "7-XL" below:

7-XL head on the left

7-XL beam on the left

7-XL box end on the left

Gedore 7
Gedore 1B
Gedore 7-XL

Hazet 600N vs. Gedore 7-XL

btw. for the NT Cutter fans

 

[north]

Ok Monte. Thanks for the pics so far. Don't be shy of including Hazet and Stahlwille in the comparison pic too.

 

[dykmore]

Some time ago I got these side-cut pliers for 2Eur in local pawn shop. I only knew I need them, but nothing about Garant brand - for "small" tools like this, is it good choice or not? Does Garant have something with Stahlwille?

 

[servito]

no I´m serious ! Bavarian and Schwäbisch is difficult to understand too ....
They should start to learn german

Hahaha, thanks for the tip, I will try to stay away from those Germans, or in any need of communication I would try to switch to English

lol good choice !!

btw: tool forums in germany:
www.werkzeug-forum.de
www.werkzeug-news.de

Thanks Monte

nice Bosch gun ! Didn´t know that they once made one !! cool !

Well, you know that you won't go to sleep without having learnt something new, now you know Bosch once made such tool (or somebody did for Bosch)
It has been at home for more than 20 years and it still works.

Took some pics of my fathers soldering equipment:

Weller Record soldering gun

Engel Löter
....and a Bostik hot glue gun

Nice soldering irons, have you and your father used them much?
Mine (well, it's from my father) has seen little use, to say the truth.

nice Bosch

Thanks mrtools

 

[cliceu]

A few more packages arrived.

Wera, Athlet, NWS, Knipex, PB Swiss and Famag:

A mini toy

The look is very nice, the sound of the ratchet sounds great

Metal body

Side by side

This will follow along with the HEXAnamic. Never too screwdrivers.

Cap is a continuation of the blade, never use in electricity services.

Could not miss things VDE.

I found only version VDE this:

It took, but I found NWS Quattro-Grip:

Old stock PB Baumann.

The case is not robust, but the content looks very nice.

Always have to get things in tight places, this will help a lot.

Even stronger magnet.

I did a little test, real work, but do not use excessive force.

Here in Brazil it is hard to find, even in specialty stores.

Sorry for the long post.

 

[AutomatiquE]

^^ Congratulation, nice quality tools

 

[american lockpicker]

Nice PB awl.

 

[decaf]

A few more packages arrived.

Wera, Athlet, NWS, Knipex, PB Swiss and Famag:

Sorry for the long post.

Very, very nice tools, have fun with them!

 

[shermanland]

made in Slovenia (Europe) and all their tools are made by them,and all made in Slovenia,not in china like some other "big name" brands... all in all their wrenches are pretty expensive and they are solid,pliers are fine,but stay away from their screwdrivers,tried some and they were just too "soft" for me (since i use em as a pry bar for tire) but like i said you cant go wrong with unior wrenches,also ratchets and sockets are nice too... here's the unior site

http://www.uniortools.com/

Thank you for the info. I appreciated.

 

[north]

*Snip*

Sorry for the long post.

You are kidding right?

Awsome tools and awesome pictures cliceu. Need to get me one of those flexible grippers.

 

[ultgar]

Facom's version of the (Wera) compact bit driver set.....

 

[dykmore]

Cliceu: Super!!! But the awl leads the way

 

[bart1]

A few more packages arrived.
...

You are getting quite a nice selection of tools! Not sure what my fave is out of all you have pictured, but those Gedore ratchets look like tanks!

 

[Sick Puppy]

A few more packages arrived.

Sorry for the long post.

No worries re: length of post, pics are awesome!

Now, I've quoted the last two pics, since I've no idea what it is. Well, I might have an idea, but can you tell me what it is and what you use it for please?

 

[Rossco]

Found this in the garage rafters .. Used while building a crate ..

Carver Made in England .. Pretty decent clamp for sure ..

 

[Rossco]

can you tell me what it is and what you use it for please?

Counter sink

 

[north]

Found this in the garage rafters .. Used while building a crate ..

Carver Made in England .. Pretty decent clamp for sure ..
*snip*

Man, that's a beautiful clamp. £70-£80 new from a quick glance on ebay.uk. Better start saving then...