littletoes
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Che poster...would make a great target! 
I'm no communist.....some good tools in there though.
I'm no communist.....some good tools in there though.
Tools from the old world
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dykmore
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littletoes: I'm not a communist too, it's just a recession
mvptrukin, Monte: it's York, very big York... Any suggestions about year of manufacture and COO? And although it's not for sale, is it some rare thing? For me it is just normal old vise...
Monte, those Knipex pliers wouldn't satisfy you, they took a lot of abuse during their sad life...
mvptrukin, Monte: it's York, very big York... Any suggestions about year of manufacture and COO? And although it's not for sale, is it some rare thing? For me it is just normal old vise...
Monte, those Knipex pliers wouldn't satisfy you, they took a lot of abuse during their sad life...
i don´t know about the age but coo should be Czech Republic ! http://york.cz/
You can find York vises in german "Obi" home improvement stores so they´re common here too. Seems to be good quality at a good price.
ooops, you can keep them
Some drill bits:
"Craftomat" HSS-G drill bits sold at "Bauhaus" stores made by
www.Koch-Bohrer.de
3,3mm for 3,2mm pop rivets and core drill to cut M4 threads.
Dewalt "Extreme 2" HSS-G drill bit. 4,2mm = core drill for M5 threads.
"GE.....RMANY"....
dykmore
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Rusik: thanks! 
Monte: I told you Today I bought 200mm combi pliers in Obi. I knew their "profi" line pliers with red handles were rebranded NWS, but now the red line is gone and OBi offers different profi models with blue handles. Could you tell me, are these blue pliers made by NWS too? There is written "Made in Germany" on the one side of jaws, "ISO 5746 Solingen" on the other side. I were surprised by the price too, 10Eur - the red ones were two times more expensive.
This is the image that you posted here some time ago. I own the right ones:
And I bought these pliers today:
Monte: I told you
Today I bought 200mm combi pliers in Obi. I knew their "profi" line pliers with red handles were rebranded NWS, but now the red line is gone and OBi offers different profi models with blue handles. Could you tell me, are these blue pliers made by NWS too? There is written "Made in Germany" on the one side of jaws, "ISO 5746 Solingen" on the other side. I were surprised by the price too, 10Eur - the red ones were two times more expensive.This is the image that you posted here some time ago. I own the right ones:
And I bought these pliers today:
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yes thats 100% made by NWS ! They changed the handle color a while ago , the el cheapo pliers are blue too.
10 euro is cheap, maybe wrong price tag ? if not you could sell a bunch here on GJ
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dykmore
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Thanks! It was an action price, normal price is 449 Kč = 18 Euro. There was only one last piece 
But I have to say that the quality of red pliers line was better in every way - better finish, tighter tolerances, and jaws can be opened more more wide:
But I have to say that the quality of red pliers line was better in every way - better finish, tighter tolerances, and jaws can be opened more more wide:
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you can´t go wrong with knipex
Monte who told you that I don't need one of my two kidneys?
Come on man, I need more gedore tools.
Thanks! It was an action price, normal price is 449 Kč = 18 Euro. There was only one last piece
i don´t know, i like the new ones because the head is painted black and ground and the red ones had this discoloration from the heat treatment which didn´t look that good imho. Sometimes some pliers also look better than others even if they are the same (same size, manufacturer, style etc.)
Monte who told you that I don't need one of my two kidneys?
Come on man, I need more gedore tools.
i think nowadays they have these mechanical robot kidneys to implant
....Gedore....and Knipex....
Schwalbe bicycle tire levers 3 pc. set www.schwalbe.de
I bought today. second-hand.
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mvptrukin
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dykmore,
Thanks for the close up of the York vise,there are numerous threads on the forum about our addiction to vises,I was thinking what a small world it was to see a Wilton vise,made in the USA, in a work shop in the Czech republic.However, after seeing the closeup I remembered the story that the founder of Wilton, a Mr Vogel, was a refugee from Prague and "borrowed" the design from York.
From this thread: www.garagejournal.com//forum/showthread.php?t=111502
Thanks for the close up of the York vise,there are numerous threads on the forum about our addiction to vises,I was thinking what a small world it was to see a Wilton vise,made in the USA, in a work shop in the Czech republic.However, after seeing the closeup I remembered the story that the founder of Wilton, a Mr Vogel, was a refugee from Prague and "borrowed" the design from York.
From this thread: www.garagejournal.com//forum/showthread.php?t=111502
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bought some at flea market few moments ago
what # 37 stands for? (next to "made in germany") open end will be cleaned with steel wire wheel,dont know if i'm gonna clean box one or i will keep it like that... someone know how old is box wrench?
what # 37 stands for? (next to "made in germany") open end will be cleaned with steel wire wheel,dont know if i'm gonna clean box one or i will keep it like that... someone know how old is box wrench?
You didn't notice any difference with the grease? I'm not sure I want to cut the springs, I'll probably let the wear in instead. But if someone found a greasing helped a bit I might do that.
not the OEM but available from several companies
http://www.stahlwille-online.de/pictures/all/12053_fot_012.jpg
Yeah, I knew that SNA has some German made small hacksaws, so even without brand or COO I felt it was worth the price. The bent front makes it good for tight places.
Can't say the Palmera pliers are super. For the price they were great, but my Knipex stuff is what sees use. As a unusual collection filler they're nice also, I like the green color.
for me it´s not a problem either, i only wanted to warn the (american) consumer that they might get something different than they expected so they are not sad or disappointed. Because tools in america are usually perfectly finished it seems (except Craftsman maybe
I checked mine now also, and the grinding on the heads are not perfect here either. I got to be honest and say I prefer a nice finish (NWS is a good example of a German manufacturer with a high quality finish), but this is within acceptable levels. I think some imperfections is more acceptable on a satin finish also than it would be on a full polish wrench. No doubt the Americans have higher expectations on tool "bling-bling" though.
After reading this I went to the local Bauhaus to check if the Wiha made ones were on sale. But here the new ones had not come. The shelves were still only Wiha made stuff. I'll have to check occasionally now though, getting some Wiha stuff cheap would be nice
Oh, and new avatar (sold the Jetta) but don't be confused, still me.
man i have seem like 10 cracked gedore in last 10 days,we were working on my friends motorcycle,i noticed that he has 21 mm gedore cracked socket,my uncle has 19 or 22 cracked,today on flea market i seen 6 or 7 all cracked... wtf is wrong with gedore??? 
btw some of them were 6 pt and some 12.
btw some of them were 6 pt and some 12.Bonus pic:
Gedore 1/4" set. Not mine, no idea of age.
looks like 80's
Yes but only a little. When (if) you opened them take a look at the spring. It's very easy if you have the non reversible. You can see how stiff it is. I have opened some other Taiwanese ratcheting wrenches and no one has so stiff spring.
Of course it's not necessary to cut it. You can change it if you want. Or you can leave it as it is. Neither do i know if i will cut the spring to the rest. It's not bother me so much.
man i have seem like 10 cracked gedore in last 10 days,we were working on my friends motorcycle,i noticed that he has 21 mm gedore cracked socket,my uncle has 19 or 22 cracked,today on flea market i seen 6 or 7 all cracked... wtf is wrong with gedore???
I also have seen some. Especially 17, 19, 21. Some of them were very old and most of them were cracked from impact gun.
Are these made in Germany? Do you see if all the peaces has the "Germany"?
Ok. Thanks, then I know some options if I want to change it.
All pieces are not marked Germany. The ratchet and the breaker bar is not marked at all. Sockets, T-handle and the U-joint is marked Gedore Germany. Could perhaps be that the ratchet and breaker bar is replaced, but seems strange when the kit seems to be in so good condition.
If they doesn't say gedore then they aren't gedore. If they say gedore and hasn't the Germany, they are from Afirca.
But maybe i'm wrong. Monte will known better i suppose.
monte may be able to answer this query for me.
Gedore D19 sockets , marked Germany also with a indent RE , they are full bright chrome. The splines seem flank type drive, construction details different to the traditional D19 sockets that I have purchased for almost 35 years +
They look as if they may in fact be made in Taiwan - they lack that Germanic look & feel of utility matt chrome & bog standard bi-hex spline
strange
Gedore D19 sockets , marked Germany also with a indent RE , they are full bright chrome. The splines seem flank type drive, construction details different to the traditional D19 sockets that I have purchased for almost 35 years +
They look as if they may in fact be made in Taiwan - they lack that Germanic look & feel of utility matt chrome & bog standard bi-hex spline
strange
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littletoes
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Those Stahwille box end wrenches look like the mack-daddy....like to try a set of those at work!
This weekend I found (In addition other tools)
Armak car body hammers and they are made in Turkey, first time I ever heard tools from Turkey and my surprise quality and finish beats all other,
Simply best looking hammers I have ever seen.
Bougth then unused and 1€/piece, only drawback was that one did not have handel, so I had few random Gedore handels, little sort, but will do for now.
Best score from weekend was original pre 1965, Öberg S-shape files, NOS! and very special desing, like made for clearing intake.
And 3/8" ratchets, old Belzer ratchet is from era before Bahco bought comppany.
And Hazet round nose pliers, but here in this picture just for size comparison, for files
Armak car body hammers and they are made in Turkey, first time I ever heard tools from Turkey and my surprise quality and finish beats all other,
Simply best looking hammers I have ever seen.
Bougth then unused and 1€/piece, only drawback was that one did not have handel, so I had few random Gedore handels, little sort, but will do for now.
Best score from weekend was original pre 1965, Öberg S-shape files, NOS! and very special desing, like made for clearing intake.
And 3/8" ratchets, old Belzer ratchet is from era before Bahco bought comppany.
And Hazet round nose pliers, but here in this picture just for size comparison, for files
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dykmore
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You are welcome, thanks for the link, very interesting. I wrote there, if you need some help, you can write me and I can translate anything from czech language that you don't understand, or find some more informations (I am Czech
)Hello everybody! Greetings from Bulgaria! I need Your opinion for 1 case. 
I had a offer for 25 euro for this complect Carolus tools tools --- http://bg.farnell.com/carolus/4004-79/socket-set-1-4-in-metal-case/dp/9791353
How do you think? It is good brand and tools or no?????
I had a offer for 25 euro for this complect Carolus tools tools --- http://bg.farnell.com/carolus/4004-79/socket-set-1-4-in-metal-case/dp/9791353 How do you think? It is good brand and tools or no?????
Hello everybody! Greetings from Bulgaria! I need Your opinion for 1 case.
How do you think? It is good brand and tools or no?????
its good price...carolus is part of gedore. they are not expensive,quality is nice,dont know if they are made in germany tho..but for that price its good deal
dykmore
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Mitkoasd: As Jure says...
I got this VDE screwdriver in one strange "baumarkt". Wonder if it's really made in Germany, or is it some chinese fake? Because I saw absolutely similar one with another brand name (Honiton), but with no Germany origin written on it. Anybody knows?
I got this VDE screwdriver in one strange "baumarkt". Wonder if it's really made in Germany, or is it some chinese fake? Because I saw absolutely similar one with another brand name (Honiton), but with no Germany origin written on it. Anybody knows?
nice set
wow beautiful wrenches !!! I would keep them like that !! historic documents !
what´s not good about them ?
Gedore pliers also look better than their wrenches
I think in most cases the finish is ok, sometimes there is a bigger flaw, but ok, i think in most cases nobody will care except private users because the employee who need a wrench to tighten a screw on a MAN truck or shipyard or wind turbine doesn´t care about the finish since it´s just a tool which the employer provides. In the US it´s different since the mechanics have to buy their own tools so if you spend something out of your own pocket you want to have something nice or beautiful which attracts the eye more i think. "Bling Bling" is also not wanted by everybody, over here often the customer thinks the more "bling bling" a product has the worse the quality.
over here no sale....i think they can send everything back to the manufacturer or got rid of everything and sold it to a liquidator.After reading this I went to the local Bauhaus to check if the Wiha made ones were on sale. But here the new ones had not come. The shelves were still only Wiha made stuff. I'll have to check occasionally now though, getting some Wiha stuff cheap would be nice
so we can expect a lot of new tools from the Bahco store ?
the ratchet dont look german
i guess fake.... ?
never have seen bright Gedore sockets...(except 1/4"dr.)
Does it really say "Gedore" ...? Cant see sh*t , too blurry
indeed nice looking ! Never heard of them either. But here some turkish hand tool manufacturers:
www.cetaform.com.tr
www.gedore-altas.com.tr
www.izeltas.com.tr
Hello everybody! Greetings from Bulgaria! I need Your opinion for 1 case.
How do you think? It is good brand and tools or no?????
for that price you can´t go wrong ! List price in 2010 was 64,90 E + tax. Made in China/Taiwan but good quality says the Gedore rep.
They sell them here too, maybe there is a chinese copy of it.....they copy everything....
window shopping
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Hello everybody! Greetings from Bulgaria! I need Your opinion for 1 case.
How do you think? It is good brand and tools or no?????
They are not made in Germany. Neither Taiwan. Probably from China. The sockets looks good. Here some pics that i had posted once.
Carolus 3/8 on the right.
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The sliding T handle and the extension has very good fitment and only a small play with the socket.
The u-joint hasn't a pin like some other but screw. I don't know how robust it is thought. I have the same and it hold very well until now but i'm occasional user.
The driving handle is exactly like the Gedore one but only outside. It doesn't hold the extension so well. Not so tight.
The ratchet..
Xmm well I don't like it. It has very coarse tooth. I try it once and never touch it again.
I don't know something about the bit socket but for 25 Euro? All these? I think that the price is very good. And the tools aren't bad. I don't know how they will handle the everyday use or how durable their finish is but for 25 Euro they worth a try.
The Gedore handle.
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And here is the newer ratchet from Taiwan. You can also find it from a different brand.
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just found these nice looking SW-Stahl pliers from a well known german manufacturer
http://www.tool-is.com/category/65373/65402
http://www.tool-is.com/category/65373/65402
Hello, Mitkoasd. Болгария ПРИВЕТ
just found these nice looking SW-Stahl pliers from a well known german manufacturer
http://www.tool-is.com/category/65373/65402
Nice! These are Made in Germany, or not?
to me it looks like "german" nvs..
just found these nice looking SW-Stahl pliers from a well known german manufacturer
http://www.tool-is.com/category/65373/65402
If you turn the language to English they disappear. Thats why i hadn't seen them.
