Tools from the old world
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Cheers North. It's 1023mm x 725mm x 1000mm (W x D x H) and the cost was £1000 inc VAT and delivery, plus a little more for the extras (foam, dividers, spanner rack). It's from the pre-configured range (so a limited selection of drawer configs and either blue or grey) -so is a bit less expensive than any made-to-order units.
It weighs ~230Kg empty. The drawers each have a 200Kg weight limit (apart from the very top 50mm drawer which is 75Kg - due to not being able to fit the 200Kg slides I assume), and the cabinet can support 4000Kg.
Now the only problem is being able to pay for the Snap On cabinets that it eats for breakfast.
Edit: I should say, I purchased it from these folks: http://www.listacabinets.co.uk/ who were excellent to deal with and very passionate about the product.
Hi all,
Haven't found time to post here but here is some pictures from summer.
Bougth a lathe...
Never use one and have't started it yet.
"Mr." Blomqvist, from sweden. Bowl or table it sits is made in Germany, Siemens "electronics" instruction are dated from 1952. Seems that company that made this lathe outsourced bench from Germany. Not a single Philips or Pozidrive scres are in that cabinet, all plates are screwed to metal frame with slotted screws.
I bougth that Gedore toolbox from same place, on that you can see socketset by Dowidat:
I try to collect Dowidat tools, a company bought by Gedore in 1986(?), since Dowidat tools got really good desing.
Dowidat used to paint their sockets from inside with silver paint so as soon as sockets got used, it can be seen from tool. This is by waranty or by fact you know you bought new tools, I do not know. You can see wear on one bigger sockets.
Haven't found time to post here but here is some pictures from summer.
Bougth a lathe...
Never use one and have't started it yet.
"Mr." Blomqvist, from sweden. Bowl or table it sits is made in Germany, Siemens "electronics" instruction are dated from 1952. Seems that company that made this lathe outsourced bench from Germany. Not a single Philips or Pozidrive scres are in that cabinet, all plates are screwed to metal frame with slotted screws.
I bougth that Gedore toolbox from same place, on that you can see socketset by Dowidat:
I try to collect Dowidat tools, a company bought by Gedore in 1986(?), since Dowidat tools got really good desing.
Dowidat used to paint their sockets from inside with silver paint so as soon as sockets got used, it can be seen from tool. This is by waranty or by fact you know you bought new tools, I do not know. You can see wear on one bigger sockets.
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using it at work - nice product
btw: somehow I know that you would buy the wera xmax calender
added also some pix of the 2 new uvex ultrasonics safety glasses (it fits perfect over my regular glasses) , 3m mask, hazet trolley
thanks for the pix ! Whats the blue thing in the last pic ? Plastic pipe welder ?
A truckload of Awesome has just turned up at my door, direct from Switzerland!
Awesome cabinet
nice lathe ! want one too
How much ? btw. nice Dowidat tool set ! Do you have a larger pic of the ratchet ? It looks like it has a nice beam design !?!?
willhollin
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A truckload of Awesome has just turned up at my door, direct from Switzerland!
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Here with a sample of the foam drawer liners, dividers, and spanner racks test-fitted:
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I'm jealous!Have you got rid of the other one?
Awesome cabinet
Thanks (again)!
A few more pics. Just messing about here. I'm sure I'll reorganise things a few times before I settle on something, and I have more tools to fit in, and trays and racks to order.
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This one definitely hasn't been sitting around in the back waiting for my order:
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Have you got rid of the other one?
Not yet, but I certainly need to now. Both from the space and cashflow perspective
I've got the Beta boxes up on ebay if you know anybody who might be keen. Prices if sold off of ebay will certainly be better
N.I.
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Now that is a beast!
Does it come with a selection of dividers or are they extra?
Also, would you mind taking a photo of this against say your Beta chests with a couple draws open? It is hard to visualise the size of it compared to a normal chest.
I am running out of room again and am debating whether or not to just buy a third Halfords chest or seek something a bit better.
That lista looks mighty tempting.
I had to order the dividers extra - I've just bought a small sample selection for now so I can decide how I might use them.
I'll do my best for a comparison shot, but there's a ridiculous pile of **** between this box and the Beta on the other side of the garage at the moment. I did calculate that I have ~52% more usable drawer area in this box than in the Beta stack.
In the photo above with the hammers -the grey foam pieces that they're sitting on were ones I had cut for the Beta, so you can see that nearly 2.5 Beta drawers would fit in each of this Lista's. These drawers are also deeper than the Beta's are wide.
Here's a pic of the largest ratcheting spanner that's in that drawer, so it might give you a better idea of the scale as well:
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And of course there are loads of different sizes of cabinets and drawer configs available, even within the "pre-configured" series.
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shoturtle
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The aldi workzone boxes are about the quality of the Harbor Freight boxes in the US. The metal is a bit thicker then the craftsman mid boxes that on on top. But for the price of 150 euros, you really can not beat the price. Einhall has the same box in blue but a bit more money. But these are consumer grade boxes.
The wisent box is nice, I like the storage layout for my power tools. I'll try to post some photos later of the drawers and side cabinet. It is well suited power tool storage. The metal is consumer grade, like the aldi workzone. But for 399 on sale, it was a good deal.
We have proto boxes at work, and neither of these boxes are on that level of quality, but they cost less then 1/3 the price.
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shoturtle
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Well, there is one simple solution to that!
My wife will not allow me to get anymore tools. I got 700 euros in tool charts, actually a bit less with a discount voucher at bauhaus for the wisent box. But she is not going to be very happy if I buy enough tools to the empty drawer in the 3 carts.
A happy wife is a happy life
N.I.
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Thanks for the info. It really is excellent value when you add everything up, especially with the 200kg drawer capacity. Would be a tad bit harder to steal as well
.You have given me something to think about.
thanks for the pix ! Whats the blue thing in the last pic ? Plastic pipe welder ?
correct thats what we use it for - heats up on both sides
that would be nice if you can show some pictures. Dont know how I should organise my stuff although atm I still have to buy more of the basic tools (gedore hammers are next on the list).
ultgar
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I've done a lot of Lista cabinet drawer configurations over the past 16 years. It looks like an ES or HS cabinet (wider than it is deeper) and I've found that partitioning left to right instead of front to back will allow you to get more in the drawer. It's also best to keep the Facom wrenches in the module trays for optimizing space.
Facom tools and Lista cabinets....great combination! Stanley through so and bought both companies. SD
Gert
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This is my latest catch - a set of Stahlwille deep offset metric ring spanners, size 6 - 32 mm. After cleaning I found an interesting text on every spanner that I did not notice earlier because of the dirt - STRONGER THAN ANY BOLT. Wow! Me very lucky 
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I am curious how old this set is, anyone a clue?
.I am curious how old this set is, anyone a clue?
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Ok, now I'm booking some tickets with Ryan Air to go and steal your box! Too bad it will probably not be possible to bring back as carry-on
Amazing stuff, congratulations on a beautiful setup!
My wife will not allow me to get anymore tools. I got 700 euros in tool charts, actually a bit less with a discount voucher at bauhaus for the wisent box. But she is not going to be very happy if I buy enough tools to the empty drawer in the 3 carts.
A happy wife is a happy life
I understand. All too well... You'll have to spread it out a bit to get away with it.
That a nice setup! More pics? Yours?
This is my latest catch - a set of Stahlwille deep offset metric ring spanners, size 6 - 32 mm. After cleaning I found an interesting text on every spanner that I did not notice earlier because of the dirt - STRONGER THAN ANY BOLT. Wow! Me very lucky
Great with a complete matching set! And in such good condition.
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thanks ! Very beautiful ratchet ! Very good design !!
Lathe got price of 1500€ and extra 50€ for Gedore toolbox, without tools, not for sale!
... 1500.... don´t have that anyway a lathe and a milling machine...my dream...sweet setup !!! Looks good !!!
December 1st......first door of the Wera calendar:
As Neil Young sings: Rust never sleeps...
BTW very nice spanish tools.
WD-40 spray + soft copper wire brush + old news paper to wipe mirror finish Palmera open jawshow did you remove the rust ? btw.: nice wrenches !
Awesome PICCCCSSS...thanks to shared
Nice tools!!! especially Orbis pliers
the Felo main testing screwdriver looks like my Wera, any COO stamp at the screwdriver, do you know the OEM?
Spain made Bahco ergo?
Great "tool in action" pics to show us how good the fast series wrenches
I think it a good prices for 6 piece giant wrenches
What is the wrenches hanging at the wall in the second picture is it Stahlwille Open Box 13?
do you work in the field of HVAC?
AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!A truckload of Awesome has just turned up at my door, direct from Switzerland!
Nice
great machine
That an awesome tool cart for 50 euro..I'm a big fan of Gedore Adjuntant series,
but never found here nice it look really new with the beautiful steel box
really nice quality ratchet set..Congratulation unknow82
50€ for Gedore toolbox????????are you sure!!!Lathe got price of 1500€ and extra 50€ for Gedore toolbox, without tools, not for sale!
Congratulation CanUK very nice setup
I have the same problem when decide to buy more tools..some times I bought tools without notifying herMy wife will not allow me to get anymore tools. I got 700 euros in tool charts, actually a bit less with a discount voucher at bauhaus for the wisent box. But she is not going to be very happy if I buy enough tools to the empty drawer in the 3 carts.
A happy wife is a happy life
That rightA happy wife is a happy life
Niceeeeee piecessssssssssssssssssssThis is my latest catch - a set of Stahlwille deep offset metric ring spanners, size 6 - 32 mm. After cleaning I found an interesting text on every spanner that I did not notice earlier because of the dirt - STRONGER THAN ANY BOLT. Wow! Me very lucky
rare item with STRONGER THAN ANY BOLT sloganIt's real????
I might have it wrong, but I think Stanley just bought Lista North America?
The part number for my cab is 14.514.010 (54x36E or 1023mm x 725mm x 1000mm WxDxH)- as far as I can see in the catalogues here there's no mention of EH or HS series (or any other series), but that may tie in with what I was told/cautioned about purchasing anything from the American catalogue as there are some differences in the products.
I'm with you on the Facom modules though - I plan to order a few more foam modules for my 440's, 467's, and 467f's if they have a foam module for them yet.
Edit: Here's something you might be able to help me with. From what I can tell the foam tray for the smaller 440's lays the spanners in one direction, while the tray for the large 400's lays them in the other direction. So if I sat the two modules together with all of the spanners arranged from small-to-large, some would tip towards me and some would tip away? Seems like an oversight, or am I missing something?
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decaf
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December 1st......first door of the Wera calendar:
How cool isn´t that!!!! I want one too!!!! Where can i get a calender???
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How cool isn´t that!!!! I want one too!!!! Where can i get a calender???
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Wuppertools used to have them, seems to be sold out now though. I found one swedish store that lists them, have not got any experience with the store though. http://www.verktygsladan.nu/product_info.php/cPath/183_196/products_id/1508
decaf
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Tack Frasse!!!
ultgar
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You might be right on the sale of Lista....perhaps Fredy Lienhardt (family) still owns the European company.
Not sure what the thinking was on the 440 small and large foam module trays. The thermoplastic ones are the same. I've had a few hundred custom partitions made up for he Facom thermoplastic trays in Lista boxes....LP75-22's and LP75-14's as the modules display is nicer with a partition between each one (the foam tray layout is more or less seamless and doesn't need the partitions. You can lay out your modules in the front with plenty of room for dividers and partitions at the rear for smaller sets, tools and accessories.
Thanks ! The result looks fantastic !WD-40 spray + soft copper wire brush + old news paper to wipe mirror finish Palmera open jaws
http://www.hh-werkzeug.de/euro1eng.htmlNice tools!!! especially Orbis pliers
the Felo main testing screwdriver looks like my Wera, any COO stamp at the screwdriver, do you know the OEM?
yesssss !It's real????
btw. nice action pics
How cool isn´t that!!!! I want one too!!!! Where can i get a calender???
wherever i look... "sold out" ....
door 2 of the virtual Wera calendar
a PH 2 bit
ricleh
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Monte showed the OEM. All the Felo products in the picture (screwdrivers, torx drivers and electrical testers) are made in Germany.
Amazing pics! I hope I get close to that organised
I think you're onto something using the dividers with the plastic trays. Looks sharp and probably provides a bit more support (the few Facom plastic trays I have are a bit flimsy on their own).
Krokodil
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Hi Monte, that calender is very cool. I saw them listed with my online retailer but could not understand why they were so expensive. Now I realize they come loaded with tools. Do you know what they make up in the end?
All content in the 2012 calendar. The cost probably is due to the bit ratchet.
http://www.wera.de/fileadmin/user_upload/herbst2012/Adventskalender_2012_EN.pdf
i didn´t calculate everything but the bit ratchet which is included has a retail price of 25.-€ and the impact bit set 24.50€, the calender did cost me 45.-€. So you pay for these 2 things and the rest is for free.
The content: http://www.wtn-shop.de/out/pictures/CMS/diverse/wera_adventskalender_2012.jpg
some tools in action:
first time i used one of these mini wrenches.....nuts are tight now...castors still loose
(junk...)
My first Hazet puchase, some "exotic" tools for motorcycle maintenance:
Hazet 1/4 400mm extender
Hazet 1/2 470mm breaker bar
Hazet 1/2 32mm deep socket
Got a pretty good feal for these on German Ebay.
The 1/4 extender is for reaching the rear cylinder cam chain tensioner, the breaker bar and deep socket for getting off the front sprocket nut on a DL650.
Can't wait for spring to be here to put them to work.
Hazet 1/4 400mm extender
Hazet 1/2 470mm breaker bar
Hazet 1/2 32mm deep socket
Got a pretty good feal for these on German Ebay.
The 1/4 extender is for reaching the rear cylinder cam chain tensioner, the breaker bar and deep socket for getting off the front sprocket nut on a DL650.
Can't wait for spring to be here to put them to work.
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Miskin
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My first Hazet puchase, some "exotic" tools for motorcycle maintenance:
Hazet 1/4 400mm extender
Hazet 1/2 470mm breaker bar
Hazet 1/2 32mm deep socket
Got a pretty good feal for these on German Ebay.
The 1/4 extender is for reaching the rear cylinder cam chain tensioner, the breaker bar and deep socket for getting off the front sprocket nut on a DL650.
Can't wait for spring to be here to put them to work.
Great purchases! I'm also riding a dl 650 k4 and i 'm planning to change the front sprocket from 15 to 16 teeth, but i thought a ratchet would be ok. You think i need a breaker bar?
Picked up this monster Meddings pillar drill today. Weighs about as much as a Rolls Royce. 5spd, plus a dual-range gearbox so 10 speeds total from 80-4000rpm.
It needs saying that I would not have got this if not for the efforts of Alx, who collected it (from a looong ways away), paid for it, and held on to it until I could come pick it up from him. A MASSIVE thanks to a genuine stand-up guy!
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It needs saying that I would not have got this if not for the efforts of Alx, who collected it (from a looong ways away), paid for it, and held on to it until I could come pick it up from him. A MASSIVE thanks to a genuine stand-up guy!
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shoturtle
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Here are some shots of the wisent box, the modular are from craftsman.
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Great for you, the DL is a sweet bike!
Regarding front sprocket change, that thing is 150Nm tight and red loctited from the factory, it will not budge without a breaker bar, you might even break the rathchet.
Miskin
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Thanks for the info. One more question. Why you need a deep socket? Is it more solid from an extension?
The nut is recessed about 80mm into the body of the bike and you'll need an extension if you are going to use a normal socket, which will do the job in the end, but for me it was a good opportunity to buy my first Hazet socket
Miskin
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The nut is recessed about 80mm into the body of the bike and you'll need an extension if you are going to use a normal socket, which will do the job in the end, but for me it was a good opportunity to buy my first Hazet socket
BTW an old HAZET 32mm socket
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