Tools from the old world

[willhollin]

The SAM tools look great.

@ Bhae - Where is your shop based? May have to book a holiday there next year if it's near the sea!

 

[Holt]

I really want that SAM hammer and cantilever box

 

[shoturtle]

how much for the umbrella ?







day 5:

Gedore Flaschenöffner

 

[shoturtle]

I have that knife as well, it is pretty nice, but they could have grinded down the top edge, it is not very finish. But you really can not expect that much for the price. It works well for things around the house.

 

[V70R]

Added a few Hazet items, quality is second to none.

 

[mrtools]

Thanks ! The result looks fantastic:bowdown

http://www.hh-werkzeug.de/euro1eng.html

Thanks for the link...great information

yesssss !

Awesome

btw. nice action pics

Thanks!!!

Monte showed the OEM. All the Felo products in the picture (screwdrivers, torx drivers and electrical testers) are made in Germany.

some tools in action:
first time i used one of these mini wrenches.....nuts are tight now...castors still loose (junk...)

nice tool in action...what the hammer ?

Here are some shots of the wisent box, the modular are from craftsman.

nice power tools, Swiss made Bosch?

A different sort of Old-World tool. My lad with his uncle, on his uncle's beautifully restored Norton Commando 750S. This thing makes an amazing sound:

awesome rides

hmm 34.- .... ok but its the coolest umbrella in the world
at least for us tool fans

you right..everything goods related to tools is awesome for us

Here is such a set. USSR

nice set

@ Bhae
Nice cantilever toolbox...do you know the COO? France?
I'm looking for the big and a good quality cantilever toolbox to store my tools. It's now overload in my Toyo ST-350 toolbox
for the last 2 month I do a research about the cantilever toolbox..

new version Stahlwille 8105 (no STAHLWILLE stamp on the box), no information about COO, the price is OK, considering the price, I think it not German.

Gedore 1335L COO? maybe Germany due to the price but it look very good in quality..awesome box

Hazet 190L not sure, most of the user said German, the quality is good too.

Facom BT.13A the price is very good...not sure about quality no COO maybe Taiwan.

Tone 2215 and Toyo GT-470 110% sure made in Japan
both made by Maeda Metal Industries and Toyo Steel Company Ltd. Japan, I think the quality is very good due to my experienced with my old Toyo ST-350.

The most expensive and big is Gedore 1335L but the most weight is Toyo GT-470.. maybe Toyo have to many dividers + 4 roller caster.
STAHLWILLE vs HAZET vs GEDORE vs FACOM vs TONE vs TOYO
maybe someone here can help me

 

[mrtools]

some tool in action pics here we go..

7UR

Open-Box 14

916F

Kennedy

parts to be replace..

They all from Germany

load separator element..

the tools

 

[PrecisionTools]

some tool in action pics here we go..

7UR

Whoa! Hazet ratcheting spanners...I missed that acquisition! Full set?

 

[marcone]

Whoa! Hazet ratcheting spanners...I missed that acquisition! Full set?

That's Gedore 7UR

 

[PrecisionTools]

Thats probably why I missed it.

 

[jensputzier]

Hazet 190L not sure, most of the user said German, the quality is good too.

Made in Poland

 

[knightmasks]

Bhae, How much cost SAM spanners set ?

Best Regards
António Luis.

 

[bart1]

Added a few Hazet items, quality is second to none.

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Congrats, Tyler. I have that strap wrench and its as nice as I have seen. Used it recently on an aggravating oil filter and it worked perfectly.

 

[Miskin]

What is so special about this wrench to bid it for 89 €?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/181037081399?nma=true&si=0AEs1an4ZyVze53Lh%2FDGlMpgoQg%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true#ht_500wt_1414

 

[unknow82]

For my new and not finnished, garage, bought my self a Beta C57P MasterCargo, ...and I like it!

Aluminium shutter, not needed in my garage, but nice.

Usually there are workbench underneath, but due to limited space and I will make workbench with wheels under it, I bought just the table top part. (note that if you buy only tabletop part, you need to make sure your wall is strong enaugh and support it underneat)

Tools haven't found their final place, but I am getting there.

size is 930x1700x160

 

[CanUK]

...bought my self a Beta C57P MasterCargo, ...and I like it!

Wow! I like it too!

 

[willhollin]

That is very nice!

 

[Roverbo]

I have that knife as well, it is pretty nice, but they could have grinded down the top edge, it is not very finish. But you really can not expect that much for the price. It works well for things around the house.

Originally there were many smaller factories in the Mora-region in Sweden, Frosts, K.J. Nilsson to name a few. They were independant, but their products pretty much the same, hence the saying "a mora knife"...
Now there is only one factory left, which has taken the name "Mora" as a brand. They also sell a complete line of kitchen and butchers knives, nothing to complain about the steel quality (The stainless steel is from Sandvik (Sweden), the Carbon steel maybe german?) but the finish and design is more hmm...sufficient... so to say..
I like them as utility knives in the garage or in the garden. If i make a crack or dent, i can buy a new one, in Sweden a utility knife as shown will only cost 25 SEK (2½ Euro)! In my kitchen or in my pocket i prefer the german or japanese finish....

 

[Roverbo]

some tool in action pics here we go..

7UR

Nice tools and nice job, Mr. Tools - so, what are you repairing? Atlas Copco screw-type compressor?
I thought Atlas Copco was "Made in Sweden"?

 

[bart1]

What is so special about this wrench to bid it for 89 €?

http://www.ebay.de/itm/181037081399?nma=true&si=0AEs1an4ZyVze53Lh%2FDGlMpgoQg%3D&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2557&orig_cvip=true#ht_500wt_1414

Collectors like a lot of the old Hazet stuff. Old VW guys are into it pretty heavy.

For my new and not finnished, garage, bought my self a Beta C57P MasterCargo, ...and I like it!
...
Aluminium shutter, not needed in my garage, but nice.

...
size is 930x1700x160

That is great!

 

[CanUK]

The Beta Master cargo is really unique. Can you share pricing with us? As well, anyone know where this type of unit can be purchased this side of the great pond? It's exactly what I have been thinking about, kinda peg-boardish, but more secure, and in orange!

You're in Winterpeg? I think there's a rep in California.

As for pricing - it looks to be about £800+VAT here in the UK (that's without the tools of course), so that would be roughly $1300 plus shipping and GST?

 

[Lukas]

Made in Poland

That's interesting, I wonder who makes it..

 

[unknow82]

beside Beta MasterCargo:

Gedore also makes very similar, litlle bit more costly and MasterCargo has more holes in toolpanels to make it more versile.
Gedore R 1500

 

[Monte]

Cool! I got one a while back in the regular green and black. Now, is this one actually stamped to be 1000V rated as the handle coloring implies?

very nice SAM tools !!!
how much for the 120 tooth ratchet ??

I have that knife as well, it is pretty nice, but they could have grinded down the top edge, it is not very finish. But you really can not expect that much for the price. It works well for things around the house.

That´s right....but like you said.... for that price.... The Bahco one has a better finish though (stainless steel)

some tool in action pics here we go..

A.W.E.S.O.M.E. !

nice tool in action...what the hammer ?

It´s a 300 gram Peddinghaus hammer

you right..everything goods related to tools is awesome for us

new version Stahlwille 8105 (no STAHLWILLE stamp on the box), no information about COO, the price is OK, considering the price, I think it not German.

Gedore 1335L COO? maybe Germany due to the price but it look very good in quality..awesome box

Hazet 190L not sure, most of the user said German, the quality is good too.

Facom BT.13A the price is very good...not sure about quality no COO maybe Taiwan.

Tone 2215 and Toyo GT-470 110% sure made in Japan
both made by Maeda Metal Industries and Toyo Steel Company Ltd. Japan, I think the quality is very good due to my experienced with my old Toyo ST-350.

The most expensive and big is Gedore 1335L but the most weight is Toyo GT-470.. maybe Toyo have to many dividers + 4 roller caster.
STAHLWILLE vs HAZET vs GEDORE vs FACOM vs TONE vs TOYO
maybe someone here can help me

iirc Stahlwille coo is Poland too. I think you´re right about the Gedore boxes made in germany. I think they´re the only ones made in germany...

For my new and not finnished, garage, bought my self a Beta C57P MasterCargo, ...and I like it!

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet very cool !!

Nice tools and nice job, Mr. Tools - so, what are you repairing? Atlas Copco screw-type compressor?
I thought Atlas Copco was "Made in Sweden"?

their screw compressors are made/assembled in Belgium.






the Wera calender surprises of the last few days:

bit


screw clamp


holder for long impact bits


and from today:



misc:
my plasma cutting table

 

[shoturtle]

Bhae,

What size drives does the SAM 120 teeth ratchet come in. And how much do they cost.

 

[mrtools]

Whoa! Hazet ratcheting spanners...I missed that acquisition! Full set?

like Marcone said it's not Hazet 606 but Gedore 7UR... I'm not owned a full set but at least the most common use sizes..

That's Gedore 7UR

right!! thank for the answer

Made in Poland

I believed that to many member here confuse about Hazet 190L COO
thanks Jens it a great information!!!

For my new and not finnished, garage, bought my self a Beta C57P MasterCargo, ...and I like it!

niceeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!! thank to share an awesome pics

Nice tools and nice job, Mr. Tools - so, what are you repairing? Atlas Copco screw-type compressor?
I thought Atlas Copco was "Made in Sweden"?

actually I do servicing and some parts replace for 2000hrs and 4000hrs schedule maintenance.
you right it's an Atlas Copco screw-type compressor but in this case it's a rebrand as Anest Iwata
Atlas Copco GA-37 or Anest Iwata SCD370H

Atlas Copco Air end/compressor element

most of the mechanical component like Air end, Separator unit, Unloaded valve and oil/air cooler was made in Belgium. Spare parts mostly from Germany, but an electrical component like drive motor and control board mostly from Mitsubishi Electric Japan.

A.W.E.S.O.M.E. !

Thanks!!!!!

It´s a 300 gram Peddinghaus hammer

that a great hammer

iirc Stahlwille coo is Poland too. I think you´re right about the Gedore boxes made in germany. I think they´re the only ones made in germany...

I'm agree with you, the only Gedore cantilever box was made in Germany
really cool box with clever design/shape and comes with Gedorit powder coat finish!!!!!!! awesome box, but it's out of my budget
btw: expensive items are usually good in quality, but it not means the low or middle prices item really bad..I'm looking the right box with reasonable price and good in quality.

their screw compressors are made/assembled in Belgium.

right!!

the Wera calender surprises of the last few days:
screw clamp
holder for long impact bits
and from today:

niceeeeee!!!

misc:
my plasma cutting table

 

[Roverbo]

That´s right....but like you said.... for that price.... The Bahco one has a better finish though (stainless steel)

Maybe because they make the stainless version blades themselves, but buys the carbon-type blades from another supplier
From the website (www.frosts.se):
>>Craftline TopQ Allround (similar to the Bacho knife)

The complete TopQ range has knife blades made of the highest quality of Swedish stainless steel available. (Sandvik steel, my note)
The knife is extremely sharp and it stays sharp for a long time. Furthermore, the patterned, double-moulded, high-friction grip is ergonomically designed making it an efficient, comfortable and safe knife to use.<<

About Steel Quality, they write:
>>Steel Quality
Three steel grades are used for knives from Mora of Sweden
Stainless steel (S)
Knife blades are made of hardenable stainless steel- Sandvik 12C27 (hardened to HRC 57-58)(Same hardening as my kitchen Premium F. **** Knives, my note), producing knives with extreme strength, long life as well as having high resistance to moisture without rusting.
Carbon steel (C)
Knife blades of high carbon steel can be hardened to HRC 59-60 giving best possible sharpness to lowest price. Knives made from above mentioned steel grades will after some use achieve a dullish grey finish. However, this will not negatively affect the quality of the blade. On the contrary it will somewhat improve the resistance to corrosion. (imho, that´s true in a very limited way; That´s how Corten steel works, where the rust surface protects from further corrosion; But in this case, the cheap high carbon steel will just continue to rust deeper and deeper... (my note)
Laminated steel (L)
This steel grade is unique to knives from Mora of Sweden. The core of the blade is of high carbon steel surrounded by a softer alloyed steel layer. A high hardness (HRC 61) can be achieved through hardening, resulting in a knife blade with superior toughness, cutting edge retention and thereby maximum sharpness and long life.
The blade can also be bent into a predetermined shape. <<

Most of their utility knives are made in two versions, i.e. carbon- and stainless (sandvik) versions. The laminated steel is solely for their hunting knives (comes in better finish, hardwood handles and leather sheaths).

 

[Holt]

My Modest Collection for home. I use Wera primarily at work

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[jensputzier]

That's interesting, I wonder who makes it..

They won't tell me. But as an exporter I need to have the COO for export declaration. Honestly though it is as good as if it were MiG, but much cheaper. It sells for 55$ and you could never do that MiG.....

 

[unknow82]

Let's see some old Gedore, well... old Gedore ratchet here is for comprison for REALLY old Gedore ratchet, both model "1993" and that is ot year stamp.

There is 1/2" at both ends, one in handle side is for sockets bigger then 36mm

 

[unknow82]

And something made in Sweden, for balance all this German and Italian tools.

My Arboga grinder

I would suspect it is made in 1950's or 1960's as electrics seems so old

Comppany that actually sold this machine is "Engineering comppany Browin Stockholm" love when it was custom to insert retailer plate to machines.

Have to make period style pilar where to put that machine.

 

[PavelK313]

 

[2oolhound]

And something made in Sweden, for balance all this German and Italian tools.

Nice grinder, I like the adjustable guides. Like the Gedore ratchets too. I have similar with my 3/4 dr set.

 

[Monte]

I'm agree with you, the only Gedore cantilever box was made in Germany
really cool box with clever design/shape and comes with Gedorit powder coat finish!!!!!!! awesome box, but it's out of my budget
btw: expensive items are usually good in quality, but it not means the low or middle prices item really bad..I'm looking the right box with reasonable price and good in quality.

yeah the Gedore boxes are nice. The color is beautiful But i think the other boxes are nice too and the tools inside of the boy are also more important because the tools get the job done and not the box So maybe the box doesn´t have to be from Gedore but maybe the tools inside like the Gedore ratcheting wrenches

the Tone box looks good too

KTC boxes....:

Maybe because they make the stainless version blades themselves, but buys the carbon-type blades from another supplier

maybe thats why the price is so low so they save the cost of grinding

And something made in Sweden, for balance all this German and Italian tools.

cool machine !





Wera calendar news from today and yesterday:





Famag wood drill bits www.Famag.de



unique tip

 

[shoturtle]

my new wiha punch, made in germany

 

[Gert]

my plasma cutting table

That's very interesting Monte. What's the thickness of the steel plate you have cut?

Let's see some old Gedore, well... old Gedore ratchet here is for comprison for REALLY old Gedore ratchet, both model "1993" and that is ot year stamp.

There is 1/2" at both ends, one in handle side is for sockets bigger then 36mm

Really nice. I have never seen one of those very old ratchets. Are they still working? Thanks for sharing with us.

 

[Monte]

That's very interesting Monte. What's the thickness of the steel plate you have cut?

it´s 4mm "normal" steel (construction steel, S235)
so far the cheapo plasma cutter works fine, however sometimes it don´t ignite properly.

 

[lok]

STAHLWILLE vs HAZET vs GEDORE vs FACOM vs TONE vs TOYO
maybe someone here can help me

The gedore is the best that I have seen so far. But the price as you mention is prohibitive.
One Elora that I had wasn't any special. Wasn't made in Germany.
The Hazet looks really very nice but the price here in Greece wasn't that good.
The Facom looks good and the price is reasonable but is exactly the same with others cheaper than that.
The Pastorino (yea right, the brand was in a sticker) that I bought hasn't something special but it can do the job at half the price of Facom. I've overloaded it for a year now and hold up well. The quality seems to be the same with the other made in (Taiwan?). Downside, the sidewall needs attention to transportation (like all long ones Ι suppose). For a price close to 35 euro, it is really good.

Here is some older pics.
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The Unior toolboxes are nice too. And the price is reasonable. I don't know how difficult is to find them though. The only issue was that it was a little tight to open and close probably because it was new. I try it at the store. It looks a little better to me than the others (excluded the gedore) but I can't be sure.

So if you can't buy the one that you like the most get the better that can do the job, for the lowest price (and in the color that you like ).

How much you can find the tone or toyo?






A tool from work.

The beast!!!

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[Gert]

it´s 4mm "normal" steel (construction steel, S235)
so far the cheapo plasma cutter works fine, however sometimes it don´t ignite properly.

Thanks! Looks like it made some hard work very easy (dispite some igniting issues). With a grinder or hacksaw you could not make such nice curves. Like it!

 

[decaf]

What a surprise i got in the mail today:

How cool isn´t that.....? The price for the Umbrella is 39 Euro or 51 USD.

Wera forever!