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N.I.

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Your Elora wrenches are lovely. From the pics the chrome reminds me the Hazet.

Overall the Elora wrenches are very similar to the hazet. The chrome is similar, they are around the same length and the open end of the Eloras is near identical in shape to the open end of the Hazets. The one downside of the Eloras is that the ring end would be a bit more bulky.

Your opinion about NWS vs Knipex? I have the NWS but i would like to hear from you who have both of them!:)

The Fantastico are my first pair of NWS pliers. I was a bit sceptical at first and was actually looking for the Knipex Twinforce, however the fantastico were £23, and the cheapest I could find a pair of the Twinforce was for over £40.

Having said that, I certainly have no regrets about the Fantastico, they are class! I can't stop cutting random **** just for the fun of it.
Comparing the Knipex Cobalt and Fantastico would not be a fair comparison, the Cobalt have a higher cutting capacity, have better leverage and are a more rugged design, but for most normal things I would definately pick up the fantastico first.
 
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got my gedore bottle opener today, it is sad how small it is compare to my craftsman and wera.

But it is the prefect size for keeping on a key chain or pocket
 

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sorry for the bad picture - the settings were a bit wrong on the cell phone.


brake line flaring tool - way better compared with the chinese **** or the BETA tool that I used in the past.

some magazines

safety plates for my vice

Engineer Neiji-Saurus pliers

magnetic bowl

huuuuge pan for collecting coolant and stuff

Stahlwille sockets

Wera Bit Check Diamond

Collection of Gedore / Habero hammers
 

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got my gedore bottle opener today, it is sad how small it is compare to my craftsman and wera.

But it is the prefect size for keeping on a key chain or pocket

Nice collection! Which one is best?

Got some new Gedore stuff yesterday.

Beautiful Gedore stuff! :thumbup:

sorry for the bad picture - the settings were a bit wrong on the cell phone.

Hazet magnetic bowl? Looks like one, but black?

Christmas gift for my brother:

Looks familiar:
http://www.tbs-aachen.de/PROXXON/St...-Set_TX_8-60_E_4-18_23-teilig_i2527_42485.htm

Should make a good gift!

PB Swiss goodies: T3-T40, PH00-PH3, PZ1-PZ3, Slotted 2-10mm

The hex drivers are next on my list! :willy_nil

That's some goodies! :bowdown:

I was a bit sad that I didn't get a calendar. But then I found this for SEK 499:- and got happier! :) All the stuff I wanted from the calendar and more!
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N.I.

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What do you think of the Wera Bit ratchet?

I received the Felo version today (thanks to Mr Tradesmans Choice)

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I really like it, although it's a lot smaller than I could ever have expected.

The flat head is perfect to lean your thumb on for extra pressure and the angle allows your fingers to clear the workpiece when holding it.

The box is very neat as well. Cut out foam to hold all the sockets and bits, and it also has a rubber seal the whole way round to keep the damp out.
 

TjoFrasse

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What do you think of the Wera Bit ratchet?

I received the Felo version today (thanks to Mr Tradesmans Choice)

I really like it, although it's a lot smaller than I could ever have expected.

The flat head is perfect to lean your thumb on for extra pressure and the angle allows your fingers to clear the workpiece when holding it.

The box is very neat as well. Cut out foam to hold all the sockets and bits, and it also has a rubber seal the whole way round to keep the damp out.

The only other bit ratchet I can compare with is the Bahco I have, the 2058-s26.

The Wera is a bit heavier, with a fatter handle part. It feels better to hold than the Bahcos wrench-like design. Being a bit heavier can be a disadvantage in a cramped/hard to reach situation though. I also think that the angled head of the Bahco is better in most situations. Ratcheting wise they are similar, perhaps a little bit better mechanism in the Wera. The Wera is a nice package though, with a large collection of high quality bits, but it's also expensive.

That Felo really looks good, sturdy handle and angled head. The closed top might be a small issue though. Being able to press the bits out from behind is much simpler than dragging them out when having greasy hands. Still, I would think the ultimate is that ratchet with the Weras packaging and accessories. :)
 
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N.I.

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Is the felo made in Germany?

I don't know. The only thing stamped Germany is the bit extension. I wouldn't be surprised if the sockets are subcontracted out to Taiwan as that is not really Felo's forte. I will let a resident German confirm this though.

But don't let COO put you off. Everything in the box is top notch. My photo's certainly don't do the bit ratchet justice.


The only other bit ratchet I can compare with is the Bahco I have, the 2058-s26.

The Wera is a bit heavier, with a fatter handle part. It feels better to hold than the Bahcos wrench-like design. Being a bit heavier can be a disadvantage in a cramped/hard to reach situation though. I also think that the angled head of the Bahco is better in most situations. Ratcheting wise they are similar, perhaps a little bit better mechanism in the Wera. The Wera is a nice package though, with a large collection of high quality bits, but it's also expensive.

That Felo really looks good, sturdy handle and angled head. The closed top might be a small issue though. Being able to press the bits out from behind is much simpler than dragging them out when having greasy hands. Still, I would think the ultimate is that ratchet with the Weras packaging and accessories. :)

I am coming down with 1/4" bits, so the wera box wouldn't really appeal to me. Plus I would always lift the impact driver first, the felo will not get a whole lot of work.
 

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I was not totally happy with the plastic pad work surface of my wisent box. So today with all the sale, went an got a nice piece of solid wood and made a new work surface for my wisent box. After cutting it and sanding it down, it came out really nice. Now to spend the next 2 weeks oiling it everyday to get it to be nicely water resistance.

Thank goodness for my bosch powertools. The oscillating tool was a god spent. Made the sanding and rounding the corners a breeze.
 

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Can't wait to see it! ;)
Actually it's a same box but, with the difference name stamp on it.

That is outstanding! I really like it -casters are a clever idea, and dividers like Lista :thumbup:
You right the casters is a good idea for a large and heavy box like this. The dividers make it look like very serious tool box :thumbup:

WOW Awesome tool box !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eyecrazy: :eyecrazy: :eyecrazy: :drool: :drool: :drool:
:)

why do you want to send it back ?????
She's send me the wrong item :mad: and the good is she's bear all the return cost + I got a chance to snap a couple of pics for all of you before arrange to return the box back to Singapore. :bounce:

Send it to me !!!!! :D :D :D
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OK if you pay all the bills, box + fright charges to Germany:D :bounce: I don't think Japan made box suitable for you,:D and you don't need the cantilever box, you already own the red Metec and a big reseda green cabinet.

i found a tool box for you on ebay.com.my !!! And the price is good too !!
nice ! but it's too late :lol_hitti: :(

it seems the colour comes from the diamond coating. The complete bit is coated with diamond particles. The black sleeve is a "shrink tubing" (or just a plastic sleeve)
Oo.. I see :thumbup:

sure !! :pimpflash :D what else ? :evil:
ok Albrecht maybe :)
:thumbup:

yeah and i can borrow it so i don´t need to buy my own :D
that a good idea :D

@Miskin
:thumbup: :beer:
Awesome machine :bowdown: Okuma CNC Multus B300W turn mill 7 axis :thumbup:
All the Japan wrenches comes from this machine maintenance tool kit?

Hello I'm from Bulgaria. Sorry for spelling. I'll show you some tools to work with. Most of them I bought second hand
Hi, welcome to the board :beer:

Got some new Gedore stuff yesterday.
niceeeeee:drool:


sorry for the bad picture - the settings were a bit wrong on the cell phone.
brake line flaring tool - way better compared with the chinese **** or the BETA tool that I used in the past.
some magazines
safety plates for my vice
Engineer Neiji-Saurus pliers
magnetic bowl
huuuuge pan for collecting coolant and stuff
Stahlwille sockets
Wera Bit Check Diamond
Collection of Gedore / Habero hammers
Awesome tools!!!! Congratulation!!!! I'm very interested with Habero ball pein hammer :bowdown: :bowdown:
where you got it? Any more left at the store/tools shop? I really need at least one :( I know they stop production for this Habero ball pein series, seriously please help if you know where to bought it.

Wera calendar:
I wait for 25 December....:bounce:

Christmas gift for my brother:
:thumbup:

PB Swiss goodies: T3-T40, PH00-PH3, PZ1-PZ3, Slotted 2-10mm
The hex drivers are next on my list! :willy_nil
WOWWWWWWWWW.....A.W.E.S.O.M.E set :bowdown: :bowdown: :drool::drool:

That's some goodies! :bowdown:
I was a bit sad that I didn't get a calendar. But then I found this for SEK 499:- and got happier! :) All the stuff I wanted from the calendar and more!
beautiful set with a good quality bits, that a good set to carry on...how about the ratchet mechanised, it smooth like your Bacho?

I was not totally happy with the plastic pad work surface of my wisent box. So today with all the sale, went an got a nice piece of solid wood and made a new work surface for my wisent box. After cutting it and sanding it down, it came out really nice. Now to spend the next 2 weeks oiling it everyday to get it to be nicely water resistance.

Thank goodness for my bosch powertools. The oscillating tool was a god spent. Made the sanding and rounding the corners a breeze.
nice jobs, Congratulation!!!!
 

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What´s even worse, is that most of the blue "pro-tools" are made in PRC.
From Bosch China website: (www.bosch.com.cn)
"Bosch Power Tools (China) Co., Ltd.
Bosch Power Tools is the leading supplier of portable electric power tools and accessories, committed to high standards in quality, technical innovation and after-sales service. It has three brands, Bosch, Skil, and Dremel, and 5 product segments: portable power tools, benchtop, measuring tools, lawn and garden and accessories.

Bosch Power Tools established its joint-venture in Hangzhou in 1995 and became a wholly foreign-invested enterprise of Bosch in 2003. Bosch Power Tools (China) Co., Ltd. now occupies 140,000 square meters and includes Bosch, Skil and Accessories manufacturing, Bosch Power Tools China Sales & Marketing Center, an Asia Pacific R&D Center, an Asia Pacific Logistic Center, an Asia Pacific Product Training Center, and Global Purchasing and Quality Offices. Now the company has become the most important power tools location within Bosch worldwide."

I have worked with the blue tools, and there is nothing to complain about. Still, i would have prefered "Made in Germany"...:headscrat


I was surprise with all my bosch tools, majority were made in malaysia not china. Only the circular saw and saw saw is chinese. But they allot work great, I have no complaints with the PRC stuff.
 

Van Steele

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brake line flaring tool

which brand ?

These are actually all made by Bond Engineering in Leicestershire, England and rebranded by a variety of companies like Sykes-Pickavant, Sealey, Draper, Laser, etc..
They have a number of different models all pretty much built on the same principle.
Here's an older model I have, branded as Ratcliffe.

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Oh, and yes, you can toss those Beta and similar ones in the scrap once you've used one of these.
 
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shoturtle

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radostin,

Your photos are very small, you may want to attach photos 1024x1024 so members can see your tools more clearly.

Is that rubber tape on your pliers to make them more suitable for electrical work?
 

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Hey Monte,I work for Trumpf,ever hear of them?

We use those big Leinen vises at work,they are awesome!Probably the most solid vise ever made.Takes a bit to get used to the outer jaw not moving though.
 

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I will do a quality and detailed pictures when I can. These need to cut so I can get them second hand pliers are for comfort and insulation are wrapped with insulating tape
 

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My wife already thinks I'm insane, so fortunately for me, she doesn't read GJ to see what arrived this afternoon (and the reason I was in the freezing cold garage for an hour). I'm really impressed with the quality of the Felos...

Now I just have to wait for my MWS pliers to arrive. :D
 

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it seems it falls off the same production line..... :) The WGB set was cheaper though, only 29.-€ the offline Proxxon store here wanted 43,50 :)


I was a bit sad that I didn't get a calendar. But then I found this for SEK 499:- and got happier! :) All the stuff I wanted from the calendar and more!

That´s a very nice complete and intelligent 1/4" set ! :pimpflash:drool::thumbup:

I will let a resident German confirm this though.

i don´t know but i guess Taiwan too. Maybe the bits are from Felo but the rest don´t look german. But the taiwanese make pretty nice miniature ratchets + other stuff.

She's send me the wrong item :mad: and the good is she's bear all the return cost + I got a chance to snap a couple of pics for all of you before arrange to return the box back to Singapore. :bounce:
hopefully she sends another wrong box so we can see more pictures :evil:
OK if you pay all the bills, box + fright charges to Germany:D :bounce: I don't think Japan made box suitable for you,:D and you don't need the cantilever box, you already own the red Metec and a big reseda green cabinet.
:) ......and i´m already in love with the Gedore box :p
nice ! but it's too late :lol_hitti: :(
:D
I wait for 25 December....:bounce:
:lol: that can take a long time:lol:
"Tool in action" :)
:pimpflash :pimpflash :pimpflash

Are those WGB made in Germany? That is the new style boxing. And allot of the standard sockets in the sets are stamped germany
no coo on box. For the 29.- € i guess Taiwan..... The open box sockets don´t carry the coo anymore since they chaged to the pink color.

These are actually all made by Bond Engineering in Leicestershire, England
thanks, never heard of them !
i only have experience with the Hazet and Stahlwille flaring tools so far, but after a while the tube starts to slip out of the holder....

Hey Monte,I work for Trumpf,ever hear of them?

We use those big Leinen vises at work,they are awesome!Probably the most solid vise ever made.Takes a bit to get used to the outer jaw not moving though.
yeah Trumpf the laser cutting specialists !
you also make some nice power tools !
Do you have some pics of the Leinen vises ?

My wife already thinks I'm insane, so fortunately for me, she doesn't read GJ to see what arrived this afternoon (and the reason I was in the freezing cold garage for an hour). I'm really impressed with the quality of the Felos...

Now I just have to wait for my MWS pliers to arrive. :D

nice Felo Frico collection !! :drool:






22 december:



"Format" hole saw arbor



Starrett hole saw

 

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Yup.I work for Trumpf Photonics ,a division in NJ.
I machine the copper optics for the lasers.
Trumpf is the worlds largest machine tool manufacturer.

I dont have any pics at home, but will see what I can do next week when I go back.
 

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which brand ?

It was rebranded as a tool of the dealer I bought it of so I dont really know but the system it creates the flair is way better in my opinion. With the chinese stuff its pretty easy to create a flair that althought it seals right looks a bit strange and I have a bad feeling with it.

These are actually all made by Bond Engineering in Leicestershire, England

Here we have it James bond creates tools in his spare time. Thx Van Steele - did not know who is the original creator of those tools so many companys sell them under their name.

Hazet magnetic bowl? Looks like one, but black?

I also own the hazet blue version and I think its produced in the same factory. The only difference I noticed is that its black and 3 euros cheaper :D. I have to put them side by side today.
 

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These are actually all made by Bond Engineering in Leicestershire, England

thanks, never heard of them !
i only have experience with the Hazet and Stahlwille flaring tools so far, but after a while the tube starts to slip out of the holder....

These do work so much easier and hassle-free, just make your flares slowly but steadfastly and use a tiny bit of glycol grease - or brake fluid - on the tip of the punch.

These are actually all made by Bond Engineering in Leicestershire, England

Here we have it James bond creates tools in his spare time. Thx Van Steele - did not know who is the original creator of those tools so many companys sell them under their name.

Watch where you're pointing the revolving turret when pressing the hidden button, them rockets can do quite a bit of damage :D
 

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Today I bought myself a top chest. I could not afford to buy the main chest, that have too wait too next month. But it´s a start.....

Very cheep one but i think the quality is great for the money. 170EUR.


In great Schlumpf/Smurf blue.
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