Tools from the old world

[Ratchet.]

Happy new year everyone


i haven't posted in this threadfor ages as i haven't really bought many tools (was unemployed for a while ) anyway got this from my other half for

sorry for the slightly fuzzy pictures

Seems a really nice made drill, not had a chance to use it yet though, anyone on here got or used one (or any other AEG powertool)?

 

[Monte]

I havn´t measured it says 17mm on it but I am not quite sure if thats actually correct - possible that the labeling is wrong

i would return them if they are wrong !!!

So we have E-top, lux, ....? that also sell the nws pliers under their label. do you know any more?

In front of me I have the Engelbert-Strauss catalog and they also have nws rebranded stuff in there (+ so much other nice stuff)

E-Top
Lux
Engelbert Strauss
Klauke
Kraftwerk
SW-Stahl "Premium"
Intercable
Houben
Felo (VDE)
Phoenix Contact
Silberspeer
Matador

+ possible more....

just a crappy picutre of my new swivel stahlwille sockets

why do you sell them ?

Hallo Monte !

Weißt du noch wo du deinen Wagenheber DK20 herhast ? Und wie viel der gekostet hat ? Gibt es da unterschiedliche Versionen ?
Ein Bekannter bietet mir so einen für 219€ an. Allerdings weiß er die Hubhöhe nicht. Nur das er von ihn wohl von Europart beziehen würde.

Grüße aus dem trüben Harz
'Nordmende

@ Everyone: I'm just asking something about Montes car-jack

sorry i only understand english

Hab meinen bei einer Auktion gewonnen müßte knapp über 200.- gewesen sein (Modell DK20HLQ)
Gibt verschiedene versionen...http://www.ac-hydraulic.dk/de/produkte/hydraulische-rangierheber/ ...kommt drauf an welchen Du für 219.- bekommst....
ein DK 20 gibs hier z.b. für netto 210.-
http://www.starequipment-shop.de/Hydraulischer-Rangierheber.htm?websale8=se-shop&pi=15584
Bei Matthies Autoteile www.matthies.de kostet ein DK20Q z.b. 246.- netto ein DK20HLQ z.b. 440.- netto. Geben tuts die auch bei TBS-Aachen z.b.

 

[Outline]

E-Top
Lux
Engelbert Strauss
Klauke
Kraftwerk
SW-Stahl "Premium"
Intercable
Houben
Felo (VDE)
Phoenix Contact
Silberspeer
Matador

+ possible more....

In The Netherlands Sonic Equipment (http://www.sonic-equipment.com/) has them.

Sonic (private label) is only rebranded stuff from Force/Newtools/and so on.
Big in The Netherlands but basically very overpriced and overhyped. That began when they started supplying some big VAG-dealers. The year after that happened they had raised their prices by 30%...

 

[BMW_Garage]

Happy new year to everyone! What a great thread, can't stop reading it..I'll make sure to contribute to it soon.

 

[lok]

Happy new year to all.

 

[ToniPieleanu]

Some of my other tools I use around the house/car, mostly from my local Hornbach DIY store:

Alpen borers
Olfa cutter
WIha Voltage tester
WGB Adjustable wrenches
WGB Feeler gauges

Multisystem 1/4" socket set (also sold as Topas)

Wiha Pliers 160mm
Wiha Insulated slot screwdriver
Wiha PH2 screwdriver
Wiha Ball-end long hex

Lux Fine screwdrivers set, cheap chinese replica of Wiha's System4 but have nothing in common
Stabila Ruller

EDIT

Forgot about these, small part of my chemicals, might be of some interest to you guys

 

[d-rive]

Toni, i cant believe you can buy Wiha and LiquiMoly at Hornbach? )

 

[Nordmende]

@ Ratched

Is the AEG Driller made in germany ? The "old" AEG company is since 1996 no longer in existence.
The swedish electrolux bought the brand name and licences it to other companys.
They then produce cheap asian stuff under the traditional brand name "AEG" ;(
Its the similar to the RCA in the US.

@ Monte

Thanks I just need a car-jack for my 77 Lincoln
Theres a red one for 225€ at ebay. Looks decent.

 

[ToniPieleanu]

Toni, i cant believe you can buy Wiha and LiquiMoly at Hornbach? )

Wiha, yes, they have a pretty good range.
On the other hand, Liqui Moly products are bought from other sources It's been kind of a struggle to get them all.

Regarding the Wiha's, I think they are older stocks. For example, I can't the yellow/black pliers on their website (only red/black) and some screwdrivers are marked W. Germany These must be at least 20 years old... Will get some next time I'm there

Herr Monte, do you think you can shed some light on the yellow/black Wiha pliers?

 

[Roverbo]

@ Ratched

Is the AEG Driller made in germany ? The "old" AEG company is since 1996 no longer in existence.
The swedish electrolux bought the brand name and licences it to other companys.
They then produce cheap asian stuff under the traditional brand name "AEG" ;(
Its the similar to the RCA in the US.

@ Monte

Thanks I just need a car-jack for my 77 Lincoln
Theres a red one for 225€ at ebay. Looks decent.

Hi Ratchet and Normende, and happy new year to you and other members of this great forum.
I have used many different power tools from AEG, blue ones from the days where it was a part of german AEG (Daimler-Benz was the main share holder, as i remember), over the few years of Atlas-Copco ownership (together with Bacho and Sandvik), and to the present where they are a brand of TTI group (together with Milwaukee and Ryobi, HQ in Hong Kong).
I´ve always liked the idea, that AEG only supplied ONE line of tools - not separate lines for home and pro (like Bosch "blue" and "green"). They even issued a book in danish in the 80-tees "Lidt om Elektroværktøj" (A short story of electric tools) where they compared different brands and made tests of lifespan and breakdown by overloading the tools! I guess this was a way of "comparitive marketing", that is in fact against good "code of conduct", but since it was a book and not a free marketingfolder, they got away with it..
At present, I own a blue german "Ergo" fixtech corded drill (this was an idea of making more ergonomical tools developed together with a swedish university - only Bacho (which now is a brand of SNA) has kept the style alive)), a more ordinary AEG corded SBE-drill (made in Germany, with Röhm chuck), and from the new orange style: A 5" angle grinder and a corded jig saw. Cant find the COO of these orange devices, but nothing to complain about . AEG is still present in Winnenden, Germany, and from the TTI annual financial report, it seems that appx. 600 people are employed there. Maybe the corded tools still comes from Germany or Czech republic (where TTI owns a plant), and the batterytools are from "overseas"?
But then again, nothing to complain about, AEG is still a nice brand IMHO.

 

[Miskin]

Happy new year to all of you! Santa came to me also....
Not from old world, but Santa Claus went to USA before come to Greece
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Santa Claus loves Joker!
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Lux tools. Maybe the only Lux tool in Greece
View media item 26758...and a 16" plier from UK (maybe "born" in China)
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[Monte]

In The Netherlands Sonic Equipment (http://www.sonic-equipment.com/) has them.

Sonic (private label) is only rebranded stuff from Force/Newtools/and so on.
Big in The Netherlands but basically very overpriced and overhyped. That began when they started supplying some big VAG-dealers. The year after that happened they had raised their prices by 30%...

thanks for the added link !

VAG allows Sonic ?? over here i mostly see Hazet listed in the official VAG tool lists for workshop equipment....



The updated list

E-Top
Lux
Engelbert Strauss
Klauke
Kraftwerk
SW-Stahl "Premium"
Intercable
Houben
Felo (VDE)
Phoenix Contact
Silberspeer
Matador
Sonic

Is the AEG Driller made in germany ? The "old" AEG company is since 1996 no longer in existence.
The swedish electrolux bought the brand name and licences it to other companys.
They then produce cheap asian stuff under the traditional brand name "AEG" ;(
Its the similar to the RCA in the US.

The orange AEG tools are produced in China and Czech Republic

@ Monte

Thanks I just need a car-jack for my 77 Lincoln
Theres a red one for 225€ at ebay. Looks decent.

nice continental ! I once owned a 1977 Mark V....awesome car.....

there are many red jacks on ebay... ...like
http://www.ebay.de/itm/Rangierwagen...?pt=Hebe_Hydrauliktechnik&hash=item3ccc6c6fa6

this is a good brand too:
http://wulf-kfz.de/Wagenheber-Rangierwagenheber-Hochheber/

or maybe used?....
http://www.quoka.de/zubehoer-tuning...uestung/c9716a96220066/compac-wagenheber.html

Herr Monte, do you think you can shed some light on the yellow/black Wiha pliers?

special edition for Hornbach. The screwdrivers sold at german Hornbach are the same:

http://www.hornbach.de/shop/Handwerkzeug/Schraubendreher/S1483/artikelliste.html

Maybe the corded tools still comes from Germany or Czech republic (where TTI owns a plant), and the batterytools are from "overseas"?
But then again, nothing to complain about, AEG is still a nice brand IMHO.

The last things made in germany were some mechanical parts for the former "Kango" hammers from Milwaukee. Production, assembly etc. is now in china and czech republic.

Happy new year to all of you! Santa came to me also....

nice !! Love those 14 karat keys !!








if someone is looking for a new hobby

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[ToniPieleanu]

special edition for Hornbach. The screwdrivers sold at german Hornbach are the same:

http://www.hornbach.de/shop/Handwerkzeug/Schraubendreher/S1483/artikelliste.html

Thank you, much appreciated!

 

[mr_jack]

if someone is looking for a new hobby

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Nice test!
This guy either has a lot of tools or he works at a power tools disposal facility.

 

[mr_jack]

nice !! Love those 14 karat keys !!

Yeah, see where all the money from the EU Bank went?!

 

[Miskin]

Yeah, see where all the money from the EU Bank went?!

Life is a circle

 

[Ratchet.]

Hi Ratchet and Normende, and happy new year to you and other members of this great forum.
I have used many different power tools from AEG, blue ones from the days where it was a part of german AEG (Daimler-Benz was the main share holder, as i remember), over the few years of Atlas-Copco ownership (together with Bacho and Sandvik), and to the present where they are a brand of TTI group (together with Milwaukee and Ryobi, HQ in Hong Kong).
I´ve always liked the idea, that AEG only supplied ONE line of tools - not separate lines for home and pro (like Bosch "blue" and "green"). They even issued a book in danish in the 80-tees "Lidt om Elektroværktøj" (A short story of electric tools) where they compared different brands and made tests of lifespan and breakdown by overloading the tools! I guess this was a way of "comparitive marketing", that is in fact against good "code of conduct", but since it was a book and not a free marketingfolder, they got away with it..
At present, I own a blue german "Ergo" fixtech corded drill (this was an idea of making more ergonomical tools developed together with a swedish university - only Bacho (which now is a brand of SNA) has kept the style alive)), a more ordinary AEG corded SBE-drill (made in Germany, with Röhm chuck), and from the new orange style: A 5" angle grinder and a corded jig saw. Cant find the COO of these orange devices, but nothing to complain about . AEG is still present in Winnenden, Germany, and from the TTI annual financial report, it seems that appx. 600 people are employed there. Maybe the corded tools still comes from Germany or Czech republic (where TTI owns a plant), and the batterytools are from "overseas"?
But then again, nothing to complain about, AEG is still a nice brand IMHO.

Honestly I'm not 100% sure where they are made, it does say "AEG Germany" on them though (no "made in" though so not conclusive ...)

Interestingly enough my partner was talking to one of the buyers in the store he got the drill from, as they almost bought me a Hitachi drill which was slightly cheaper, then found out it was made in china, (Hitachi mark the Coo on their tools, unlike a lot of manufacturers they are marked on the package), apparently Hitachi have moved manufacture of the said drill back to japan, as there was a bit of a backlash, (not sure if that is true or not though, but at any rate they do make some other powertools in japan but they are the more expensive ones at £230 or so)

According to the guy, the AEG tools are made in Europe, though he wasn't any more specific than that though

Quite interesting that it seems even UK consumers are looking at country of origin these days.

 

[shoturtle]

One of my X-Mas presents form my wifey.

Proxxon off set box head wrenches. They are very comfortable to the hand.

 

[shoturtle]

Definitely, that's why I got myself a 40mm 1/4'' extension for next time.

This is my 1000S, she jumps a lot harder off the line then my 650s

 

[Monte]

@ Monte

Thanks I just need a car-jack for my 77 Lincoln
Theres a red one for 225€ at ebay. Looks decent.

btw. check out your local car jack dealer or car workshop related fair they always have a good deal or "Aktions Flyer" with good offers....

Yeah, see where all the money from the EU Bank went?!

at least they invested in something useful instead of rescuing another bank











sturdy Gedore metal case:



with content

 

[mercucho]

Great thread!!!

My first contribution...

 

[mr_jack]

sturdy Gedore metal case:

with content

Nice!

 

[Miskin]

sturdy Gedore metal case:

with content

I believe that now you own two No 7UR 13. One in this metal case and the other with the 13s compo wrench pile. Do you feel generous?

Great thread!!!

My first contribution...

Welcome! This is not just a contribution. This is

 

[mercucho]

More. Gedore set in inches for my Harley.

 

[Outline]

thanks for the added link !

VAG allows Sonic ?? over here i mostly see Hazet listed in the official VAG tool lists for workshop equipment....

The updated list

E-Top
Lux
Engelbert Strauss
Klauke
Kraftwerk
SW-Stahl "Premium"
Intercable
Houben
Felo (VDE)
Phoenix Contact
Silberspeer
Matador
Sonic

The thing is that in The Netherlands the shop owner decides what brand of tools he buys.

So the official list may say Hazet, what you will actually see in the workshops can be every brand that you can buy in NL.

I'm guessing that speciallity/brand specific will still be Hazet though...

More. Gedore set in inches for my Harley.

I have the same box but t's filled totally different!

Mine has a 1/2" Gedore 1993-Z, King Tony 12pt sockets (10,12,13,16,17,18,19,21,22,24), swivel joint AND 5" & 10" extension bar. And it fits all inside!!

 

[tocosta]

Hi.
It's my first post around here, I will also post in the apresentation sub forum. But well since its a tool forum there is no better way than showing some tools.
BTW I'm Antonio from Portugal.
Here are a few of my tools from the old world. Organised the pictures today to post, most of them nowadays already show some wear but the quality remains, all the pictures are from they were new. I will post updated pictures tomorrow.

 

[tocosta]

A few more:

 

[TjoFrasse]

One of my X-Mas presents form my wifey.

Proxxon off set box head wrenches. They are very comfortable to the hand.

I'm satisfied with the Proxxon hand tools I have, the only thing I can complain about is that the sizes are not stamped. The etch print really lowers the quality impression. Still a good set though!

sturdy Gedore metal case:

with content

Great thread!!!

My first contribution...

That is a very nice set. Bought second hand?

Santa Claus loves Joker!
...and a 16" plier from UK (maybe "born" in China)

Can we get a review of the Jokers? Are they worth the extra price over normal ratcheting wrenches?

What brand is that plier?

 

[Miskin]

Can we get a review of the Jokers? Are they worth the extra price over normal ratcheting wrenches?

What brand is that plier?

I don't own any ratcheting wrenches so i can't compair each other. I wil give a review a.s.a.p.
The plier's brand is Neilsen
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Pliers-16-Long-Nose-20-Degree-Offset-Long-Reach-Plier-Automotive-Garage-1453-/390499295747?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&nma=true&si=mBb7e03mqUp8ZI3a7ysgJz0dNTM%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

 

[mercucho]

That is a very nice set. Bought second hand?

Not, purchased new.

 

[Monte]

Great thread!!!

My first contribution...

very nice contribution !!!

I believe that now you own two No 7UR 13. One in this metal case and the other with the 13s compo wrench pile. Do you feel generous?

sorry i need both wrenches one for the collection the other for work

The thing is that in The Netherlands the shop owner decides what brand of tools he buys.

So the official list may say Hazet, what you will actually see in the workshops can be every brand that you can buy in NL.

I'm guessing that speciallity/brand specific will still be Hazet though...

...stahlwille or Gedore would be fine too....






first use of my Proxxon dremel....

engraved the socket adaptors with a size marking since the paint don´t hold up...



since i had the tool in my hand i modified the tool tray so the angled ratcheting wrenches fit in the straight ratcheting wrench tray....

 

[wizard1]

My USAG long combi wrench!

 

[CanUK]

Hi.
It's my first post around here, I will also post in the apresentation sub forum. But well since its a tool forum there is no better way than showing some tools.
BTW I'm Antonio from Portugal.
Here are a few of my tools from the old world. Organised the pictures today to post, most of them nowadays already show some wear but the quality remains, all the pictures are from they were new. I will post updated pictures tomorrow.
]/QUOTE]


Great pics Antonio, but on my screen at least, they're massive and I have to scroll side to side and up and down just to see them. Any chance you could make them a bit smaller?

 

[Phobo]

Great thread!!!

My first contribution...

http://img6.uploadhouse.com/fileuploads/17120/171207659de629b03a384d9ba9c8f2ad9a6f5674.jpg

wow awesome kit - includes everything you might need.
Went to check the price for it and yes I think I pass this and get the proxxon set

 

[lok]

you right they still expensive...!!!
Don't know the actual price for the TONE, the size is small than TOYO I mean 6cm shorter, they just qoute the item price + shipping = 130 euro and for the TOYO the price is 71,31 euro and the shipping is 37,50 euro. For your information the TOYO also rebranded as TRUSCO, they have the same shape and color, I'm not sure if they comes from the same factory.

Thanks for the info.

Sorry...you have to wait longer to see my new box, the box I received not the actual item I order, but I think this is a good pics to introduce my real box, (see below) same model (GT-470) but difference name, maybe the box comes from the same manufacturer but with difference name TRUSCO
now I’m waiting my real box and arrange to send back the TRUSCO.

This is very nice box. I would tell you to send it to me but monte beat me.

got my gedore bottle opener today, it is sad how small it is compare to my craftsman and wera.

But it is the prefect size for keeping on a key chain or pocket

If you want one for your key chain you should hurry.

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Merry Christmas to me

Proxxon IBS/E grinder:

Nice gift. I want one.

my new favourite bit ratchet:

Not the wurth with the nice handle?

a pic of the updated bottle opener collection:

Yea you need one more.

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...and a updated pic of the 13mm combination wrench collection thanks to secret santa:

They are all pretty much the same except one.

the bit ratchet collection

I don't know which one is the best so I'll buy the gedore.

Carolus flexible combination ratchet wrenches, COO Taiwan. Sizes 8-19.

What would be a good set to complement these two types? Double offset box end wrenches, double open end wrenches, or something else?

Nice set.

The deep offset wrenches some times are irreplaceable.

Made in Taiwan...
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You need a gedore.

although I own 7 stahlwille ratchets I have to say Gedore

I don't own any stahlwille ratchet but I also say Gedore.

..
I use the medical gear for electronics work.

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E-Top
Lux
Engelbert Strauss
Klauke
Kraftwerk
SW-Stahl "Premium"
Intercable
Houben
Felo (VDE)
Phoenix Contact
Silberspeer
Matador

+ possible more....

Also..

and

The other wurth pliers are from knipex right?

Santa Claus loves Joker!
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Now you need the missing numbers from gedore.

Lux tools. Maybe the only Lux tool in Greece
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Maybe because it is not lux.

if someone is looking for a new hobby

Some people have very strange hobby.

...




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sturdy Gedore metal case:

with content

Great thread!!!
My first contribution...

Very nice.





I went to wurth shop for these..

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and..

did I told you that the screwdrivers are right next to chemical?

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The smaller (2.5) is not new.

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[marcone]

Have you ever used taps and dies from a company named CZ Tool?
Seems to be conveniently priced on German ebay and I am in the market for an M18x1.5 HSS tap/die set.

 

[shoturtle]

lok,

where did you find the little bottle opener. I have not seen that one.

 

[bart1]

...
Yea you need one more.

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Maybe even more:

 

[lok]

lok,

where did you find the little bottle opener. I have not seen that one.

I think it is a Christmas gift from gedore. My dealer gave it to me with a calender and a fabric bag.

This one.
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btw

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Maybe even more:

Nice one!

 

[CanUK]

..., so The Lioness (my wife) and I took a little walk into Monaco to the FAMI for a quote for the special tools.

I think I just wet my pants! Tell me more about this store please. Do they have a website? Locations outside of Monaco?

I'm certain I would exceed my luggage allowance (and credit card limit) if I were to visit there.