take some pics
I might register, but it's a little bit far - If I go and it ***** I will be very annoyed at wasting the time and petrol.
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I might register, but it's a little bit far - If I go and it ***** I will be very annoyed at wasting the time and petrol.
Fellow Old-Worldies; may I please direct your attention to, and solicit your support for, a poll requesting our very own space in the Garage Sale section:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186014
Thank you!
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=186014
Thank you!
Do you have other mechanics sets to compare?I'm looking to buy best set on the market today.
I cant find any old stock Viiala files.
Vallorbe chainsaw files are great.
I needed a torque wrench with a good scale.This is a 1/2 model.
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shoturtle
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Why not?
Their free sample giveaway meant Shoturtle completed the set by buying extra Felo drivers.
Personally I think it's a conspiracy, they must know that once someone on here has one screwdriver they then need to purchase the rest of the set.
Yup, must be a conspiracy. I like good drivers, and they got me to build out 3 sets of drivers total.
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Nice set Rusik
Wera impact driver
Guys,when/why Bahco stopped making adjustable wrenches in Sweden?
They suddenly disappeared from the shops here.
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we have the kits sold at $ 30. sale
Found a potential deal, a guy is selling 20 taps and 50 dies for around 25 Euros
They are communist era taps and dies and look kind of like in this picture:
Are these salvageable from all the corrosion they are in right now?
They are communist era taps and dies and look kind of like in this picture:
Are these salvageable from all the corrosion they are in right now?
Miskin
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just the files or a holder like this: ?
yeah some special files might be made here (or NOS...) the holders says "Made in Germany" too but if the attached files are (still...) from here......? Most files say "Made by Pferd" and will be made here: http://engineering.indiabizclub.com/profile/1162896~pferd+tools+pvt.ltd.~nashik_india
i think i have a Öberg file laying around somewhere with a yellow handle from Sweden.... btw. do you know something about Viialia (?) files from Finland ?
it seems it did
Hi Monte, no sorry, i have no knowledge of Viialia, but can do some search, i understand and read swedish, so maybe that will be a help. As for Öberg, maybe some local community arcive has information about the company. The only finnish tools i have, is scissors from Fiskars, garden tools from danish Zinck-Lysbro, now made by Fiskars, and some old chisels from Woodpecker (a brand of Hackman). I checked the Pferd chainsaw files, they most be old NOS, the carton says "Made in W-Germany"
So it´s India allright now...funny they don´t have a website - or maybe they don´t want to make a fuss about Pferd-India. Btw., was on a "buy the last Matador-Germany-stuff tour" to the local Bauhaus yesterday, and among the new 13 mm wrenches, there was one HR India wrench, with Matador sticker and barcode! Maybe thats where the "new" more glossy wrenches comes from? Not a bad choice, ref. to your scanned tests...
Too bad, I didn´t carry a camera.Bahco was aquired, first by swedish Sandvik, to form Sandvik-Bacho. Later they were both sold to Snap-on europe to form the SNA Europe. Most of their tools are now made in Spain at Herramientas Eurotools (also bought by Snap-on) or Argentina at the former Bahco Southamerica factory. I think the last wrenches i have seen with "made in sweden" was about 5-6 years ago. Their famous pipe wrenches (well, at least in Scandinavia...) changed to Argentina a year ago (in danish shops).
i have a "Pferd" set which is good (for me...). Bahco cuts good too, maybe i would choose Bahco or something from switzerland
btw. Viiala:
http://www.ebay.de/sch/i.html?_nkw=viiala&_sacat=0&_odkw=viialia&_osacat=0&_from=R40
btw. chainsaw filesVallorbe chainsaw files are great.
http://www.ebay.de/sch/Agrar-Forst-Kommune-/11748/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=öberg
congratulation
here on sale too but only $20.-
maybe with the electrolysis method ?
welcome backI'm back !!!
here pics for all my buddy's, that is from my new work place
so where do you work now ? pics ?
Hi Monte, no sorry, i have no knowledge of Viialia, but can do some search, i understand and read swedish, so maybe that will be a help. As for Öberg, maybe some local community arcive has information about the company. The only finnish tools i have, is scissors from Fiskars, garden tools from danish Zinck-Lysbro, now made by Fiskars, and some old chisels from Woodpecker (a brand of Hackman). I checked the Pferd chainsaw files, they most be old NOS, the carton says "Made in W-Germany"
in this pdf you can read that they started file production in india in 1990:
http://www.pferd.com/images/Prospekt_100_Jahre_PFERD_72dpi_de.pdf
(page 11 where the india flag is)
here is more info about öberg in swedish:
http://www.eskilstuna.se/sv/Uppleva...iska-artiklar/Industrihistoria/C-O-Oberg--Co/
and in english:
http://www.chainsawcollectors.se/phpbb3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=14312
i´ve seen sockets too with Matador plastic label but without name on the socket.... so it seems somebody couldn´t deliver in time so they sourced the tools elsewhere......
some misc "tools in action" pics
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That looks like a comprehensive nut and bolt storage system, how big is your supply usually Monte?
I searched the subject in swedish, thought that some local paper might made a story ´bout this, and yes:
From unt.se, Uppsala nya tidning (Uppsala new daily):
Published: 2007-06-28 - Sista skiftnyckeln tillverkad i Enköping
Sista skiftnyckeln har lämnat Bahco Verktyg i Fanna, eller SNA Europe som företaget nu heter. I dag fredag upphör all tillverkning av verktyg i den anrika Enköpingsanläggningen.
Bahco Verktyg köptes av Sandvik AB 1991, och vidare till amerikanskägda Snap-On 1999. I februari 2006 kom beskedet att tillverkningen i Enköping skulle läggas ned, och samma år böt bolaget namn från Bahco AB till SNA Europe.
Nedmonteringen av smidespressar och maskiner har pågått steg för steg sedan i december förra året, och stora ytor i verkstäderna ekar tomma. Hittills har omkring 100 lastbilar fyllda med maskiner och gods fraktats till Spanien där tillverkningen ska fortsätta, fortfarande med märkesnamnet Bahco tryckt på godset, men Made in Spain, inte Made in Sweden.
När UNT besöker Fannaanläggningen på torsdagen harsmidespressarna redan stängts för gott, de sista råämnena till nycklar har pressats och lämnat smedjan. En smidespress på 40 ton och med 1600 tons presskraft har monterats ned och ska forslas till Vitória i Spanien, en annan står kvar, den ska säljas.
My humble translation:
"Last adjustable wrench from Enköping
The last wrench has left the Bahco works in Fanna, Sweden, or SNA Europe, as the company is renamed. Today, friday, all production of tools ceased in the legendary bouldings in Enköping.
Bahco tools was aquired by Sandvik in 1991 and passed to american owned Snap On in 1999. In february 2006 the message was given, that the production in Enköping should be closed, and the same year the company name was changed to SNA Europe.
The disassembly of the drop forge presses and machines has been going on since december last year (2006) and large spaces in the plant stands empty. By now, 100 trucks loaded with machines and goods has been transfered to Spain, where the production will continue, still with the brand Bahco pressed in the die, but Made in Spain, not Made in Sweden.
When UNT are visting the Fanna plant thursday, the drop forge presses are closed for good, the last raw parts are pressed and has left the forgery. A 40 tonnes drop forge press with 1600 tonnes impact is dismounted and is about to a journey to Vitoria, Spain. A second press remains, to be sold at highest bid."
I'm back !!!
here pics for all my buddy's, that is from my new work place
btw: thanks for all GJ members to shared their awesome tools pics, you all the best!!!!!!!
Hi MrTools, nice Öberg files! And even "made in Sweden". Öberg "classics"
Hi Monte, yes, the eskilstuna page was where i got the Öberg story from. On the chainsaw...page they have translated the complete story. Impressive!
It is strange though, with the internet in a larger view, there seems to be a "dead time zone" from about 1960´s to 1990. Older stuff of historic interest is well covered by organizations, collectors and heritage museums, and new stuff (from after the internet breakthrough), is of course well documentet. This goes for tools, industrial history, cars and music as well.
Regarding Matador, have they closed production, or is it just the tools for Bauhaus that comes from asia now?
When you get the Felo in your hands you will forget about Gedore screwdrivers, Gedore guy!
Yes I know.
All my screwdrivers are Felo ergonic rebranded for wurth.
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Same here. Just need to find a GOOD dealer and not the local one who's a real ****. Been having problems with that company for years now.
Why not?
Their free sample giveaway meant Shoturtle completed the set by buying extra Felo drivers.
Personally I think it's a conspiracy, they must know that once someone on here has one screwdriver they then need to purchase the rest of the set.
If it was a conspiracy then I should be the one behind that conspiracy AND have a big set of free Felo's. I can tell you that's NOT the case! As I explained above, I'm still trying to find a good dealer (thanks Dutch distributor! which is the same distributor for NWS, Heyco & Heytec...), let alone have a nice set of Felo's...
When you get the Felo in your hands you will forget about Gedore screwdrivers, Gedore guy!
The crappy handle of Gedore and fit with screws is the reason why I started looking for new screwdrivers.
I have a pretty extended set of Gedore screwdrivers but my main screwdriver is a Stanley 68-012 for the simple reason that I won't strip any screws with it when I apply some more torque. With the Gedore's it always ends with stripped screws. In every size.
And on top of that I find the handle of a Gedore screwdriver very uncomfortable nowadays. They give me cramp in the palm of my hand. And that's no fun....
Quoted for the picture. Nice and clean set of tools with some nice organisation going on in that toolcase.
BTW: Are you liking your Gedore pliers? I surely do. I only wish that they would still make them with the Gedolat-handle material. It's definitly harder wearing than the 2-component handles...
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user.nr.1
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I need a second opinion.
My girlfriend told me I have problem, but I don't see it.
My girlfriend told me I have problem, but I don't see it.
The next time your girlfriend makes a comment like that again, quickly come back with your own comment, such as:
....I have a problem? Look who's talking about someone else having a problem! How about all those shoe's you've got in the closet to start off with!
....I have a problem? Look who's talking about someone else having a problem! How about all those shoe's you've got in the closet to start off with!
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Miskin
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I need a second opinion.
My girlfriend told me I have problem, but I don't see it.
Your girlfriend told you the truth. She ment that you need 3/8 and 1/2 too!!
i only have a small selection of nuts and washers in M6 to M12 and a couple of screws. The plan is to purchase several screw and nut assortments in metal/plastic cases like in the pic below:
i dunno, for the cars i´m interested in there is plenty of info available.....i also don´t mind reading a book
In case of Bahco tools maybe there simply is more history to tell in the early years, how the company started etc. the products invented etc. later history is mostly outsourcing to Argentina or Spain and lost jobs in Sweden, something which you don´t want to read in your companies history.....nice collection !!
Your girlfriend has a problem
or you have a problem: your girlfriend
old Bahco vs. new Bahco file handle:
assortment of file handles
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I need a second opinion.
My girlfriend told me I have problem, but I don't see it.
She's right! The KS Tools doesn't belong in your German collection!
Monte, what you think about this socket set? http://www.amazon.de/dp/B001O562AM/
Who produce it?
Thanx
Who produce it?
Thanx
Thanks buddy!!welcome back
so where do you work now ? pics ?
I'm work with US company now, but I'm still interested with Germany and Japan tools
sorry I'm not allowed to take a pics, but I take some tools pics for all of us.. see below
great information thank to shared
nice pics keep more pics coming
Hi Roverbo!
it's truly great files, still sharp for over than 10 years used
nowadays it very difficult to see the Swedish made file, so I keep it for my collection
nice driver buddyYes I know.
All my screwdrivers are Felo ergonic rebranded for wurth.
awesome
I think we all have this problem
btw: nice bit ratchet collection
so which one you prefer? I think the old one is more comfortable to with more rubber
what is the file handle at the top of the pic? it look like my Baiter file handleassortment of file handles
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It´s made by WGB
http://www.wgb-werkzeuge.de/produkte.detail.html?id=80&Umschaltknarre
the sockets are ok, the ratchet is a bit rough finished but other than that ok. The price is very good....
thanks for the pics ! it seems your new company has some nice tools too !Thanks buddy!!
I'm work with US company now, but I'm still interested with Germany and Japan tools
sorry I'm not allowed to take a pics, but I take some tools pics for all of us.. see below
difficult....the old one has this "bulge" around the hole on one side... the rubber of the old one is nice though....but the new one tooso which one you prefer? I think the old one is more comfortable to with more rubber
it´s from Beta, but you´re right the shape looks the samewhat is the file handle at the top of the pic? it look like my Baiter file handle
btw. did you get your tool box ?
here some pics:
My free Felo PZ2 has arrived today - woohoo! Looks and feels quality.
I tried the gravity-defying-screwdriver trick, and it works, but then it also does with my Wiha and even my Halfords driver - although not quite as snugly in the case of the Halfords
Anyhow, it seems to be a very nice screwdriver and I'm looking forward to seeing how I get on with the grip. I may need to go dig out some screws and a chunk of old 2x4
I tried the gravity-defying-screwdriver trick, and it works, but then it also does with my Wiha and even my Halfords driver - although not quite as snugly in the case of the Halfords
Anyhow, it seems to be a very nice screwdriver and I'm looking forward to seeing how I get on with the grip. I may need to go dig out some screws and a chunk of old 2x4
My free Felo PZ2 has arrived today - woohoo! Looks and feels quality.
I tried the gravity-defying-screwdriver trick, and it works, but then it also does with my Wiha and even my Halfords driver - although not quite as snugly in the case of the Halfords
Anyhow, it seems to be a very nice screwdriver and I'm looking forward to seeing how I get on with the grip. I may need to go dig out some screws and a chunk of old 2x4
me too but i have received only catalogs not screwdriver
me too but i have received only catalogs not screwdriver
Strange. Did you definitely select either a PZ or PH driver at the top right of the page?
Hello everybody from Bulgaria! Today i was surprised from Felo response to my delivery request?! You can see it here--
Dear Mr. Ivanov,
We are very glad to hear about your interest in our range of high quality screwdrivers.
The free screwdrivers are intended to be a sample to get to know our screwdrivers better.
Please understand that we therefore only send one screwdriver per household.
Best regards
Helena Rosien
They mean that already i must have their free screwdriver but it is not true. Before week from company said to me that they don't have dealer in Bulgaria and they can't send me nothing. After this i send inquiry again and today i received this email. Actually i dont know whats happening?!?
Dear Mr. Ivanov,
We are very glad to hear about your interest in our range of high quality screwdrivers.
The free screwdrivers are intended to be a sample to get to know our screwdrivers better.
Please understand that we therefore only send one screwdriver per household.
Best regards
Helena Rosien
They mean that already i must have their free screwdriver but it is not true. Before week from company said to me that they don't have dealer in Bulgaria and they can't send me nothing. After this i send inquiry again and today i received this email. Actually i dont know whats happening?!?
Hello everybody from Bulgaria! Today i was surprised from Felo response to my delivery request?! You can see it here--
Dear Mr. Ivanov,
We are very glad to hear about your interest in our range of high quality screwdrivers.
The free screwdrivers are intended to be a sample to get to know our screwdrivers better.
Please understand that we therefore only send one screwdriver per household.
Best regards
Helena Rosien
They mean that already i must have their free screwdriver but it is not true. Before week from company said to me that they don't have dealer in Bulgaria and they can't send me nothing. After this i send inquiry again and today i received this email. Actually i dont know whats happening?!?
That's response for Balkan guys xD
i´m not a big fan of the Proxxon or WGB/ISI ratchets.....
maybe i would get the ISI set and a better ratchet....
The ratchets seem to be german made, i dunno about the sockets....the newer WGB sockets seem to be imported, so will be the ISI sockets i guess ....???
"Bench cookies" anti slip work piece holders from Holzkraft
www.holzkraft-maschinen.de
....so i don´t have to clamp down the work piece anymore, it also prevents scratching the (painted) surface and the vibration of the tool doesn´t go from the workpiece into the workbench top so the work piece don´t "wander" around anymore.
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Hello everybody from Bulgaria! Today i was surprised from Felo response to my delivery request?! You can see it here--
Dear Mr. Ivanov,
We are very glad to hear about your interest in our range of high quality screwdrivers.
The free screwdrivers are intended to be a sample to get to know our screwdrivers better.
Please understand that we therefore only send one screwdriver per household.
Best regards
Helena Rosien
They mean that already i must have their free screwdriver but it is not true. Before week from company said to me that they don't have dealer in Bulgaria and they can't send me nothing. After this i send inquiry again and today i received this email. Actually i dont know whats happening?!?
I had quite a similarly worded (maybe identical) email. Screwdriver turned up today (UK).
i´m not a big fan of the Proxxon or WGB/ISI ratchets.....
maybe i would get the ISI set and a better ratchet....
The ratchets seem to be german made, i dunno about the sockets....the newer WGB sockets seem to be imported, so will be the ISI sockets i guess ....???
"Bench cookies" anti slip work piece holders from Holzkraft
www.holzkraft-maschinen.de
....so i don´t have to clamp down the work piece anymore, it also prevents scratching the (painted) surface and the vibration of the tool doesn´t go from the workpiece into the workbench top so the work piece don´t "wander" around anymore.
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Thank you
Nice stuff
This is my standard bench-cookie....
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From the old world...made in Germany...
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Thanks, it was a subject that interests me too, and your question pushed me into searching the subject a litle further. Even more fund of my swedish bahcos now..