Tools from the old world

[cosmik binturong]

Forester is the lesbo mobile and it is pretty ugly. The legacy is nice. But not to many suburu dealer around me. So pricing and comparing different dealerships are hearder. Honda and toyota and nissan are more comman japanese options.

oh sorry, how insensible that was of me!

i forgot what an un-amerikan and un-masculine choice of a vehicle a Forester might be for some.

御免なさい



yeah, right... get a real car then like, say, a Hummer.

 

[shoturtle]

I like suburu, but some of their designs are just a complete miss. Forester is one. ,but the lagecy and wrx are pretty nice cars.

 

[BJ42LX]

 

[cosmik binturong]

I like suburu, but some of their designs are just a complete miss. Forester is one. ,but the lagecy and wrx are pretty nice cars.

a good car for roaming in the mountains is not necessarily an aesthetically pleasing one, eh!

 

[Blöckw@rt]

- Belzer: 8 metric deep offset box wrenches
- Beta: 8 metric open end wrenches
- Craftsman: 17 SAE combination wrenches
- Craftsman: 4 SAE line wrenches
- Facom: 17 metric combination wrenches w/ ratcheting open end
- Gedore: 5 metric line wrenches
- Gedore: 10 metric open end wrenches
- Gedore: 12 metric ratcheting wrenches
- Gedore: 16 metric mini open end wrenches
- Hazet: 11 metric open end wrenches
- Hazet: 20 metric combination wrenches
- Hazet: 4 Torx wrenches
- Hazet: 8 metric flat box wrenches
- Stahlwille: 7 metric combination wrenches
- Stahlwille: 7 metric deep offset box wrenches
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= 154 wrenches

+ 49 in the 13mm collection and a open end collection which includes a few other wrenches of 22 pieces and like 2 dozens from the flea market...

Very nice !!!


I have wrenches from roundabout 30 different brands, a total list would be too time-consuming.

But I have only 7.....13mm combinated wrenches………something goes wrong...

 

[Blöckw@rt]

Older **** from GEDORE !

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[Buickguy]

tHE RUBBER THING INSIDE THE TIRE IS A RUN FLAT, SO WHEN THE TIRE GOES FLAT YOU CAN STILL DRIVE IT WITHOUT DAMAGING THE RIM.

 

[shoturtle]

a good car for roaming in the mountains is not necessarily an aesthetically pleasing one, eh!

True, but it has to be pleasing to the owner as well.

 

[Nocturnal-G]

True, but it has to be pleasing to the owner as well.

Shoturtle, müssen Sie nicht wie Mercedes? Ich denke, der GLK wäre perfekt für Ihre Bedürfnisse.

 

[Blöckw@rt]

@shoturtle

The winters in the Taunus area are not so hard, snow chains are the answer !

If you are directly on the Feldberg take this Smart.

Or one size bigger this VW T3.

 

[shoturtle]

Shoturtle, müssen Sie nicht wie Mercedes? Ich denke, der GLK wäre perfekt für Ihre Bedürfnisse.

Der MB ist schön, aber es ist zu groß. Der X1 und der Mini Countryman sind kleiner. Ich denke einen 2.5L Motor braucht zu viele Benzin auch. 2.0 oder kleiner sind besser für Deutschland, weil Benzin zu teuer paar Liter sind.

 

[shoturtle]

@shoturtle

The winters in the Taunus area are not so hard, snow chains are the answer !

If you are directly on the Feldberg take this Smart.

Or one size bigger this VW T3.

I work by the Feldberg, so 4wd is the better option.

 

[N.I.]

Just wow!!
Nice find man. The ratchet is the old good u2?

Yes its an old U2 ratchet. Still works as she should.

The big (although bended) pry bar. Who knows what is this, inside the tire?
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I think a run flat device as suggested by Buickguy is probably the best guess?

What is the thing just behind it with the four legs and hydraulic cylinder connected to it?

 

[Maexle]

True, but it has to be pleasing to the owner as well.

This one: Audi A4 tdi quattro kombi....:

 

[mac_intosh]

Or that blue one (Subaru), which is Richard driving :

already Africa tested...

(sorry, didn´t found a better clip)

 

[mr_jack]

Der MB ist schön, aber es ist zu groß. Der X1 und der Mini Countryman sind kleiner. Ich denke einen 2.5L Motor braucht zu viele Benzin auch. 2.0 oder kleiner sind besser für Deutschland, weil Benzin zu teuer paar Liter sind.

If you're going to climb hills in the winter forget the X1 and the Mini. The X1 is too long and I'm not sure that thing's got a low-range gearbox and diff-locks and that's exactly what you need on the snow.
Get yourself a Nissan Patrol - the short wheelbase (3 door model). 3.0L V6 Diesel, not the petrol engine, cause it's a f****n' gas guzzler - 30 l/100 km.

Actually my fellow-countryman Mitkoasd had a good idea with the Lada Niva, although I'm not quite sure that he actually had ever driven one. The Lada Niva is just a rugged simplicity - it can take a lot of beating and it can get you on a top of a hill. It's designed to be driven off-road, not on the road, 'cause if you speed it up to a 120 km/h the noise in the car is just unbelievable. In English "Niva" actually means "field".

But ... as every other russian car it hasn't been well engineered. The year 2000 model has the same issues as the one built in ... for example 1985. There are some parts that you have to replace regularly. And the damn thing's got just 40l fuel tank and driving it in the snow takes up a lot of petrol.

Get yourself a regular 4x4 diesel with low-range gearbox and diff-locks and with some practice you'll be happy with the results.

 

[Mitkoasd]

If you're going to climb hills in the winter forget the X1 and the Mini. The X1 is too long and I'm not sure that thing's got a low-range gearbox and diff-locks and that's exactly what you need on the snow.
Get yourself a Nissan Patrol - the short wheelbase (3 door model). 3.0L V6 Diesel, not the petrol engine, cause it's a f****n' gas guzzler - 30 l/100 km.

Actually my fellow-countryman Mitkoasd had a good idea with the Lada Niva, although I'm not quite sure that he actually had ever driven one. The Lada Niva is just a rugged simplicity - it can take a lot of beating and it can get you on a top of a hill. It's designed to be driven off-road, not on the road, 'cause if you speed it up to a 120 km/h the noise in the car is just unbelievable. In English "Niva" actually means "field".

But ... as every other russian car it hasn't been well engineered. The year 2000 model has the same issues as the one built in ... for example 1985. There are some parts that you have to replace regularly. And the damn thing's got just 40l fuel tank and driving it in the snow takes up a lot of petrol.

Get yourself a regular 4x4 diesel with low-range gearbox and diff-locks and with some practice you'll be happy with the results.

My actually working car since 2007 is Lada Nive dude. For the field it can't be beaten but regular roads it's not for it. Noise inside above 110 km/h is terrifyng.

 

[Monte]

Question for the European members. I am looking at getting a 4wd drive car/truck. On my short list are the mini countryman Diesel, BMW X1 and the VW tiguan. Any opinions on these 3. Figure they will be my work tools as I work in the mountain area around frankfurt and the 4wd would come in handy in the snow and it will be a tool form the old world. In the US I would just get another jeep. But not a good fuel economy option for Germany.

If you are a woman: Mini
If you want the status: BMW
If you are a pensioner: VW

I have wrenches from roundabout 30 different brands, a total list would be too time-consuming.

But I have only 7.....13mm combinated wrenches………something goes wrong...

30 brands ?? I know like 6 who make wrenches time to upgrade
yeah 7 is not enough





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another 13mm combo wrench from the Cosmik Binturong collection:
Mr. Bricolage
www.mr-bricolage.fr

 

[lauver]

Monte & old world gang,

I need help ID'ing a wrench. I believe it could be Euro in origin but don't know for sure. There's very little information to go on. It looks like it could be part of a factory motorcycle or auto tool-kit, but this is just a guess.

Here's a couple of photo's showing what's available in the clues department:





Note: the markings shown in these two photo's are the only clues on the wrench; the flip side looks the same but has no markings.

If you recognize this wrench or the makers mark, I'm interested in knowing:

Where made,

When made (approx decade),

Who made it, and

Is there a brand associated with this wrench?

Thanks for any help, links, ideas, theories, whatever you might know.

 

[Nocturnal-G]

Der MB ist schön, aber es ist zu groß. Der X1 und der Mini Countryman sind kleiner. Ich denke einen 2.5L Motor braucht zu viele Benzin auch. 2.0 oder kleiner sind besser für Deutschland, weil Benzin zu teuer paar Liter sind.

The MB is a 2.1 liter 4 cylinder turbo diesel... it gets 35 miles per gallon. I agree it's bigger than those two but it's much more efficient. Has 4 wheel drive and lots of space. How much does diesel cost in Germany?

 

[qba]

 

[mac_intosh]

@ lauver,

I didn´t found the stamp of the wrench, but here are two links for further identifications:

http://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/deutsch.phtml

http://www.alte-beitel.de/marken_d.html

 

[qba]

 

[lok]

tHE RUBBER THING INSIDE THE TIRE IS A RUN FLAT, SO WHEN THE TIRE GOES FLAT YOU CAN STILL DRIVE IT WITHOUT DAMAGING THE RIM.

That's right.

Yes its an old U2 ratchet. Still works as she should.



I think a run flat device as suggested by Buickguy is probably the best guess?

What is the thing just behind it with the four legs and hydraulic cylinder connected to it?

It's a tire removal device. Remove the tire from the rim.

I also have a U2 rathcet. It's a little bulky but very smooth.

i would sell my soul for that

I' think my dealer have a better price. I'll ask when I came back because now I'm away from home.

did you try to warranty it...? maybe they exchange them ...?
no problems with mine though....

No I didn't, maybe I should. Thanks.

btw. the scissor collection

Nice.

 

[lauver]

@ lauver,

I didn´t found the stamp of the wrench, but here are two links for further identifications:

http://www.holzwerken.de/museum/hersteller/deutsch.phtml

http://www.alte-beitel.de/marken_d.html

mac_intosh,

Thanks for the reply and links. I'll check them out.

 

[Monte]

Monte & old world gang,

i dunno but maybe japanese or american ? There was a US manufacturer who made wrenches with the raised panel like that in the past but since most american wrenches have the sizes stamped into the tool after forging and because of the unusual sign i thought it might be japanese....???

.

nice !

I' think my dealer have a better price.

another one: Autobest
www.auto-best.com

 

[shoturtle]

The MB is a 2.1 liter 4 cylinder turbo diesel... it gets 35 miles per gallon. I agree it's bigger than those two but it's much more efficient. Has 4 wheel drive and lots of space. How much does diesel cost in Germany?

diesel is 1.47 euro, gas is 1.59 euro per liter today. So it is still pretty expensive. That is why I am looking at 1.4 and 1.6 and 1.8 liter engines.

 

[shoturtle]

If you are a woman: Mini
If you want the status: BMW
If you are a pensioner: VW

Monty,

So what all wheel driver or 4wd would you suggest that has a sub 2.0liter diesel engine. Wont buy an opel, will never every buy a gm product. But open for all else.

 

[Ratchet.]

got a whole load to post about on here :I still need to sort out an photograph the majority of the power tools i got, so for now have some random bits


First one of the power tools, a nice old 110v AEG Jig saw (BSPE 100) Made in West Germany so probably pre 1990








Really nice piece of kit, has adjustable blade rake as well as with speed (has a table on the front for cutting speeds for different materials), seems to have seen a fair bit of use of use but has been really looked after as its in fantastic condition.

In its original metal box too, sadly its missing the original hex key for fitting blades, need to see if i can find the correct one to fit the space in the foam

*i have given it more of a clean up since those pics as it had a fair bit of sawdust still around it.







Hazet 450n 17/19mm really nice spanners these, probably going to get a set of them as this is the only one i currently have, one of my "go to" wrenches and a unknown West German made hex t-wrench, which is in an rather odd size being 5/64ths apart from the sticker its unmarked/branded





Record #4 g clamp, (proper Made in England one) got this one off of ebay, was silly cheap too as its in great condition.


Lastly another Ubiquitous UK made tool, a PCL Mark3 tyre inflator,




These are pretty much the de-facto tyre inflator in garages over here, this one is slightly modified though, in that I have scribed the line into the sight glass, as they always rub off. (you need to align two lines on the "glass" to read the scale accurately one is inside the glass, the other is on the outside so often wears away, bit of a design flaw really)

 

[Roverbo]

diesel is 1.47 euro, gas is 1.59 euro per liter today. So it is still pretty expensive. That is why I am looking at 1.4 and 1.6 and 1.8 liter engines.

Hi Shoturtle,
True, the gas is really expensive here in Europe...same here in scandinavia...
Even though, this is my daily driver...

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3.9 l. V8 - very thirsty. 6-7 km/l.
But if i should go to the bank with the purpose of buying a new car, my monthly payment would be the same. An old Rangie cost nearly nothing, it will take you anywhere, snow or mud won´t stop it, and i´d rather pay my money for gas, than to the bank...
Make a calculation, and decide where to put your money.
But please note, this is only for the economy...reliability...hmmm...you are a mechanic, right?...let´s discuss that some other time...

 

[N.I.]

Unior quick release 1/2" drive 75 tooth ratchet and a Bahco Dual 80.

I don't know if the Bahco belongs here or not. Some people claim it is made in Spain and others in the US








The Unior ratchet is actually pretty sweet and I would definitely recommend. Very well made, very smooth, fairly light and has a nice handle. The ratcheting torque is unbelievably low. It is my new favourite ratchet.

It is also very slim for a quick release, e.g compared to a Facom pear head-




(FYI it was only £15 and the seller has another for sale if anyone (in the UK) is interested Clicky )

 

[rickhigginshtbr]

Found this little gem in a 4/$1 bin at a flea market this past weekend. Polished up fairly nicely, definitely a keeper for my collection. Any idea on a manufacturer and age? The "Made" is worn away in the "Made in Germany". It's about 5" long.

 

[mac_intosh]

Many of similar screwdrivers were sold at eBay here in Germany as part of the BMW 501/507 tool-kit, but I don´t know if it´s true so take it as a well-meant guess

 

[lauver]

i dunno but maybe japanese or american ? There was a US manufacturer who made wrenches with the raised panel like that in the past but since most american wrenches have the sizes stamped into the tool after forging and because of the unusual sign i thought it might be japanese....???

Monte,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your thoughts. I'll see what I can find among Japanese tool manu's.

Is there a Japanese Tool guru here among the GJ? If so, who?

 

[Monte]

Monty,

So what all wheel driver or 4wd would you suggest that has a sub 2.0liter diesel engine. Wont buy an opel, will never every buy a gm product. But open for all else.

I dunno, never looked for newer cars since i´m bankrupt and the value loss is too high. I would take a car with start/stop automatic if you are concerned about the gas consumption. The "BMW X1 sDrive20d EfficientDynamics Edition" for example only needs 4,5 liter gas (combined). I also would look into the "Auto Bild" magazine and check out real gas consumtion of the cars.....

First one of the power tools, a nice old 110v AEG Jig saw (BSPE 100) Made in West Germany so probably pre 1990

wow very nice ! the older black AEG tools were very good !

Monte,

Thanks for the reply. I appreciate your thoughts. I'll see what I can find among Japanese tool manu's.

Is there a Japanese Tool guru here among the GJ? If so, who?

here are some USA made wrenches which i had in mind but they look different:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180993&page=55
(post 1083 , picture 19)

maybe member "superautobacs" knows more about it ?









another 13mm combo wrench:

 

[mattyrattypoo]

Got these in the mail today.

Metabo SX E 400 for detailing
Festool (BMI) tape measure
Wera 818/4/1


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[upgrading]

The Unior ratchet looks cool.

Any vendor in the U.S. sell them ?

 

[lauver]

here are some USA made wrenches which i had in mind but they look different:
http://garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=180993&page=55
(post 1083 , picture 19)

maybe member "superautobacs" knows more about it ?

Monte,

I'll PM Superautobacs, he is a good guy and quite knowledgeable. I had forgotten his name though.

I checked the link you posted above. You must be talking about the Blue-point Supreme wrenches with the rib down the shank. Williams also made a similar ribbed wrench. But, neither of these look even close to my mystery wrench.

The search continues... will let you know what Super has to say.

 

[TopFuel]

My actually working car since 2007 is Lada Nive dude. For the field it can't be beaten but regular roads it's not for it. Noise inside above 110 km/h is terrifyng.

We need photos of the Niva!

 

[2oolhound]

Monte & old world gang,

I need help ID'ing a wrench. I believe it could be Euro in origin but don't know for sure. There's very little information to go on. It looks like it could be part of a factory motorcycle or auto tool-kit, but this is just a guess.

Here's a couple of photo's showing what's available in the clues department:





Note: the markings shown in these two photo's are the only clues on the wrench; the flip side looks the same but has no markings.

If you recognize this wrench or the makers mark, I'm interested in knowing:

Where made,

When made (approx decade),

Who made it, and

Is there a brand associated with this wrench?

Thanks for any help, links, ideas, theories, whatever you might know.

Here are some similar wrenches made by BTC of Japan. I picked them up from a retired Japanese mechanic. He brought the wrenches over from Japan with him when he came to Canada so I think they must be around 30 years old or so (guessing).

The 1st pic shows 4 wrenches with every second wrench flipped to show the reverse side. These are Chrome Vanadium.



The 2st pic shows 2 wrenches with the second wrench flipped to show the reverse side. These are Chrome Moly but they are very similar otherwise. The raised pannel in the centre of the beam flares out at the ends instead of the straight **** joint on the 1st set.



This 3rd photo has both sets and an old Blue Point (snap-on) in the centre like Monte pointed out above (post 1083 , picture 19). The Blue Point does resemble the Chrome Moly design but I'm leaning toward a Japanese manufacturer for your wrench also.