Tools from the old world

[mr_jack]

Some new pics:

Nice pics and tools!

 

[lok]

welcome back
i guess because Stahlwille is a premium brand and Garant only a "no-name" brand for the people who want to spend less like me

And me!

Some new pics:

WoW!!! Nice tools and beautiful photos.



Some tools from work. Sorry for the crappy cellphone pics.

Most of them are acesa, beta and gedore. For inches SK and KD.
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[JukeBox]

Thanks guys!

Harder & Steenbeck Evolution Silverline with 0.2 & 0.6 nozzles.

Pics:

...and a video from the factory in Deutschland.

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[Tomassino]

So awhile back I mentioned I had picked up a large haul of tools from a retired plumber. Well I finally got round to going through everything and taking photos to share with you guys.

I originally spotted the auction as I was after a Record vice (old world, ofcourse) and saw a listing for a Record No. 25, some power tools and assorted hand tools. It had no bids and was only 1 mile up the road, so decided to go for it. Won the auction for a very low price (I was the only bidder ) and went to collect. The guy was 74 and had been a plumber since he was 18, now didn't use his tools and wanted them moving on. They all came in a home made wooden tool box, which he mentioned he built when he first started. Enjoy the pics!

The vice itself is really nice. Strong, been well used but also well looked after. The thing is massive!

Here's the rest of the stuff:

500w Black & Decker Drill. Presume this is '70s/'80s? Made in West Germany. Works perfectly.

550w Black & Deck Circular Saw. Made in West Germany. Works perfectly also!

Wolf Drill. This thing is a monster. Unfortunately it doesn't work. Made in England.

Into Aladdin's Cave then!

Here is most of it laid out on the kitchen floor. Don't tell the Mrs!

Here are some close ups:

Cold chisels and drifts/punches

Spanners - all are BSF or Whitworth. Makes include Garrington, King ****, Lion Brand, VBW, Bedford.

Pliers, pipe wrench and wire stripper. Pliers on the right are CK.

Wooden hammers, bradawl and mini-sledge

Tenon saw, various size planes & chisels.

More planes and woodworking tools

USM Pop Rivetter (presume US in origin?)

Nut drivers, BSF sizes. Socket, extension and adapter are Gedore Germany. Socket is Whitworth.

Squares (set & adjustable), solid steel screwdrivers (Does anyone know what these are for? Any particular reason you need a solid screwdriver?), couple of wrenches and a no-name ratchet (3/8).

A collection of files:

Leading/soldering tools (I presume?), chain pipe wrench and some kind of woodworking tool for gouging out chamfered holes (not sure the name)

Marking out tool, *correction* springs to prevent copper pipe collapsing whilst beinding

Hand drills, drill bit box, trowel and board, two wooden dollies (I think?)

Even the hacksaw is made in Sheffield!

Very pleased with this lot. I have managed to get quite a few tools from it, as well as the B&D drill & circ saw. I'm planning to part out the rest, as I don't have much use for Whitworth or BSF stuff, and I don't really have the skills to rebuild the Wolf. If any of you guys are interested in something, happy to do trades or whatever.

 

[Big Pete]

the steel springs are for bending copper pipe without collapsing it.

 

[Tomassino]

the steel springs are for bending copper pipe without collapsing it.

Always learning! Thanks.

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

or this one: *clicky!* less weight and a bit more power.

should be right around the 200.00€ mark once shipped...

Thank you

I am going to renew my locking pliers.
Monte posted the beautiful Facom T5.L not long ago... but it is too pricy.
Or can I buy them from another company of Stanley Black & Decker?
I would love to buy locking pliers from Grip-On, because they are epoxi resin coated. But Elora has them only in standard nickel coated.
Can you buy Grip-On in Germany?

Fun fact:
Half of the locking pliers that Elora offers are made by Bollmann (even the revolving punch pliers). The locking pliers that Bollmann does not manufacture are made by Grip-On.
You can read an article (it is in German language) on the Bollmann homepage that says that four big companies in Germany get their locking pliers from Bollmann.

 

[north]

Nice haul Tomassino. Hopefully that Wolf is an easy fix like worn/stuck brushes, poor trigger contact or defective cord.

 

[Monte]

And me!

Thank you

I am going to renew my locking pliers.
Monte posted the beautiful Facom T5.L not long ago... but it is too pricy.
Or can I buy them from another company of Stanley Black & Decker?
I would love to buy locking pliers from Grip-On, because they are epoxi resin coated. But Elora has them only in standard nickel coated.
Can you buy Grip-On in Germany?

Fun fact:
Half of the locking pliers that Elora offers are made by Bollmann (even the revolving punch pliers). The locking pliers that Bollmann does not manufacture are made by Grip-On.
You can read an article (it is in German language) on the Bollmann homepage that says that four big companies in Germany get their locking pliers from Bollmann.

i´ve only seen the T5 from Facom...

the only one selling Grip-On with the epoxy coating in germany is Wurth afaik
http://eshop.wuerth.de/Gesamtkatalog/Gripzangen/1401602203.cyid/1401.cgid/de/DE/EUR/

Bollmann in powder coating:
http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/en/car-tools/grip-pliers.html

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

i´ve only seen the T5 from Facom...

the only one selling Grip-On with the epoxy coating in germany is Wurth afaik
http://eshop.wuerth.de/Gesamtkatalog/Gripzangen/1401602203.cyid/1401.cgid/de/DE/EUR/

Bollmann in powder coating:
http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/en/car-tools/grip-pliers.html

Thanks Monte, Würth it is.

Just out of curiosity: Who makes the pliers for the automotive sections of Gedore, Hazet, NWS...
For example the valve stem seal plier:
These three look exactly the same, have the same dimension, are made in Germany etc.

Gedore
http://www.gedore.de/de/products/article_details.html?oe_opt[list_set]=146760,137839,137843,146605

Hazet
http://www.hazet.de/produkte/online...werkzeuge/motor-ventile-kolben/4000896031467/

NWS
http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/.../id/6310/s/ventildichtringzange/category/553/

 

[101% Loko]

Gedore T7, T8, T10, T15, T20

Belzer Screwdrivers

 

[JukeBox]

Gedore T7, T8, T10, T15, T20

I have never seen this handles before. Made for brazilian market?

 

[marcone]

Thanks Monte, Würth it is.

Just out of curiosity: Who makes the pliers for the automotive sections of Gedore, Hazet, NWS...
For example the valve stem seal plier:
These three look exactly the same, have the same dimension, are made in Germany etc.

Gedore
http://www.gedore.de/de/products/article_details.html?oe_opt[list_set]=146760,137839,137843,146605

Hazet
http://www.hazet.de/produkte/online...werkzeuge/motor-ventile-kolben/4000896031467/

NWS
http://shop.nws-tools.de/index.php/.../id/6310/s/ventildichtringzange/category/553/

Since NWS is s plier company, best guess would be that they do the manufacturing for the other 2.

 

[lok]

Gedore T7, T8, T10, T15, T20


Belzer Screwdrivers

Gedore.br
http://www.gedore.com.br/en/produto-detalhe.php?SecaoID=torx%AE-screwdriver-set-with-handle&SecaoIDPai=Torx%AE-Screwdriver-Set&GrupoID=screwdrivers&i=776

The belzer is soooo nice.




My little collection grew up quite a lot.

They are all very old and most of them have seen a lot of work. They still hold up well, and the chrome has not frayed.

Ι like Their unusual shape.

But I can not find the missing ones. 13, 16, 18 and 19 are missing.
(you hear me miskin?)

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[Miskin]

Gedore.br
http://www.gedore.com.br/en/produto-detalhe.php?SecaoID=torx%AE-screwdriver-set-with-handle&SecaoIDPai=Torx%AE-Screwdriver-Set&GrupoID=screwdrivers&i=776

The belzer is soooo nice.




My little collection grew up quite a lot.

They are all very old and most of them have seen a lot of work. They still hold up well, and the chrome has not frayed.

Ι like Their unusual shape.

But I can not find the missing ones. 13, 16, 18 and 19 are missing.
(you hear me miskin?)

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[bahcoswed]

Miskin: I guess you have vacation...i miss 13mm wrenchtest

 

[Miskin]

Miskin: I guess you have vacation...i miss 13mm wrenchtest

 

[lok]

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Naaaaahh... You ****!

 

[Miskin]

Naaaaahh... You ****!

For the socket or the beach?

 

[lok]

For the socket or the beach?

For both.

 

[Monte]

nice beach where is that ?

Thanks Monte, Würth it is.

Just out of curiosity: Who makes the pliers for the automotive sections of Gedore, Hazet, NWS...
For example the valve stem seal plier:
These three look exactly the same, have the same dimension, are made in Germany etc.

sorry i´ve not yet found out who the OEM is...

Gedore T7, T8, T10, T15, T20
Belzer Screwdrivers

nice Belzer














a neighbor bought this "Top Craft" grass trimmer from the Aldi store

 

[cosmik binturong]

Thanks for the info!

Leroy Merlin in Athens. Dexter Torx drivers

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Dexter TX30 from Wiha (left) and Dexter TX30 from P.R.C. (right). Same price (5€).

same price but not same quality... the "new" Dexters are made out of melted, pre-chewed, chewing-gummish steel!

seen a couple dozens in the return bin in my favorite Leroy-Merlin store in Marseille...

Guess which followed me back home..

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guess wich overstocked ones i did buy a few month back?

Be gentle with them! Always at your service!

i will, they're too nice to be hammered with even the lightest soft faced dead blow i own so they'll be getting a Thor 03-208 rawhide'n copper faced hammer just for them. should be a good matching set...

happy me!

nice to see some rebadged Wiha tools !

here are a couple of older Leroy-Merlin branded ones along with the "Dexter" branded one.

all of them marked "Made in Germany":

i hope it´s ok as compensation for the wrenches you´ve sent me

no.

there's no need for any "compensation" for them 13mm wrenches and you know it!!!

(beside we haven't finished with those 13mm combowrenches yet! you do have six(maybe even seven ) more waiting to make their Hamburg pilgrimage later... )

So i´ll post your tools here:

Festool bit set: 6mm hex + groove = "Centrotec":


Fitment is good

Danke! they're pretty nice indeed, even for the Aldi-like price...

DON´t worry Cosmik !! i bought everything twice so i actually took pics of my tools


ok except this Gedore bit holder which i didn´t buy twice because i already had the red version

do you perchance know if there's a green Reca one too?

shaft looks different but it´s safe to say they´re both from Felo:

i still prefer the blue one!

oh and the Gedore ratchet because i didn´t see any hints you wanted one

that's because i didn't see it in blue AND 3/8"!

...ok the Festo handle instead but it seems Santa has to deliver it

Santa's gonna be busy this year methinks...

I love this Unior pliers. Got them few years ago in a raffle.

looks like we do have the same one and that we got it the same way!

(your pictures are better though... )


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woah! did i got meself a Knipex too???

even for a taiwanese Knipex it's quite a good Knipex!

good choice!

Gedore T7, T8, T10, T15, T20

neat!

enjoy your vacation!

 

[cosmik binturong]

so... i'm bored and can't sleep.

what better thing to do than post stuff i brought back from Marseille and some of the latests arrivals, eh?


here we go:

japanese cat's paw!

courtesy of la Maison Empereur by way of Dictum!

more than one euro per centimeter of steel...

the smallish Vaughan 10in. Bear Paw is looking almost big in comparison!

in keeping with this post "small + biggie", let's continue with dead blow hammers from Wiha with the small one rescued from destruction for 30 eurocents last year:

not in the best shape but for the price i didn't mind much...

now i had some impacting limitations while using a Facom 208.32 plasticky hammer with the Ko-Ken Attack Driver. not anymore! let me introduce Herr Ruckschlagfreihammer 50mm!!!

might need a bigger one next year though...

and now some oldies from Italy, more precisely from USAG!

guess what the 14mm is *only* used for?

that's it for now...

 

[Trucky]

See, now I feel like I need to move to Europe! You guys have the best access to all the good brands But I think the US has lower prices though.. maybe. Snappy truck tomorrow! (Expecting to default on my school loans because of it )

But really, I ordered a Stahlwille 3/4" off Amazon now (Got my refund from some other website that will not be named). Free 2 day shipping with Prime, the item is sold by Amazon.. so that should be like Thursday right? Nope! Pegged for the 16th.. I sure hope it shows up sooner I really want to just feel it. And use it of course!

By the way, those are some excellent T-handles you have there And more Belzer from some of you, which I don't own any of Yet.

 

[mr_jack]

woah! did i got meself a Knipex too???

even for a taiwanese Knipex it's quite a good Knipex!

No. I think HE got well overpriced Taiwanese crimpers sold as KNIPEX.

 

[Phobo]

half a year I was absent and wow sooo many posts to read :-o

here some of my latest stuff:

my first 18V Bosch blue stuff:

needed big leverage for a tight water fitting and was quite surprised that this rotherberger pump plier was only 30euros - expected more at hornbach

my first QR 1/2" stahlwille ratchet - came together with some sockets and so on

nws side cutter - in case someone is interested I still have 3 more (16e and its yours)

knipex pliers

 

[north]

Awesome comeback Phobo.

 

[Phobo]

Awesome comeback Phobo.

thx - by the way have I mentioned that I am starting a new job? Whole new field for me -> cnc machining
And best of all the place is full with Garant stuff

 

[north]

thx - by the way have I mentioned that I am starting a new job? Whole new field for me -> cnc machining

Congrats on your new job.

And best of all the place is full with Garant stuff

You know this means pics right?

 

[JukeBox]

Hi guys!

Do you miss my bad English?

Until you won't say us "Hi gays!" instead of "Hi guys!" all will be fine.

looks like we do have the same one and that we got it the same way!

Don't say you got them at the local firefighter's fete.

even for a taiwanese Knipex it's quite a good Knipex!

good choice!

Matters that the car is german.

 

[Blöckw@rt]

needed big leverage for a tight water fitting and was quite surprised that this rotherberger pump plier was only 30euros - expected more at hornbach

Good price for the 2" must be 'Made in Spain' ?!?

I’am a real fetishist of pipe wrenches and waterpump pliers.

Gruß nach Österreich.

 

[Miskin]

For both.

Your turn for vacation passed. Now it's my turn!

nice beach where is that ?
Psatha, Villia. 85 km outside Athens.
latitude 38° 6'13.45"Β
longitude 23°13'9.66"Α

same price but not same quality... the "new" Dexters are made out of melted, pre-chewed, chewing-gummish steel!

seen a couple dozens in the return bin in my favorite Leroy-Merlin store in Marseille...


guess wich overstocked ones i did buy a few month back?

So... you 're always one step ahead!

i will, they're too nice to be hammered with even the lightest soft faced dead blow i own so they'll be getting a Thor 03-208 rawhide'n copper faced hammer just for them. should be a good matching set...

happy me!

I think you 're looking for an excuse to buy more tools.

here are a couple of older Leroy-Merlin branded ones along with the "Dexter" branded one.

all of them marked "Made in Germany":

no.

The 5.30 € i paid for is expensive compared to French Leroy Merlin?

in keeping with this post "small + biggie", let's continue with dead blow hammers from Wiha with the small one rescued from destruction for 30 eurocents last year:

now i had some impacting limitations while using a Facom 208.32 plasticky hammer with the Ko-Ken Attack Driver. not anymore! let me introduce Herr Ruckschlagfreihammer 50mm!!!

...and their middle brother

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thx - by the way have I mentioned that I am starting a new job? Whole new field for me -> cnc machining
And best of all the place is full with Garant stuff

My colleague we also need pictures from CNC machines!

 

[cosmik binturong]

See, now I feel like I need to move to Europe! You guys have the best access to all the good brands

except to most *US* brands. try to find some Wright or Nupla stuff over here...

But I think the US has lower prices though.. maybe. Snappy truck tomorrow! (Expecting to default on my school loans because of it )

except if you only buy truck brands at truck prices or, worse, on truck financing terms...

But really, I ordered a Stahlwille 3/4" off Amazon now (Got my refund from some other website that will not be named). Free 2 day shipping with Prime, the item is sold by Amazon.. so that should be like Thursday right? Nope! Pegged for the 16th.. I sure hope it shows up sooner I really want to just feel it. And use it of course!

Open Box 13 or 14?
you should do a thread of all your 3/4" wrenches like Monte ought to do for his 13mm collection!

By the way, those are some excellent T-handles you have there

best ever! those italians know how to do 'em right! 5mm is, maybe, 40 years old and has heavily worked on bicycles most of his life and the 14mm had a previous life in an agricultural machinery setting where it lost it's original T-handle before i got it...

if you want some good ones, either get the USAGs(also available as Facom-branded) or the Betas(there's a couple of them on amazon.com right now ) but don't get the Gedore ones: no good! no good!

And more Belzer from some of you, which I don't own any of Yet.

wanna write to Santa 'bout it?

 

[Miskin]

Miskin: I guess you have vacation...i miss 13mm wrenchtest

I requested from a colleague who is in workshop to make me the measurements to the wrenches sent to me by cosmik binturong.

 

[cosmik binturong]

No. I think HE got well overpriced Taiwanese crimpers sold as KNIPEX.

depends how much he paid for it...

half a year I was absent and wow sooo many posts to read :-o

hey! welcome back Phobo!

here some of my latest stuff:

my first 18V Bosch blue stuff:

the GBH 18V-Li is one light and enduring beast(was my first *modern* blue Bosch too), you won't be disappointed by it!
how's that big GDS though?

my first QR 1/2" stahlwille ratchet - came together with some sockets and so on

quite a collection of QR rats...

thx - by the way have I mentioned that I am starting a new job? Whole new field for me -> cnc machining
And best of all the place is full with Garant stuff

good news!

Don't say you got them at the local firefighter's fete.

nope. got'em from a raffle after a training session from a bike distributor(along with other stuff like screwdrivers and a pink'n flowery Giro helmet... )

So... you 're always one step ahead!

not really, i bought them so that the girls in the club that got SRAM kits without any tools would have quality tools in their race bags and wouldn't be stranded without tools at away races... anyway, thnaks SRAM!

I think you 're looking for an excuse to buy more tools.

not at all...

The 5.30 € i paid for is expensive compared to French Leroy Merlin?

first one was 7.35€ for me... then the others were marked down to 3€ so price was quite good regarding quality of those drivers...

...and their middle brother

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do you think i *need* a 35mm one too?

BTW, found an old Unitor tool catalog for big boat guys, full of Knipex, Heyco and mostly german stuff!

 

[bahcoswed]

Bahco torgue wrench adaptor, Gedore 3/8 ratchet, hazet 3/8 extension and elora ratchet! <a href="http://www.pictures.se/bilder/qu0Fv.jpg"><img src="http://www.pictures.se/bilder/qu0Fv.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>

Bahco 806 <a href="http://www.pictures.se/bilder/F8s2T.jpg"><img src="http://www.pictures.se/bilder/F8s2T.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>

Gedore 3/8 <a href="http://www.pictures.se/bilder/Vcjd.jpg"><img src="http://www.pictures.se/bilder/Vcjd.th.jpg" border="0" /></a>

 

[Trucky]

except if you only buy truck brands at truck prices or, worse, on truck financing terms...

Hey now, I only owe him $140

Open Box 13 or 14?
you should do a thread of all your 3/4" wrenches like Monte ought to do for his 13mm collection!

Well I'm pretty sure they don't make SAE sizes for the 14 series. Long pattern iirc. So it's open box 13A for me

 

[Monte]

Moammente

who´s that ?

no.

there's no need for any "compensation" for them 13mm wrenches and you know it!!!

now i know it !!

(beside we haven't finished with those 13mm combowrenches yet! you do have six(maybe even seven ) more waiting to make their Hamburg pilgrimage later... )

oh no........ more unnecessary compensations for you

Danke! they're pretty nice indeed, even for the Aldi-like price...

yeah for that price...! thx for the hint !

do you perchance know if there's a green Reca one too?

yes ...green and from Reca ...but not from Felo
Looks like it´s from USH

or was there a Felo-Reca ?

i still prefer the blue one!
that's because i didn't see it in blue AND 3/8"!
Santa's gonna be busy this year methinks...

but note "blue" on your wish list or Santa might bring you the red x-mas special edition

even for a taiwanese Knipex it's quite a good Knipex!

Herr Ruckschlagfreihammer 50mm!!!

btw. nice tools !

But I think the US has lower prices though.. maybe. Snappy truck tomorrow!

lower price and snappy truck.....?? how does that fit into one sentence ???

my first 18V Bosch blue stuff:

niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice impact wrench !!! how do you like it ????

Congrats on your new job.

You know this means pics right?

Bushing removal tool in action

 

[cosmik binturong]

Re: Tools fray??om the old world

who´s that ?

trackpad malfunction while typing. do i miss my Thinkpad keyboard...

now i know it !!
oh no........ more unnecessary compensations for you

hey! that's not funny... she's starting to say "how come you're getting *more* tools by post than you send away?"

yeah for that price...! thx for the hint !

you're welcome...
note though, that yours should have been quite cheaper since i asked you for a *pair* of bit sets. guess for whom the second one would have been for? (hint: that person does have a nice little Festool CXS )

yes ...green and from Reca ...but not from Felo
Looks like it´s from USH

or was there a Felo-Reca ?

yes there's one:

with a screwdriver handle attached!

but note "blue" one your wish list or Santa might bring you the red x-mas special edition

no no no! no red one!

Bushing removal tool in action

wooden-handled, ********, efficient and old school, all at the same time...

 

[madison069]

I was reading though all of the pages but when i realized it was 80)+ pages I might try my luck and see if anyone remembers this sockets while I look! LOL

I got this socket set and it looks really old but not much info on them that I can find.

Anyone recognize these sockets??