Nocturnal-G
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It's German for stable... but I believe Stahlwille uses it in the meaning of strong/robust/well built. Or maybe all of them...
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It's German for stable... but I believe Stahlwille uses it in the meaning of strong/robust/well built. Or maybe all of them...
garthg
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Swiss carpenter's tool box. He and his helper were working on the restroom facilities at a roadside rest stop overlooking Bodensee/Lake Constance. Everything in its place:
A personal toolbox like this is often the first project of your own, as an apprentice here in Denmark. Maybe the same in Switzerland? Looks shop made...
Yetihunter
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They're well recognized in the states as "craftsman"
pry bars
Wilde was making them for a (not sure how long) number of years, a fact that became more known on this forum (and no where else) thanks to attention brought to Harry J. Epstein's (retailer/distributor).
The Wilde branded pry bars certainly are the "same" in that regard.
They're also excellent tools.
Not sure who the oem is for Facom/Britool. However, Craftsman PryBars come from either PRC or Taiwan (one or the other) as of current. It's possible Stanley is sourcing from the same manufacturer; but I don't believe those handles are either trademarked nor exactly similar; so, uncertain.
If it was old stock, someone could make a wilde (pun) guess that it was from Wilde to SK to Facom; however that's speculation upon speculation!
Someone asked about Berner. Berner, like BTI, model themselves as a "goto" solutions company vs a manufacturer. Like Draper/CK/Craftsman, they collect a repertoire of tools and badge them under their private label. Unlike those companies; they are not primarily focused on selling tools.
I think they're systainers were the raddest looking (they moved on).
And their adverts are hilariously awful.
Obviously, I'm not providing all the info you could need, but to fill the gap...
Hi Guys,
I found this amazing thread while I was looking for Information on Belzer (now Bahco) Tools, it took me a while to go through all the pages, but its worth, i like Tools new and old and take good care of my stuff, so I looked in my Toolbox where I keep my old mixed up wrenches and found a couple of Hazet wrenches.
Does anyone know how old they are ?
I found this amazing thread while I was looking for Information on Belzer (now Bahco) Tools, it took me a while to go through all the pages, but its worth, i like Tools new and old and take good care of my stuff, so I looked in my Toolbox where I keep my old mixed up wrenches and found a couple of Hazet wrenches.
Does anyone know how old they are ?
Welcome to the thread!
That 450 DOE wrench has the "L" underline which dates it between 1951 and 1956. This is a standard Hazet tool which appears in their catalogs.
The B-15 is a toolkit wrench (BMW?). The lowercase "a" and straight underline logo dates it to some time between 1957 and 1964.
The industrial finish V-10 wrench (I think it's a VW toolkit wrench?) has a capital "A" logo, so it is from 1965 or later.
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Hazet wrench 10/11.Slim and very flexible
From what year is this series N450?
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From what year is this series N450?
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Cool stuff. Welcome to the forum.
Hazet wrench 10/11.Slim and very flexible
From what year is this series N450?
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Could we see a really clear closeup photo of the logo panel (without flash glare)?
Is there an elongated "U" shape underline?
Starrag
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Hi, everyone!
In addition to my simple hammers
I've got set of hammers for precise work - MicroPro. Also made by O.H.Industrial co., LTD in Japan.
Handles don't have any coating and this is not good at all. Without coating they will turn black very soon.
In addition to my simple hammers
I've got set of hammers for precise work - MicroPro. Also made by O.H.Industrial co., LTD in Japan.
Handles don't have any coating and this is not good at all. Without coating they will turn black very soon.
Look like they're actually made by Belzer.
Not sure they're still in business (Belzer brand anyway; can't find a site) due to all of the acquisitions (Sandvik, Bahco, SnapOn), but were excellent quality.
"Champion" brand tools: www.haarmann-rs.de
"RAL" color card:
some more Spax screws + bits
beautiful hammers
"RAL" color card:
some more Spax screws + bits
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I'am not sure if you saw this German Company on this thread before - "Champion"
Good Quality I think
That is one "cool set" of drivers!
Where did you get that at?
Thanks for posting and sharing.
Thank you all for welcoming me, here I got another one that looks old and it got no model markings at all - like 450 ?
Wow!
That's a very old wrench!
It's 1950 or earlier, almost surely prewar. I'm guessing 1930's.
You'll have to ask our Hazet expert, mac_intosh, he has access to a lot of old Hazet catalogs.
Luis Arturo
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One of my brothers bought this Black and Decker drill made in England in second use, it turned out very good and has served us well, unfortunately we pay once and returned without the power button ... although it still works .
greetings,
greetings,
mac_intosh
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Wow!
That's a very old wrench!
It's 1950 or earlier, almost surely prewar. I'm guessing 1930's.
You'll have to ask our Hazet expert, mac_intosh, he has access to a lot of old Hazet catalogs.
@Formel1 - Well, I also guess that it´s pre war, but I have no photo (yet) to prove it.
Because of "Made in Germany" I would say pre war (1933 - max. 1948) export-wrench.
Hi, everyone!
In addition to my simple hammers (...)
I've got set of hammers for precise work - MicroPro. Also made by O.H.Industrial co., LTD in Japan.
Handles don't have any coating and this is not good at all. Without coating they will turn black very soon.
Very nice hammers, Starrag! Japanese handles just seems to generally be "un-coated".. It´s the same with kitchen knives, the steel can be extremely expensive and handforged multi-layer steel, made by a guru, who spend his life perfecting that piece of tool - and the handles cheap un-coated bamboo-wood.
I just figure that the japanese tends to keep things more clean. They probably wear white cotton gloves and face-mask using those hammers.
I used to work at a mobile crane company, we had both german cranes like Demag and Liebherr, and japanese cranes like Hitachi and Kato. When they were in the shop for service, and I had the option to have a glance in the engine bay, i was always amazed how clean, the japanese cranes were. Like their gaskets are just more tight...
Has anybody tried these Heyco ratchets? I think they look like top notch stuff.
What's the black knob on top for, is it a spinner?
The translucent green hard handle screwdrivers look absolutely delicious!
Heyco looks like seriously nice stuff! I think I've been ignoring them for too long.
Heyco isn't imported to Taiwan. Does anyone know a good source online?
How does Heyco rank compared to Hazet, Stahlwille and Elora?
If anyone has firsthand experience, I'd love to hear about it.
The only Heyco I own is in my car's OE toolkit. But toolkit stuff doesn't really count.
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That is one "cool set" of drivers!
Where did you get that at?
Thanks for posting and sharing.
I got it at on a swap meet almost 20 Years ago, cleaned it up and put it in a drawer and almost forgot about it - and guess what -after finding this thread i got it out again and looked through all my old (and new) tools.
@Alfajuj
that old Hazet wrench feels even good when you grab it - smooth and the metal warms up in your hands - feels better than the new line.
Nocturnal-G
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Alfajuj... I own a set of Heyco external torx sockets and they are great!
Fitment is great and I've yet to break one... They are one of my most used socket sets.
The only negative I can think of is the finish and the knurling. It's purely cosmetic.
Fitment is great and I've yet to break one... They are one of my most used socket sets.
The only negative I can think of is the finish and the knurling. It's purely cosmetic.
Here is a picture from my basement wall:
and a little closer on the wrenches
most of my wrenches that i bought are 20 to 25 years old, i got the inch tools craftsman and metrinch when i was younger and had a american made car and later a bike to fix.
and a little closer on the wrenches
most of my wrenches that i bought are 20 to 25 years old, i got the inch tools craftsman and metrinch when i was younger and had a american made car and later a bike to fix.
Stuey
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Hi guys,
Christmas is coming soon, these 2 "little" tool boxes would be nice gifts…….I think so !
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Where did you see those? Such clean layout!
I own some old Heyco wrenches and a set of maxline wrenches and must say that although they are heavier than Hazet, they are at least as good. Especially the maxline wrenches. They are in my opinion the best wrenches that I have but they can't do the job in very tight places.
The Heyco Maxline wrenches are 1st class tools like Hazet, GEDORE, Stahlwille, Facom, a brilliant finish and haptic.
Sockets are in the same quality, but after many years of heavy using the crome is spalling, but it is only a cosmetic thing.
These boxes are offered as shown in the picture including the layouts and tools !
http://www.google.de/imgres?client=...p=25&ved=1t:429,r:3,s:0,i:91&biw=1279&bih=653
@Formel1
Nice wall !
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Here is a picture from my basement wall:
and a little closer on the wrenches
most of my wrenches that i bought are 20 to 25 years old, i got the inch tools craftsman and metrinch when i was younger and had a american made car and later a bike to fix.
Are those ratcheting box wrenches? Who made them? How do you like them?
Yes, they are from Wuerth - but i guess all rebranded, the nice and shiny ones are from Gearwrench i used em once and they got scratches realy fast when i remember the short instructions that came with - it said they are not made to put to much torque on the bolt (with the ratcheting part) - on the other Wuerth wrenches there is no company marking so i don't know from who they are made - but they are heavy and made for real working.
After that expirience with scratches on those highly chromed wrenches i rather stay with the normal finish, like on the Stahlwille wrench.
Reminds me of these old drivers i´ve got - no name, but "Made in Germany - Foreign - Import" so probably made for export. Funny thing is, that these were bought in Germany long time ago by a friends father (20-40 years ago).
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He gave them to me, paired with these blue Gedores:
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- so for some sizes, i can work on live electrics (the yellows are VDE-type), some sizes i have to cut the power
More old tools: Hacksaws and Junior Hacksaws...
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Junior saws: Spiralux (made in England), Viking (Denmark) and Eclipse (England). The Spiralux is my favourite...
View media item 33298Hacksaws: Two Viking saws (Denmark). Nice, but quite heavy...all steel! (and a litle part of wood in the handle).
View media item 33297Eclipse saws, same type 20T, but different age...partly aluminium, and lightweight.
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And made in Sweden, a "real" Bahco tool...or was it Sandvik?Very nice wall of tools, Formel1
Those Gedore drivers look just as nice!
Here is Heyco 75 year tool kit in Parat case. Very nice. I sell Heyco tools in Finland and I use to sell Stahlwille. My opinion is that quality is the same but Stahlwille is more expensive. Stahlwille also has bigger assortment but more tools for car repairing.
About Heyco Varicat ratchet, you can turn socket from that black knob and also give little friction if bolt is really loose so its easier to turn. You cant find samekind of knob from other brands. You should also check out Heyco Talenta, it has 1/2" drive but size is more like 3/8" ratchet.
About Heyco Varicat ratchet, you can turn socket from that black knob and also give little friction if bolt is really loose so its easier to turn. You cant find samekind of knob from other brands. You should also check out Heyco Talenta, it has 1/2" drive but size is more like 3/8" ratchet.
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Miskin
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Nice! Lok i quess is a local purchase, right? Please tell me how much did you pay for it to compare with my dealer.
Time for a Wittexplosion !
These drivers reminds me mine
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A Braun mixer from W. Germany. That's how they made things 30 years ago.
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Here is a picture from my basement wall:
and a little closer on the wrenches
most of my wrenches that i bought are 20 to 25 years old, i got the inch tools craftsman and metrinch when i was younger and had a american made car and later a bike to fix.
Welcome to the forum Formel1! This is how i would like my basement too. Right now it's a mess
Back to work so....
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Constant standing is a problem when you work with lathes, milling machines, etc.
35 € for a pair...
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Van Steele
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KTC oil filter wrench and a pair of "pee pee stopper".
After about a decade I found out there is a way of using a cup type wrench on my Crowns.
Sykes-Pickavant hub cleaner/grinder
Apparently a useless piece of kit and I'd also better ditch my drum brake wear gauge and disc thickness gauges if I see some corrosion on the hub faces and just install new discs or drums.
I guess I'm just a cheap bodge.
After about a decade I found out there is a way of using a cup type wrench on my Crowns.
Sykes-Pickavant hub cleaner/grinder
Apparently a useless piece of kit and I'd also better ditch my drum brake wear gauge and disc thickness gauges if I see some corrosion on the hub faces and just install new discs or drums.
I guess I'm just a cheap bodge.
LeGarage
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you can also find that from Ko-ken: 3110M-8 in 3/8" available from Rakuten with cheap and fast shipping or in the UK from uktools.com and in 1/2" too: *clicky!* or from Mattes-Werkzeuge with probably the best online prices in Europe for Ko-ken stuff...
(pic shamelessly made from stolen recycled electrons originating from this part of the internets: *clicky!*
Got it!
