Tools from the old world

[Crown Imperial]

They are handy to have for emergencies since many sizes take up very little space in a tool box but they **** for anything requiring precision. I also think they are kind of a bit dangerous with the blade wiggling on the base plate. Just not very trustworthy.
A good bi-metal hole saw will also do ok cutting sheet metal. You can forget that with those China ones.

 

[mattyrattypoo]

Just got these in today. I can not wait to try these out.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I747 using Tapatalk 2

 

[mr_jack]

... Found this barely used Eibenstock EHB 16/2.4 drill for a good price: ...

NICE!!!

 

[Monte]

Nice drill.
Need to change those chineese multi size hole saws for something more apt for the job. Those things are das krappo. They cut holes as round as my fist.

this hole saw from "Wolfcraft" is actually ok...I dunno how long they last though but i don´t have to do much with woodworking anyway and i don´t want to mess up my HSS Bi-Metal hole saws (cutting wood might dull them faster, heat etc... (??))
These seem to be good for wood:
http://wilpu.de/en/produkte/lochsaegen/hm-universal-lochsaege/

I also was using them, but it's also a pain in the *** to unmount and mount all the other sizes in the bracket. Now I have a set of fixed diameter sized hole saws.

yeah thats right very annoying to mount the right size.... or you store them individually so you only have to mount/unmount one...

Just got these in today. I can not wait to try these out.

awesome !!!!
the brushless impact seems to be especially nice...400NM and compact size !













Some more Bosch recip saw blades

 

[upgrading]

Some more Bosch recip saw blades

Have you gotten a chance to use them yet ?
If so, how good do they cut metal ?

 

[Monte]

Have you gotten a chance to use them yet ?
If so, how good do they cut metal ?

not yet, since i plan to get a corded recip saw because i think these blades only can utilize their full force with the right (powerful) tool. If nothing intervenes i might own a corded recip saw by the end of september.















...added another missing wood drill bit size in my collection: 13mm... from Alpen

 

[franzdom]

Today I got my first order from Jens, thank you sir!

Yesterday goodness from Amazon.de:

Family shots:

 

[Monte]

Today I got my first order from Jens, thank you sir!

Loctite from Ireland

 

[mr_jack]

Tools from the Old world in a toolbag, designed in the New world, but built in the Older world ...

 

[dutch79]

Family shots:

The finetooth 3/8" is nice, but why not also finetooth for the 1/2"? That's the short version 1/2" of 20cm right? I prefer the longer handle for more leverage when I use a 1/2". Otherwise I would have used 3/8" for the job.
Normal length is 25-27 cm, but I also have an old Hazet ratchet (pre-65), that is 30 cm. Recently came in handy when loosening a rusted bolt.

 

[Monte]

Tools from the Old world in a toolbag, designed in the New world, but built in the Older world ..

nice tools + bag












Some Bosch 10,8 Volt cordless jigsaw videos i made:

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[north]

*snip* I also have an old Hazet ratchet (pre-65), that is 30 cm. Recently came in handy when loosening a rusted bolt.

Does it have a flat handle style? Pics?

@mr_jack

 

[franzdom]

The finetooth 3/8" is nice, but why not also finetooth for the 1/2"? That's the short version 1/2" of 20cm right? I prefer the longer handle for more leverage when I use a 1/2". Otherwise I would have used 3/8" for the job.
Normal length is 25-27 cm, but I also have an old Hazet ratchet (pre-65), that is 30 cm. Recently came in handy when loosening a rusted bolt.

My just longer 1/2" is Bahco, and then I have Snap-On flex head in 18" & 24". I just thought since I like having compact 3/8" it would be nice to have a compact 1/2" also. The fine tooth I god just to check out, it's really nice.

 

[Dave455]

Today I got my first order from Jens, thank you sir!

I see you ordered the 'low offset' Stahlwille Corona wrenches!

These are my 'go to' metric wrenches! I've had a set for nearly 10 years and love 'em!

They feel really good and wear superbly well!

For some reason, I seem to like Stahlwille for ring/box end wrenches and, just of late, Hazet for combinations! (and of course Snap On for both, but they really are too good for some tasks)!

Of course, I don't tell the other tools I've got favourites...... !

 

[dutch79]

Does it have a flat handle style? Pics?

@mr_jack

See last pic here:
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showpost.php?p=4087743&postcount=19538
I also have the push-through type Hazet ratchet, so that 4 different selector types.

By the way, I now also have the complete set Hazet 645 double-joint-wrenches (8x9, 10x11, 12x13, 14x15 and 16x17:



Actually there were also 3 bigger sizes for sale in the past (17x19, 18x19 and 21x23), but these are the only 6 sizes currently for sale (in the 2014 catalog as separate items).

 

[Monte]

Foliatec brake caliper paint www.foliatec.com

 

[node105]

Some Sigma Power Ceramic waterstones arrived today, #1000, #6000, #13000 plus an Atoma diamond Plate #400.

The initial results with a well and truly *&^*^% old Marples 1" chisel; started out very rounded primary face (bevel), way out of square edge, far from flat back. Used the diamond plate to do the grunt work on the face and back, plus flatten the stones.

 

[Monte]

Elring Dirko HT sealant for valve covers etc. www.elring.de

 

[game]

Got these today.

Im travelling to Helsinki soon. Anybody know any good tool shops there?

Was thinking of getting the big Ironside Screwdriver set (17 Pieces + rack). Do you guys think its worth the money?

 

[dutch79]

What was the story again of Ironside? Rebranded tools? Which OEM? Produced in the EU, but also in China?
http://www.ironside.eu/

I would stick to the famous German brands personally, although not everything is still made in Germany nowadays.

 

[Champo]

Tools from the Old world in a toolbag, designed in the New world, but built in the Older world ...

Could you take a few more photos of your tools? it's interesting too see what other electricians are carrying, it gives away some good ideas

 

[dutch79]

Question: anyone know if there been a test/review of some major tool brands regarding to ratcheting wrench sets? Monte?

Most brands have these for sale nowadays: Hazet, Stahlwille, Gedore,..

 

[Crown Imperial]

I stole this from a post Monte did some time ago.
KT Pro (King Tony) won this test as far as ratcheting mechanism sturdiness.
May not be a brand many here will want.
Even if most ratcheting wrenches are made in Taiwan anyway.
Interesting to see them as stronger than the Hazet version which is probably made by Reverse Gear / High Five.

 

[Vidar Wulff]

Got these today.



Im travelling to Helsinki soon. Anybody know any good tool shops there?



Was thinking of getting the big Ironside Screwdriver set (17 Pieces + rack). Do you guys think its worth the money?

The Ironside screwdriver sets are made by Felo, so the quality is good.I have two of those sets,they were priced at 35€ when i bought them in here in norway.the Ironside plier is made by orbis i think?

 

[Vidar Wulff]

Some of my latest tool arrivals:

 

[dutch79]

I stole this from a post Monte did some time ago.
KT Pro (King Tony) won this test as far as ratcheting mechanism sturdiness.
May not be a brand many here will want.
Even if most ratcheting wrenches are made in Taiwan anyway.
Interesting to see them as stronger than the Hazet version which is probably made by Reverse Gear / High Five.

Ok. Unfortunately Stahlwille or Gedore were not included. But regarding sturdiness there doesn't seem to be much difference as far as I understand the values of that picture.

Probably go for a set of Hazet as all of my main tools are from. Need to save some money first.

 

[Crown Imperial]

Well, the difference between the KT and Hazet is about 20%. I wouldn't say that's unsubstantial. It's the only wrench where the ratcheting mechanism didn't break. The limit was the strength of the wrench itself.
At least that how I interpret the results.

 

[dutch79]

The numbers are not Nm's I guess so pretty difficult to interpret anyway.

The test of Oldtimermarkt where 18 different brands of non-ratcheting 13mm combination wrenches were tested, the Hazet was the strongest of all

Included were brands like Gedore, Stahlwille, Snap On, Facom,...

http://wiesemann.eu/_UPLOAD/files/Oldtimermarkt.pdf

 

[Monte]

Question: anyone know if there been a test/review of some major tool brands regarding to ratcheting wrench sets? Monte?

see the post above

Ok. Unfortunately Stahlwille or Gedore were not included. But regarding sturdiness there doesn't seem to be much difference as far as I understand the values of that picture.

Probably go for a set of Hazet as all of my main tools are from. Need to save some money first.

the DIN norm for a 14mm combination wrench is 128NM so the test shows that they are about twice as strong. A 14mm screw head means M8 thread i think. A M8 screw in grade 12.9 is usually tightened to 42 NM.

The numbers are not Nm's I guess so pretty difficult to interpret anyway.

multiplied by 10 and you have about the NM rating.

 

[Monte]

some Fein Multimaster videos i made

...removing underbody coating:
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...scraping off adhesive tape:
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...sanding...
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and sawing...:
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[node105]

Gedore Whitworth's arrived today, to join the lone 3/8"W I had. Been doing a bit of older machinery lately, hence the need for the combo's to add to a set of whitworth sockets.

Curiously each size has a unique letter code: e.g. UB, SC, VI...

The finish is not particularly good, certainly not on par with Hazet or Stahlwille.
Note the inconsistent end grinding/polish.

Someone obviously slipped when grinding the centre rib

And the plating hasn't held up too well for brand new stock either.

Stamped 'Germany', but I am suspicious

 

[Alfajuj]

Yeah,
I've never been impressed with the finish on Gedore wrenches either. Don't be suspicious, if they're stamped Germany, then they really are made in Germany.

I remember seeing images of the Gedore 1B wrenches and thinking that they are such a cool design with the flutes off the open end. Like old Williams or Belzer. But when I actually got some, I felt somehow let down by the finish when you see them "in-person".
They're meant as a heavy duty wrench and they have the mother of all box ends with loads of offset. So they don't fit in tight places so well. They're more of an industrial wrench rather than an auto repair type wrench. That role is filled by the Gedore No.7 series.
Gedores aren't such a joy to look at like Hazet.
So they're not the belle of the ball, but don't worry, the steel is excellent and they will be good wrenches for you. A little Autosol or Simichrome and some elbow grease and you're on your way.

Anyway, with Whitworth nowadays you're choices are getting very limited.

 

[Blöckw@rt]

Connex branded pliers, made by Orbis/Will.

Very nice quality.

 

[keymaster]

FACOM 187.18

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[Dave455]

Gedore Whitworth's arrived today, to join the lone 3/8"W I had. Been doing a bit of older machinery lately, hence the need for the combo's to add to a set of whitworth sockets.

Curiously each size has a unique letter code: e.g. UB, SC, VI...

The finish is not particularly good, certainly not on par with Hazet or Stahlwille.
Note the inconsistent end grinding/polish.

Someone obviously slipped when grinding the centre rib

And the plating hasn't held up too well for brand new stock either.

Stamped 'Germany', but I am suspicious

Gedore offer two styles of combination wrench. One style (No.7 I think) comes in a 'matte' finish, which is o.k. but they don't offer Whitworth in this style!

The only style they do offer Whitworth in (No.1?), has a fairly rough finish (what would be called 'industrial' in the U.K.) which I don't like much either! To be fair, they are tough, and work just fine, but they don't give much pleasure in use!

Wrench wise, you would probably be much better served by King **** or Elora! The former are British made, the latter German, but both have a much better finish than the Gedore. Snap On still offer their superb wrenches in Whitworth too, and I reckon it's worth acquiring a couple while you can! Sadly, none of these firms offer long pattern combination wrenches!

If you havn't discovered them already, KoKen make a huge range of sockets, at seriously reasonable prices!

Worth keeping an eye on fleabay U.K. as decent a Whit tools come up often, and don't always go for much money!

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

Stahlwille adaptors

Has anyone used these adaptors from Stahlwille?
They are nearly half the size of standard ones.
I am suspicious if they hold up as well as the standard ones.

 

[Monte]

The finish is not particularly good, certainly not on par with Hazet or Stahlwille.
Note the inconsistent end grinding/polish.

ahh the Gedore "Farmers Choice®" finish
Their tools are not made for the eye of a DIY user
The rust is a bit "unfavorable" though....Can you wipe it off or scrape it off with your finger nail ? (looks like surface rust and not really deep ?)

Has anyone used these adaptors from Stahlwille?
They are nearly half the size of standard ones.
I am suspicious if they hold up as well as the standard ones.

i have them from "Beta" but never really used them .
But i don´t see why they should break. IIRC they´re sourced from an american company.













Already posted a set a while ago but don´t know where they are now so i got a new set : Schwalbe bicycle tire levers wwww.schwalbe.com

 

[dutch79]

I finished my Hazet socket collection (1/4" and 3/8") with this '70s? 1/2" set (10-32mm):





The question is what set it is. Because:
The sockets itself are 12-point 900Z (Zwolfkant) from after '65. Also the 'knee joint'-adapter and short extension bar are from after '65.
But the inlay says "900" (I guess it's that same inlay as the 900Z-set) and the other parts are pre-'65: the long extension bar, "breaker-bar" and "S-bent bar" (what's the proper name in English... ). The ratchet that was in there was a Gedore (1993u-10T) that probably will be sold:
http://www.e-narzedziownia.pl/envir...oductGfx_3eeceb437954ba5e0e7d23fa943ece4a.jpg
..so I tried my oldest (pre-'65) Hazet 916 ratchet and that one fitted the best.

The case has logo's from after '65, so the pre-'65 items don't belong there..?

Then the slotted screwdriver-socket (980-13) is one from after '65 and I guess another one is missing, so have to find out which item should've been there.

It's a bit of a mix, but not heavily used it seems, (but full metal!) so will be a pleasure to work with for a long time

edit1: I found out that the 1 screwdriver socket is probably correct. Most variations of the 900-series were equiped with only 1 slotted bit.
edit2: I also found out that probably the correct ratchet is 916S(P) from around the 70's (with a round full metal or plastic handle).

 

[Alfajuj]

Nice score!
Here's a page from the 1969 catalog
Your set should be 900Z but the dealers often put the sets together themselves with loose sockets trays and cases. So they probably just used a 900 tray when they should have uses a 900z. So it was probably like that from new

 

[franzdom]

Re: Stahlwille adaptors

Has anyone used these adaptors from Stahlwille?
They are nearly half the size of standard ones.
I am suspicious if they hold up as well as the standard ones.

I use a Taiwan equivalent impact grade and pound the heck out of them. I actually think they are stronger since the std anvil is inside them, there isn't twisting going on.