Tools from the old world

[maico]

One thing I've noticed over the years is you can often spot a Chinese made tool from the case it's in. The plastic is different from that produced in Europe. Perhaps because it is not made to the same environmental standards.
The cheaper grades often used are obviously pretty obvious too.

Has anyone got one of these new Stahlwille all plastic socket cases, are they any good ?

 

[Tepid87]

I just had a look at the http://witte-werkzeuge.de/ website and they have updated the designs of their screwdrivers.

And there are Witte pliers on the way. @Monte did you see them at the hardware fair? I am curious, are they made inhouse or rebranded versions?

 

[marlinspike]

One thing I've noticed over the years is you can often spot a Chinese made tool from the case it's in. The plastic is different from that produced in Europe. Perhaps because it is not made to the same environmental standards.
The cheaper grades often used are obviously pretty obvious too.

Has anyone got one of these new Stahlwille all plastic socket cases, are they any good ?

Well, I just got a set in that has some kind of interim case - it's plastic, but has no green on the outside and no etching in the foam in the top half. It's very bad. Sad, because the tools are so nice. I disagree with the early comment posted here that the 512 QR N is not nice. I have this and the Gedore U-20 and it seems just as nice to me, and it holds the sockets with less wiggle.

 

[upgrading]

Send some of the blue & black over here pronto !

 

[Precivilization]

Sorry for the too many pictures. Thanks to all for the input and advice .


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[target]

Nice choice Tepid87, maybe the best quality<>price ratio is Toptul.

This is my purchase from today... i'm addicted to ATHLET

Reversible Athlet screwdriver very handy

 

[48548]

Looks interesting! I'm also curious about the quality?

Cheers,
Jasper

I have the toptul got it from mike a long time ago and it works great.

 

[Monte]

And there are Witte pliers on the way. @Monte did you see them at the hardware fair? I am curious, are they made inhouse or rebranded versions?

yes
They appear to be made by Orbis

Sorry for the too many pictures. Thanks to all for the input and advice .

nice vice ! Made by FZA.











some pics of the international hardware fair in cologne/Germany:

Tools in action @ the Tyrolit booth:

Fisch tools from Austria:

BDS magnetic core drills:

Proxxon tools

Femi saws

Dinzl Rollbox and storage equipment made in Germany

Tools from Japan

Triton power tools

Glob tube notcher from Poland

Witte

Paffrath wad punches from Germany

Scantool belt grinder/tube notcher from Denmark

GYS welders from France

Beveltools metal bevelling tools from Holland (electric motors made by Suhner in Germany)

ATA air tools from Ireland

Stayer power tools

Eisenblätter power tools and abrasives

 

[Monte]

some more pics....:

Hazet

the components of a tool box:

long-term loading torque test stand:

How the Hazet Heavy Duty XL wrenches are made...:

from start....:

....to finish:

Eibenstock core drilling tools

Kern diamond core drilling machine

uber-large Engineer pliers

Rothenberger pipe tools

Tanos Systainers

SIT brushes made in Italy

Famag forstner and wood drill bits

 

[48548]

Nice, I used up all of my mobile data in one post!!!! But I want to try some of the tools... I still want a hazet ratchet just to own one.

 

[Tepid87]

Nice choice Tepid87, maybe the best quality<>price ratio is Toptul.

Yes, I agree with that, I don't think you can get better value for your money. I am very impressed by the quality of the things I ordered. And the prices are really cheap. For instance the deep 1/4" socketset of 13 pieces costs only 9 euros. Usually I am not that into tools from Taiwan, but nowadays a lot of brands like Facom let you pay European manafactured prices for Asian made tools. And I am not gonna do that. So for payback I bought Asian stuff

 

[Precivilization]

nice vice ! Made by FZA.

Thanks Monte for the info. Are fza any good?

Thanks for sharing the photos, very interesting I must say!

 

[Monte]

Nice, I used up all of my mobile data in one post!!!! But I want to try some of the tools... I still want a hazet ratchet just to own one.

some more stuff for your phone:

Thanks Monte for the info. Are fza any good?

yes, FZA vices are good.





more pics from the fair:

Shinwa measuring tools

Eight tools from Japan

japanese cutting guides and saws

Rotabroach core drill

Sjöbergs work benches made in Sweden

Kress power tools from Germany

new die grinders with oversized spindle and balanced nut for 3x better runout

long neck grinder with removeable long neck...

Kanca vices

Grip-On locking pliers

Sola measuring tools from Austria

Klein tools

USAG tools

Martor knives

Scangrip work lights

 

[mr_jack]

...
more pics from the fair:


Klein tools

Very nice.
But they tend to get a bit expensive, when they come on our side of the Atlantic.

 

[upgrading]

Excellent pics.
Thanks.

Dinzl Rollbox and storage equipment made in Germany

Nice rolling box. Only the Chinese clone has been available over here for about a year or more and that might be unavailable now.
I hope that makes it over here.

Witte

Must have blue and black Witte !
When will they offer that ?

 

[Superbec]

great, now i'll feel empty inside till I buy a new Dinzl rollbox

and the painted vises are awsomeeeeee

 

[hautpot]

Everytime I finish buy tools, Monte has to post his adventures at toolshows.

 

[Monte]

Very nice.
But they tend to get a bit expensive, when they come on our side of the Atlantic.

maybe they will be cheaper once they find adistributor here...

Excellent pics.
Thanks.
Nice rolling box. Only the Chinese clone has been available over here for about a year or more and that might be unavailable now.
I hope that makes it over here.

where is this made ?
http://www.whitesidemfg.com/creeper items/rollbox.htm
edit: it seems it´s chinese...

Must have blue and black Witte !
When will they offer that ?

i guess they will be entering the market in a few weeks after the exhibition.

great, now i'll feel empty inside till I buy a new Dinzl rollbox
and the painted vises are awsomeeeeee

Everytime I finish buy tools, Monte has to post his adventures at toolshows.

lol Sorry










some more pics:

Bernstein tools

Dolex - Made in France

Pressmaster - Made in Sweden

Zenten - Made in Spain

OMAT saws Made in Italy

Ideal clamps Made in Germany

HaFu tools made in Germany

Norbar torque tools UK

Sora screwdrivers from Germany

Malco from the USA

Thor hammer UK

Ochsenkopf from Germany

Cox caulk guns from the UK

Sortimo tool boxes

Halder hammers

Haunstetter saw factory Germany

Stubai from Austria

 

[maico]

Monte, I noticed you had a picture of the Halder stand. Does anybody in Germany actually buy their splitting mauls ? It's a very different design to anything else on the market.

http://www.halder.com/gb/content/search?searchbutton=Search&SearchText=maul

 

[marlinspike]

In this video, I ramble too much and don't hit all the points I intended to hit. Maybe I should script these, or at least write down bullets...
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[marlinspike]

Ochsenkopf from Germany

I love my Ochsenkopf Big Ox splitting maul - I can even split Black Gum (http://my.woodmagazine.com/materials-guide/lumber/wood-species-1/black-gum/) with it - though I won't say it does it easily, it's amazing it does it at all.

 

[Bhae]

@Monte

Thanks for your pics.

Can i put your pics in my blog?

 

[rice rocket]

In this video, I ramble too much and don't hit all the points I intended to hit. Maybe I should script these, or at least write down bullets...
<iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/eqsUiwY7kD4" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

You're allow to pause and cobble multiple shots together.

 

[BK13]

@ Monte: one of these days, when I get rich (and learn to speak German) I'm going to go to this show. Until then, thanks for the virtual tour.

 

[Superbec]

@ Monte: one of these days, when I get rich (and learn to speak German) I'm going to go to this show. Until then, thanks for the virtual tour.

just get rich I'll translate for you

p.s. guess I have time to learn

 

[BK13]

just get rich I'll translate for you



p.s. guess I have time to learn

Cool, man, be a fun trip with a fellow tool junkie!


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[maico]

I love my Ochsenkopf Big Ox splitting maul - I can even split Black Gum (http://my.woodmagazine.com/materials-guide/lumber/wood-species-1/black-gum/) with it - though I won't say it does it easily, it's amazing it does it at all.

Here's mine with a Gransfors Bruks

and an axe

Thanx for taking the time to do that socket set video.

I have both 3/8 and 1/2" locking Stahlwille extensions and there is indeed quite a bit of play which I think is deliberate.

The small socket is tight on the ratchet but lose on the end of the extensions. It can't come off of course because of the lock.

 

[nanofrog]

Bernstein tools

Pressmaster - Made in Sweden

Spanfixx vises from Bernstein and Pressmaster crimpers & stripping tools... Now we're talking!

 

[Monte]

Monte, I noticed you had a picture of the Halder stand. Does anybody in Germany actually buy their splitting mauls ? It's a very different design to anything else on the market.

http://www.halder.com/gb/content/search?searchbutton=Search&SearchText=maul

you can buy it at amazon and ebay and other stores...even in japan...but i can´t tell you IF someone is actually buying it It seems a good idea because you only need one tool because you can strike the wedge with the soft face side of the axe...personally i guess i would get the Big Ox and a plastic/aluminium wedge or a steel one with a soft face.

I love my Ochsenkopf Big Ox splitting maul - I can even split Black Gum (http://my.woodmagazine.com/materials-guide/lumber/wood-species-1/black-gum/) with it - though I won't say it does it easily, it's amazing it does it at all.

Just looked...luckily we don´t have these trees over here...america and asia only it seems

@Monte
Thanks for your pics.
Can i put your pics in my blog?

you´re welcome.
Sure you can

@ Monte: one of these days, when I get rich (and learn to speak German) I'm going to go to this show. Until then, thanks for the virtual tour.

you have 2 years... next fair is in march 2018...
But you don´t have to learn german since most of the people there (can) speak english since there are buyers and sellers from all over the world. And you have enough time to save the 1000 bucks for the flight ticket

Spanfixx vises from Bernstein and Pressmaster crimpers & stripping tools... Now we're talking!

some more pics of the hardware fair:

Beta tools

new "RSC 55" workshop furniture:

Forza pullers made in Spain

Racodon punches from France

Kirschen wood chisels

Weicon wire strippers

BMI measuring tools

Maestri staplers and glue guns from Italy

Irega adjustable wrenches with slim jaws

Felo sets with metal racks

Heyco

Momento impact tools made in Sweden

 

[garfieldzzz]

@Monte: what size socket is this thing? Its huge. The biggest i found in the KoKen catalouge was a 225,45mm (8-7/8")one with 3-1/2" drive.

 

[Monte]

@Monte: what size socket is this thing? Its huge. The biggest i found in the KoKen catalouge was a 275mm one with 2-1/2" drive.

Sorry i don´t know. But i think it was larger. IIRC 2 years ago they had a even larger socket on display. They are not forged, but machined on a lathe.












some more pics:

Vallorbe files

Koken

Rohrlux german made work lights

Wiha

new 26-in-1 screwdriver (w/ double sided bits)

supposed to be Berger pruners and loppers

Banko air tools from Croatia

Narex tools from the czech republic

York vices from the czech republic

Stahlwille

Bessey/Erdi

the new shears with sintered metal bearing for longer lifetime (made in Taiwan )

 

[upgrading]

Good stuff again.

That Heyco green looks nice.
Probably wont get over here.

How many square ft in this convention center ?

 

[maico]

I've heard Monte got so over-excited when confronted with that wall of Stahlwille, he started running around like a headless chicken.
Security threw him out and confiscated his camera thinking he was involved in industrial espionage.....

The ratchet bottom left looks like it might be the new 80 teeth 1/2" 512 QR N FOD ?

 

[jensputzier]

They haven't. The metal cases and inserts are all listed in the catalogue.

On the Eisenwarenmesse they presented the new catalog and stated that they only have the new style cases. I will look into the printed catalogs.

 

[jensputzier]

The ratchet bottom left looks like it might be the new 80 teeth 1/2" 512 QR N FOD ?

You're right.

 

[Tepid87]

new "RSC 55" workshop furniture:

This looks so nice, and it seems very thought through. Built in air hose reels, power outlets, dust bin, etc. someday maybe or instead of a kitchen

Anyone who has recommendations on a manual sealant gun? Made in Europe? Or Japan, is Tajima good? I like their knives and measuring tapes.
I am using a cheap flimsy one now, which requires a lot hand power. I am looking for something to upgrade.

 

[Blöckw@rt]

Toptul (heavy duty) combo wrenches Super-Torque and Super-Torque Dynamic Series.

Direct comparable to the Facom 440's, for 1/4 of the price !

 

[DSM_PWR]

My first PB Swiss Tools..

 

[Monte]

Good stuff again.

That Heyco green looks nice.
Probably wont get over here.

Maybe they can help you:
http://www.samstagsales.com/heyco.htm

How many square ft in this convention center ?

144200 m² = 1552155 sq.ft

I've heard Monte got so over-excited when confronted with that wall of Stahlwille, he started running around like a headless chicken.
Security threw him out and confiscated his camera thinking he was involved in industrial espionage.....

Did you see the evening news too ? Yeah but luckily i could escape and rescue some of the pics

The ratchet bottom left looks like it might be the new 80 teeth 1/2" 512 QR N FOD ?

yes. They have some nice ratchet deals now:

This looks so nice, and it seems very thought through. Built in air hose reels, power outlets, dust bin, etc. someday maybe or instead of a kitchen.

some hotplates on top of the work bench...So you are happy and wifey too

Anyone who has recommendations on a manual sealant gun? Made in Europe? Or Japan, is Tajima good? I like their knives and measuring tapes.
I am using a cheap flimsy one now, which requires a lot hand power. I am looking for something to upgrade.

www.pccox.co.uk Made in England








some more pics....:

VBW pliers

Alarm bolt cutters

Gedore

new mini sets: bit sets, nut setter sets, socket sets...

difficult to see...: new features for the go-through ratchet. A 1/2" square drive and a bit holder.

New circlip pliers with tips made of bearing steel and new crimpers:

Sortimo WorkMo compatible:

new torque wrenches:

my new love: (the tool box on the right )

Baudat cable tools made in Germany

Jokari wire/cable strippers

Stabila levels

King Tony tools

Telwin welders made in Italy

Kabo tools

Lavor vacuums + pressure washers from Italy

Athlet hand tools from Germany

Beargrip rivet guns made in Slovakia

Edma building tools made in France

Vessel tools from Japan

 

[DSM_PWR]

WHERE did you obtain those gold drivers?? Must have!

I said the same thing when I saw them.

I do not believe PB Swiss makes them anymore.. they did about five years ago. Luckily, Monte found a vendor that still had some in stock.

here´s a set:
http://www.onlyqualitytools.com/catalog/PB_Swiss_Tools/Multicraft_Screwdrivers.html