Tools from the old world

[Bielio]

It feels nice, but the head is massive compared to a normal 1/2 ratchet head.

cheers, Jasper

I like the old school looking Hazet Ratchet.
Why change this monster if it's been working all these years.

 

[Monte]

Monte,
Those look amazing.

you´re right

Nice Monte, how do they compare to say Lowe loppers?

Sorry i only worked with Felco, Berger and noname so far...
The Lowe pruning shears i own are fantastic though. I mainly bought the Berger loppers because of the good price and because Stihl sells them too so they can´t be bad 80cm (?) Loewe anvil loppers are on the wishlist though

Nice loppers Monte, did not know them.
We use Castellari http://www.castellarisrl.com/products/branch-cutters from Italy, Hickok from USA and ARS http://www.ars-edge.co.jp/world/02products/product_11lopping.html from Japan.

Never heard of Castellari or Hickok...but since we talk about exotic loppers/pruners brands there are also Vesco and Betakut from Italy as well as Barnel from the US.

Talking about gardening tools, we have a very good quality brand from the Netherlands DeWit https://www.dewit.eu. There are not many toolmanafacturers left here, but they still make some traditional quality tools.

and Sneeboer too...
From Germany: Krumpholz and SHW

In Croatia, the most common choice for loppers are Bahco, Kuker and Lowe.

Over here it´s Gardena, Wolf and Fiskars (DIY stores) or Stihl, Lowe, Berger, ARS, Felco (professional store). Sometimes you´ll also find DIY brands in pro stores.

Berger loppers how they compare with Wolf Garten?

Sorry i only worked with Felco, Berger and noname so far...

.

very nice haul !
btw. Do you have some more pics of your tool wall ?

A few of my garden tools....mostly Wolf and Gardena

nice collection
















Bought this "Florica" (made by Al-Ko) shredder today for 20.- bucks...it works (now)

 

[rice rocket]

I like the old school looking Hazet Ratchet.
Why change this monster if it's been working all these years.

Because it's so smooth.

It's smoother than all my Snap-On Dual80s (even smoother than the 1/4"), but feels like it can hold a ton of torque as well. My current favorite ratchet for sure.

 

[ticci]

Can you guys recommend me a 1-2 ton portable hydraulic jack that can be used for changing flat tires on a regular car when on the road?
I need a brand name that can be easily purchased in the EU; those Chinese hydraulic jacks found in auto parts stores and supermarkets are pure junk!

There isn't one. I'm gone through the internet many times, all aluminium jack I can find seem to be made in China. I'm planning to keep cheap chinese one in the back of my car, and purchase a good quality trolley jack for garage use. For those there are 3 options in Europe: Ac, Mega and Compac. There is also Weber and Rehobot (ex-Nike), but those seem to be hard to find - even prices.

Currently there is a sale going on of dk20q for 350€, thinking should I bite the hook...

Other way could be finding an old German/Danish made jack and rebuilding it (they have made portable version also) but i haven't been lucky on that.

 

[chrissalas1]

Here in Greece many garages use omcn.They are very good quality and can be found in reasonable prices.Take a look at them.

 

[Blöckw@rt]

 

[sljeme345]

A few of my garden tools....mostly Wolf and Gardena

Nice collection of gardetn tools

Some compare Wolf Garten with Gardena? I'm interested for secateurs and loppers.

 

[Monte]

small garden rake from Wolf

 

[Carves]

A while back I made provisions for buying an old vise from someone on the Norwegian equivalent of Craigslist. When getting there to pick it up he had "some" other things of interest as well.
Long story short I ended up buying quite a lot but left even more behind. Before leaving I made him promise to me that he would not throw the rest away but rather let me know and see if we could come to some sort of agreement over the rest.
We did, and I ended up with a second lot of tools. This is how the back of my car looked like:

Good selection of user tools there.

Like your tool board too .. ... but how do you find the correct spanner for a job ? ... when you hang all the same sizes, on the one hook,

... instead of having them in little individual racks everywhere,
... and sorted by, brand, shininess and country of manufacture ..

..

 

[Henning]

Good selection of user tools there.

Like your tool board too .. ... but how do you find the correct spanner for a job ? ... when you hang all the same sizes, on the one hook,

... instead of having them in little individual racks everywhere,
... and sorted by, brand, shininess and country of manufacture ..

..

If I'd had more space they would most definitely have been sorted on individual racks by shininess [emoji1][emoji15][emoji1303]

I try my very hardest not to become a collector, but I do realize I'm slowly but surely are accumulating tools which I have very little use for but which I am unable to sell... [emoji848]




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[ticci]

Here in Greece many garages use omcn.They are very good quality and can be found in reasonable prices.Take a look at them.

Never even heard about them, but their stuff looks good! They have also a portable solution that marcone was searching!

http://www.werkzeugeonline.eu/omcn-...blasskontrolle-tragfaehigkeit-800-kg-pkw.html

 

[Krokodil]

OMCN is very nice. When I bought I had to decide between OMCN and Mega. Went for Mega.

 

[Tooling Around]

it´s the original soft face hammer with replaceable heads invented in 1938 . It´s very good. I have 2 of them and a Wiha which is good too.

Do the Simplex 40mm and Wiha 40mm hammers use the same type of replacement heads and could they be used with wood chisels or would they be too heavy?

 

[Monte]

Do the Simplex 40mm and Wiha 40mm hammers use the same type of replacement heads and could they be used with wood chisels or would they be too heavy?

The heads are different. I would purchase the matching heads...

It seems the most common hammer types for wood chisels are like these:
http://www.kirschen.de/en/Accessories_Mallets_p25.html
You could use the soft face hammers too of course.














Wolf hand grubber

 

[voodooaw]

Sorry I forgot the Larsson made in Sweden ones with box joint construction[emoji4]

What about these?

Thanks again

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I don't have Larsson pliers with box joint, but I have a lap joint one made for Excelta by Larsson. It is basically a Larsson 9140 with blue handles. The quality is superb. It is almost identical to the Lindstrom 80 series.

 

[voodooaw]

Ideal-tek's cutters are good as well as I understand it (they make the EX line for Lindstrom), as are their tweezers (they're also the ODM for Lindstrom's tweezers). FWIW, I'm well acquainted with their tweezers.

Do note that Ideal-tek's cutters & pliers don't use box joints, so I'm not sure if it was something Larsson developed but hadn't released, or if it was their own design (if the latter is the case, I can't figure on why they'd want to buy Larsson ).

I have five Ideal-tek pliers and cutters, four made in Switzerland (Lindstrom EX series) and one made in Italy (Lindstrom EI series). I don't think the Swiss made ones are as good as Lindstrom RX or Erem. They have a poor finish. Some of them have a larger jaw than the other side that can be easily seen. Here are some pictures of its finish.

The Italian one have a much better finish than the Swiss ones but I did not take any picture. It is really good considering the Italian ones are much cheaper than Erem and Lindstrom RX.

 

[nanofrog]

I don't have Larsson pliers with box joint, but I have a lap joint one made for Excelta by Larsson.

Never saw a Larsson with a screw + rivet nut type lap joint in their literature, but I suspect that would have been a big part of Ideal-tek's purchase of Larsson.

Sad another good company got swallowed up.

The quality is superb. It is almost identical to the Lindstrom 80 series.

This is what I always heard (when Lindstrom was still Swedish made). Compared to the current Lindstrom production from Spain, I'd bet money that your Larsson's would kick them to the curb.

I have five Ideal-tek pliers and cutters, four made in Switzerland (Lindstrom EX series) and one made in Italy (Lindstrom EI series). I don't think the Swiss made ones are as good as Lindstrom RX or Erem. They have a poor finish.

Those are rough looking. FWIW, those I've seen were much better finished.

How old are yours?
Wondering if they're early production, and the fit & finish were improved later on.

And aside from the finish issues, how well do they perform?

The Italian one have a much better finish than the Swiss ones but I did not take any picture. It is really good considering the Italian ones are much cheaper than Erem and Lindstrom RX.

I didn't know they had a line made in Italy.

 

[losvre]

Never saw a Larsson with a screw + rivet nut type lap joint in their literature, but I suspect that would have been a big part of Ideal-tek's purchase of Larsson.

Sad another good company got swallowed up.


This is what I always heard (when Lindstrom was still Swedish made). Compared to the current Lindstrom production from Spain, I'd bet money that your Larsson's would kick them to the curb.


Those are rough looking. FWIW, those I've seen were much better finished.

How old are yours?
Wondering if they're early production, and the fit & finish were improved later on.

And aside from the finish issues, how well do they perform?


I didn't know they had a line made in Italy.

I just got the Lindstrom 8140 with screw rivet, made in Sweden, small and sharp!

Quality and finish looks superb!

See how it goes when I do some proper work with them.

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[hautpot]

Back from my trip! Not enough time to go visit the factories here unfortunately .

I love the uniqueness of the Wiha Inkras. Never have I seen a blue coated bit other than PB Swiss. The Witte stainless bits are super lovely. I just estimated all of my bits and I have over 500! Hmmm... maybe I should start a screwdriver bit thread since I love them like jewelry.

 

[voodooaw]

Those are rough looking. FWIW, those I've seen were much better finished.

How old are yours?
Wondering if they're early production, and the fit & finish were improved later on.

And aside from the finish issues, how well do they perform?


I didn't know they had a line made in Italy.

They are less than two year old since they are from the ergo-tek line that was introduced in late 2014. The oval head cutters are better than the tapered and relieved one in the photo, but generally speaking they don't match the quality of Erem and Lindstrom RX. I don't really have much chance to use them yet, for I have bought way too many precision pliers.

 

[Monte]

Krumpholz flower trowel

 

[nanofrog]

I just got the Lindstrom 8140 with screw rivet, made in Sweden, small and sharp!

Quality and finish looks superb!

I suspect you got lucky then.

I've a pair of 8140 Rx, but mine are made in Spain (same joint construction). It works well enough, but it takes more force to finish the cut than I'm accustomed to for that size of head. And as a result, the grips flex more (enough that I'm concerned I'd break them even within their rated cutting capacity). Fit and finish are decent, but not the best I own.

FWIW, Tronex is the best I own all around (mine are rebranded as Excelta). The fit & finish is amazing (better than Erem or Lindstrom), the cutting performance is top notch (Erem is right there as well), and the ergonomics work best for me as well. Please note I have the longer 7xxx models rather than the shorter 5xxx versions (I'm 6'-4").

In the case of the Erem's, I chose the Ergosense grips rather than the foam, which slip around in my hands more than I'd like.

I'll see about taking some photos a bit later.

They are less than two year old since they are from the ergo-tek line that was introduced in late 2014. The oval head cutters are better than the tapered and relieved one in the photo, but generally speaking they don't match the quality of Erem and Lindstrom RX. I don't really have much chance to use them yet, for I have bought way too many precision pliers.

How well do they cut though?

I get what you mean with so many, as I've 12 cutters of various sizes & shapes & 6 pliers. Takes 2 cigar boxes to store them.

 

[losvre]

I suspect you got lucky then. [emoji481]

I've a pair of 8140 Rx, but mine are made in Spain (same joint construction). It works well enough, but it takes more force to finish the cut than I'm accustomed to for that size of head. And as a result, the grips flex more (enough that I'm concerned I'd break them even within their rated cutting capacity). Fit and finish are decent, but not the best I own.

FWIW, Tronex is the best I own all around (mine are rebranded as Excelta). The fit & finish is amazing (better than Erem or Lindstrom), the cutting performance is top notch (Erem is right there as well), and the ergonomics work best for me as well. Please note I have the longer 7xxx models rather than the shorter 5xxx versions (I'm 6'-4").

In the case of the Erem's, I chose the Ergosense grips rather than the foam, which slip around in my hands more than I'd like.

I'll see about taking some photos a bit later.


How well do they cut though?

I get what you mean with so many, as I've 12 cutters of various sizes & shapes & 6 pliers. Takes 2 cigar boxes to store them.

I am looking for a case to have all tools for electrical and electronic together. Any advise?

I get some pics soon[emoji16] [emoji106]

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[nanofrog]

I'll see about taking some photos a bit later.

Here they are...

Erem 2422EB

Lindstrom 8140Rx

Tronex 7111 (rebranded as Excelta 7140E)

Group Shots of Edges (from left to right; Lindstrom, Tronex, Erem)

I am looking for a case to have all tools for electrical and electronic together. Any advise?

Several.

Assuming for a stationary bench, you can use cedar cigar boxes or a wood machinists box, such as a Gerstner or clone (i.e. Gerstner GI-525 or similar). These are particularly useful for humid climates IME.

If humidity isn't an issue, any metal box with drawers of a suitable size would do. Assuming you even want drawers. There's also plastic boxes, if you want to go that route.

You may also want to consider pegboard on the back of your bench, and hang them from there. A magnetic strip could be used as well, although I'm not too keen on this myself, as it will magnetize your cutters & pliers; particularly a nuisance with tin plated steel leads.

There's also jeweler's plier racks of various types (wood or Perspex).

If you've a pencil drawer mounted beneath the table top, you can place them there as well (you can buy just the drawers).

If you need portable, then a nylon or canvas roll with suitable sized pockets (best to get one with a flap that folds over so they cannot slip out when rolled up). A Wiha 91118 would be one example.

Personally, I use cigar boxes, drawers, and pegboard. Plastic containers too, but usually for portable kits, such as the one I use for crimping away from the bench (i.e. pair of cutters, wire strippers, and right crimp tool for the job). Plastic boxes are good for organizing the various connectors for gear (i.e. BNC, N, and banana connectors).

For field work, I use a surplus military medic bag and a canvas doctor's type bag (pockets inside a large chamber that zips closed). Tool rolls & plastic boxes go in the bags as needed. Works quite well IME.

 

[HCNDM]

Man.... Good British tools are gonna get cheap then expensive [emoji22]


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[Rich.]

Im in disbelief.

 

[HCNDM]

Im in disbelief.

Well see where this takes us Rich. Not gonna change my opinion of the U.K. My love of scotch and the love of tools I share with many here.



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[BK13]

Those things look nice. Are they available In NA?

Edit: the Wihas, I mean...

Back from my trip! Not enough time to go visit the factories here unfortunately .

I love the uniqueness of the Wiha Inkras. Never have I seen a blue coated bit other than PB Swiss. The Witte stainless bits are super lovely. I just estimated all of my bits and I have over 500! Hmmm... maybe I should start a screwdriver bit thread since I love them like jewelry.

 

[hautpot]

no the only one available are the Weras

 

[Blöckw@rt]

Some compare Wolf Garten with Gardena? I'm interested for secateurs and loppers.

I like Wolf a little bit more than Gardena, but this is only a subjective thing.

Sometimes the price or availability in the DIY/garden market is decisively.



Alarm (Stahlwille group) 1 1/2" pipe wrench....old model but in mint condition.

 

[Monte]

Toom combination pliers

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

New tools. (Click on the picture to see them in original size)

Stahlwille



1/4", 3/8", 1/2"


3/8"

The two Gedore pliers I bought from Monte.

When Monte says they are like new, they are new. They seem unused!
Fast delivery too.

 

[Henning]

Nice additions Mr MoAiZo! Where did you get the Stahlwille? I could be tempted into buying the ratchet set... [emoji15]

 

[Mr MoAiZo]

I bought them from tbs aachen.

 

[thomfr]

I finally bit the bullet and bought a new compressor

A Javac TX3 4HP EU 230 Volt made in Cheq Republic.

Choose this one mainly because of its free run start, 100% EU made, High output (400ltrs gross, 350 ltrs nett output) low noise due to low revs (72 dba at 950 rpm.) and 5yrs waranty..
Paid € 545 incl. shipping to The Netherlands excl. tax.

Thom

 

[nutsandbolts]

Finally arrived from Germany..

 

[BK13]

Ooh, nice....


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[Ganymedes]

Yes,I´ve heard of Klann, it´s a Gedore brand, and specializes in chassis tools

 

[Henning]

I bought them from tbs aachen.

Thanks! Although I may have to try and avoid TBS Aachen for a while. This one arrived yesterday:



And all said and told it turned out damn expensive... No mention of country of origin anywhere though, which makes me slightly worried but it's a Danish company and the product seems to be top notch this far[emoji2]

Migatronic focus TIG 200 ac/dc [emoji1303]

 

[upgrading]

Finally arrived from Germany..

Nice one.