Tools from the old world

[jessysirazvan]

3M Virtua

For 4€ are ok but the lenses are slightly graded maybe are afflicted of this problem because of the curvature of the lens?Maybe someone of you know more than me?

Pb swiss Ph00

 

[Yannick]

Probably no. Beta socket are now made in China

Really, i have the new beta book and this says that tools are made in Sovico and castiglione d'adda

 

[Superbec]

Really, i have the new beta book and this says that tools are made in Sovico and castiglione d'adda

是的肯定

so if you're sure why did you asked?

 

[Yannick]

是的肯定

so if you're sure why did you asked?

I read it later in this evening in my new betabook after placing my question.

 

[Champo]

I've posted similar pictures before, but i've replaced a few things so thought I'd share my toolbag photos:

In one side: Hazet 1/4 socket set (Germany), hultafors rule (Sweden), bahco PUK saw (Germany), file (Portugal) & ratcheting spanners (Taiwan), Sutton drill bits (New Zealand), wera insulated drivers and torque handle (czech), Thor hammer (England), pbswiss bit box and bits (Switzerland)


In the other: PB Swiss hex keys, jewelers screwdrivers, ratchet screw drive and insulated driver (Switzerland), knipex cobras, strippers, round stripper, and insulated knife (Germany), vbw long nose pliers (Germany), NWS side cutters and pliers (Germany), orbis cable cutters (Germany), bahco adjustables (Spain), wera drivers (Czech), Olfa knife (Japan), vessel impactor (Japan), quick wedge driver (USA)

 

[Olafur]

Gentlemen:

I am looking for new metal lathe (in Europe hopefully) - something that can take 4-500mm in diameter and 1000-1500mm between centers. This lathe will spend it's days in shop that repairs agricultural/construction/earthmoving equipment. Perhaps they don't need high precision but I know they need rather strong lathe. Before you know it they will be turning down some heavy nasty stuff with it. So a stable heavy lathe would be preferred - not some hobby stuff.

Needless to say price is always an issue.

Suggestions?

 

[Superbec]

I read it later in this evening in my new betabook after placing my question.

I think COO may differ depending on the "line" there's "easy line " (PRC) or the other more expensive. For the price I for one would buy something else , even the PRC line is not exactly friendly priced

I've posted similar pictures before, but i've replaced a few things so thought I'd share my toolbag photos:

Can't see any pictures ... you have to hit upload button and wait for them to upload before you hit post.

Gentlemen:

I am looking for new metal lathe (in Europe hopefully)

Needless to say price is always an issue.

Suggestions?

The slightly used lathe offers on the interweb is so great it's no reason one should ever buy a brand new one.
I'm not a machinist myself but had a lathe that my uncle ran for me a few years back , It was a Toss similar to what you want 1500 between centers , height a bit less 350 .

What I can tell you is buy second hand and buy the biggest you can transport and has nice tooling , tooling will cost more than the lathe if you don't have it .

 

[jessysirazvan]

From what i know beta have 3 place in Italy

SOVICO – i know is general headquarters offices

CASTIGLIONE D'ADDA – i dont know what they produce???

SULMONA – they product only ropes accessories and no tools

But as said Superbec and from what i heard from 3 retailers Beta produce a lot of tools including socket in China
BETA Industrial Product Trading (Shanghai) Co. Ltd. – P.R. China

 

[TonyCH]

But as said Superbec and from what i heard from 3 retailers Beta produce a lot of tools including socket in China
BETA Industrial Product Trading (Shanghai) Co. Ltd. – P.R. China

That looks like office building to me rather than a tool plant. I've heard Beta has a strong push to sell tools in China, maybe this company has something to do with it?

To me, after looking at maybe 100+ individual Beta tools, it looks like Beta sockets and ratchets are made in Italy, Japan and Taiwan. Didn't spot any made in China yet.

Their combination wrenches seem to be made in Italy, Germany, China (non sparking ones). Ratcheting wrenches are made in Taiwan. And some of their toolboxes are made in China. Probably other stuff too but don't want to spend more time to find out. They do have tens of thousands of tools, no time for that.

Like somebody said, the COO must be listed when selling stuff in USA. So, instead of quessing or speculating I took a look at this site. I assume they have no motive to lie about it.

 

[losvre]

Hello all,

What do you think about the welding machines from Javac? I have seen some good prices for a small one , the TopMig 165C.

Thanks!

 

[Dave455]

Gentlemen:

I am looking for new metal lathe (in Europe hopefully) - something that can take 4-500mm in diameter and 1000-1500mm between centers. This lathe will spend it's days in shop that repairs agricultural/construction/earthmoving equipment. Perhaps they don't need high precision but I know they need rather strong lathe. Before you know it they will be turning down some heavy nasty stuff with it. So a stable heavy lathe would be preferred - not some hobby stuff.

Needless to say price is always an issue.

Suggestions?

Hi Olafur

I would definitely be looking at a second hand machine!

New machines of that size are expensive, but they don't hold their value the same way as something that will fit in a shed!

Loads of makes to choose from here in the U.K. but I'd probably be looking at something like a Colchester. Good solid machines, and I sold one a few years back, more than big enough for your needs, with two decent chucks, faceplate and tools, good working order, for £1400!

Colchesters are common so parts are easy, and you have manufacturers support if you need it!

Years ago you could get big machines really cheap, but now, below a certain value the Chinese buy everything! There's still good value stuff out there though!

 

[Monte]

Nice video Monte.

But where do you buy Dolex gripping pliers in Germany? They seem to be a less expensive alternative to Facom.

I tried to buy some from here (I placed an order over a year ago but nothing happened and they did not reply to my emails; at least they did not charge me with anything).

I´ve not yet found any stores here selling them....Maybe buy them in France ?
https://www.mabeo-direct.com/A-528615-dolex-pince-etau-bc_220

Monte, it made in Germany ?

I guess not Maybe Taiwan.

Fein Multimaster 14v vs 18

Bearing in mind that the 14v batteries are 4Ah and the 18v are 2.5Ah, would that make any difference on the power and/ or duration?

Also, am I correct to assume that 18v batteries with higher capacity would fit on the Multimaster?

Many thanks

The new Multimaster is only available in 18 volt. 14 volt is a dead system














Hazet 5,5mm combination wrench

 

[losvre]

I´ve not yet found any stores here selling them....Maybe buy them in France ?
https://www.mabeo-direct.com/A-528615-dolex-pince-etau-bc_220

I guess not Maybe Taiwan.
The new Multimaster is only available in 18 volt. 14 volt is a dead system














Hazet 5,5mm combination wrench

Hi Monte,

Thank you for the advise.

Could you also confirm if Dolex and Facom vise-grip arwbthe same?

Also, who is the OEM for the Knipex VDE screwdrivers?

I need to buy a few items and need feedback!!!

Thank you

 

[Champo]

Can't see any pictures ... you have to hit upload button and wait for them to upload before you hit post.

Fixed, I tried to use imgur links but I guess imgur is banned now

 

[jessysirazvan]

Guys I need a decent pair of protective eyewear.What you recommend my between Bolle-3M-Uvex.I own a pair of cheap 3m and a pair of 3m 2890s googles but become very quickly foggy.
I chose three models

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B01F6SICW8/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B005F40TMA/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B007Y...00_QL40&keywords=uvex+occhiali+di++protezione

 

[Superbec]

Fixed, I tried to use imgur links but I guess imgur is banned now

looks like a bunch of my tools

sans the nws I dislike

 

[Miskin]

Guys I need a decent pair of protective eyewear.What you recommend my between Bolle-3M-Uvex.I own a pair of cheap 3m and a pair of 3m 2890s googles but become very quickly foggy.
I chose three models

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B01F6SICW8/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B005F40TMA/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B007Y...00_QL40&keywords=uvex+occhiali+di++protezione

Check out these safety glasses.

https://www.fine-tools.com/schutzbrille.html

 

[jessysirazvan]

Thanks Miskin i took a look,this site is good i ordered a stone for knifes.For glasses i would prefer with B-protection grade instead of F-grade,but i think that F-grade it is quite safe.Thanks again Miskin

 

[viikinki]

Guys I need a decent pair of protective eyewear.What you recommend my between Bolle-3M-Uvex.I own a pair of cheap 3m and a pair of 3m 2890s googles but become very quickly foggy.
I chose three models

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B01F6SICW8/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_2?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B005F40TMA/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A11IL2PNWYJU7H

https://www.amazon.it/gp/aw/d/B007Y...00_QL40&keywords=uvex+occhiali+di++protezione

I have been using these, Zekler 55

 

[Miskin]

Thanks Miskin i took a look,this site is good i ordered a stone for knifes.For glasses i would prefer with B-protection grade instead of F-grade,but i think that F-grade it is quite safe.Thanks again Miskin

What's the difference between B and F grade? I was thinking to try those glasses but i wasn't sure about what type i need...

Eventually i bought something else from them like you did!

 

[jessysirazvan]

What's the difference between B and F grade? I was thinking to try those glasses but i wasn't sure about what type i need...

Eventually i bought something else from them like you did!

Grade F test: shoot a 6mm steel ball, 0.86g at 45 metres per second directly in lens

Grade B test:shoot a 6mm steel ball, 0.86g at 120 metres per second

The only differs is in speed impact

 

[Champo]

looks like a bunch of my tools

sans the nws I dislike

I think the NWS cutters are great, but I don't like the combination pliers. Between them, knipex and vbw, my favourite are vbw by far.

The real gems are Swiss made wiha if you can find them!

 

[decaf]

New pair of industrial scissors.
Hesse?? Haven´t heard about them before, Germany? Anybody knows??
Super heavy duty industrial scissors anyway, love it...



And a pair of Knipex, im sure will come handy when installing oetiker clamps and so on...

 

[Monte]

Hi Monte,

Thank you for the advise.

Could you also confirm if Dolex and Facom vise-grip arwbthe same?

Also, who is the OEM for the Knipex VDE screwdrivers?

I need to buy a few items and need feedback!!!

Thank you

The Dolex pliers are made by Dolex (formerly Outillage Roux) and the Facom pliers are made by Facom.

The Knipex drivers are "Made in EU" iirc

Guys I need a decent pair of protective eyewear.What you recommend my between Bolle-3M-Uvex.I own a pair of cheap 3m and a pair of 3m 2890s googles but become very quickly foggy.
I chose three models

Uvex - Made in Germany
These have a anti-fog coating for example:
http://www.uvex-safety.com/en/produ...-spectacles/model/468/modelName/uvex-i-works/

New pair of industrial scissors.
Hesse?? Haven´t heard about them before, Germany? Anybody knows??
Super heavy duty industrial scissors anyway, love it...

Hesse is a distributor of tools
https://heinz-hesse-kg.de
















News from Bosch: 12 volt "FlexiClick" system (available jan 2017)

 

[decaf]

Ahhh, i found it after searching:

Heinz Hesse KG
Yale-Allee 17, 42329 Wuppertal, Germany

Thanks Monte

 

[ultgar]

First production run of the S.161B was in France....future runs likely in Italy

 

[T45]

First production run of the S.161B was in France....future runs likely in Italy

Did they do away with the cover plate (palm control) on those?

They look nice and minimalist, glad to seem them keeping the basic design.

 

[ultgar]

Correction..........made in Italy. These were probably sent to France for packaging for the first production run. Ratchet clearly says Italy on the handle.

These are no longer palm control. The rear knurled disk for for direction change only.

The ratchet is 15% lighter than the previous S.161 and the head is 10% more compact. They are also rebuildable (unlike the Taiwanese rotator & pear head ratchets...SL.161/SL.171/S.360) .

 

[jessysirazvan]

Thanks Monte for advice

 

[chikongio]

Ultgar, where did you order the Facom S.161B?

 

[HCNDM]

Correction..........made in Italy. These were probably sent to France for packaging for the first production run. Ratchet clearly says Italy on the handle.

These are no longer palm control. The rear knurled disk for for direction change only.

The ratchet is 15% lighter than the previous S.161 and the head is 10% more compact. They are also rebuildable (unlike the Taiwanese rotator & pear head ratchets...SL.161/SL.171/S.360) .

It's on my wishlist now!


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[ultgar]

I ordered 10 from the factory and they only sent 9. Hopefully, they'll be able to process larger orders without any backorders once take care of the initial demand.

See http://www.ultimategarage.com/shop/part.php?products_id=8298 . Take another 10% off for Facom orders over $100 until 12/24 (excluding sale and closeout items as these are already deeply discounted).

Steve

 

[marlinspike]

Ultrgar posting again? Have I just been under a rock, or is this a triumphant return?

 

[JukeBox]

Got 'em!

 

[Monte]

Got 'em!

nice pliers !









Caramba brake cleaner

 

[vasili]

Was a Factory in Europe UIK

 

[pistolpete1313]

I have the side cutters and love them.

Are they available new or is anything out there just NOS?

 

[jd100]

[/ATTACH]New yesterday facom 1/2 impact.

 

[rice rocket]

Anyone use the Knipex crimping pliers (for RJ45)? People tend to recommend the Klein over here, but there are very few Knipex pliers I've used that I don't like.

 

[katiexoxo]

Picked up these 2 from the flea market
About 10$ for the 180 mm knipex and 2$ for a wera Phillips screwdriver.
I'm new to this. Did I overpay? They seem very used