Very true but after repeatedly losing bits in my engine bay I'm looking for an alternative solution than a magnet to hold the bits in place.
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Very true but after repeatedly losing bits in my engine bay I'm looking for an alternative solution than a magnet to hold the bits in place.
Some used circlip pliers from Ebay.
Bahco Sweden, Usag Italy, nws Germany
Particularly impressed the quality of the USAG.
Bit confused about USAG. Do they now just sell rebranded Facom (Stanley) tools? What the point?
Bahco Sweden, Usag Italy, nws Germany
Particularly impressed the quality of the USAG.
Bit confused about USAG. Do they now just sell rebranded Facom (Stanley) tools? What the point?
Cynical huckster
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USAG pliers are mostly made by Bost now. Moreover, USAG export prices are even higher than Facom ones. I had a meeting with USAG representative when she came to Ukraine, and I tried to negotiate additional discounts, but unsuccessfully
The answer is presumably so that the company has a range of brands to place at certain price points based on geography/branding value / advertising quantity etc. Just like VAG has Skoda, VW, Audi, Porsche, Bentley, Lamborghini & Bugatti (& others?) in order to have a product for every taste in every market.
They seem to have effectively closed down every small brand they have taken over, I now try to avoid any Stanley branded products in protest but the likes of me (and I expect, most of GJ) are <0.1% of the market. Most people do not know and do not care, more's the pity.
I wonder if this general world-trend will reverse within my lifetime?
Facom ratchet screwdriver has a locking collar that needs to be pulled down before you can remove the bit, it looks thinner too;
Catfishdan
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I'm hoping some of our European members might have some insight on this Facom set I picked up. Box is marked no. 712. Looks like a repaint, unless they brush painted tool boxes back then. Inside is a wooden insert with a full 1/2 drive set from 8mm-32mm. The drive tools are marked with an "s" followed by two digits. Made in France. Any idea of the age, rarity, value, etc? Thanks!
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Reed Prince
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Facom ratchet screwdriver has a locking collar that needs to be pulled down before you can remove the bit, it looks thinner too;
Amazon.com's description says "A powerful magnetic adaptor holds the bit and the screw." Perhaps they just neglected to mention the mechanical locking feature?
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B004ZFC6B2/?tag=atomicindus08-20
Combination pliers. CK 180mm from their Classic range. Disappointingly no coo markings so unsure if they are made in Germany. Orbis 160mm new old stock. The seller said they were made in 'West Germany.' Fit and finish on both is very nice.
I contacted CK who confirmed their Classic pliers are manufactured in Taiwan.
Combination pliers. CK 180mm from their Classic range. Disappointingly no coo markings so unsure if they are made in Germany. Orbis 160mm new old stock. The seller said they were made in 'West Germany.' Fit and finish on both is very nice.
Both have a flower shape pivot similar to Knipex. Hard to see in the pic.
I think those Orbis are post-Wende. I have some W German Orbis pliers from my grandfather that he stored in the original bags. The packaging is either yellow or green, and says “Germany W.”
Regardless, excellent pliers.
I don't have any info on the set, but that looks great!
zerosanity
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Hello All,
I bough from amazon my first KNIPEX, a 70 01 160 SB Cutting Pliers.
There are just great, they really are among the best pliers arround. And surely the best ive ever had. Great edge, a few tests with steel rivets, with no dents or damage. Great steel.
They are great machined, and absolutly no play on the arms, the assembly is perfect. Only thing is that they are a bit stiff, need to put a little force to open it, no smooth free action. Is this normal? Is it because of assembly tolerances so low to make it precise?
Im a bit newb with quality tools. sorry.
Also ordered some BAHCO 7800SM sockets for a 1/2" ratchet. These are just GREAT quality, nice finish, really heavy. Just was intrigued to see the label MADE IN USA on them...
I bough from amazon my first KNIPEX, a 70 01 160 SB Cutting Pliers.
There are just great, they really are among the best pliers arround. And surely the best ive ever had. Great edge, a few tests with steel rivets, with no dents or damage. Great steel.
They are great machined, and absolutly no play on the arms, the assembly is perfect. Only thing is that they are a bit stiff, need to put a little force to open it, no smooth free action. Is this normal? Is it because of assembly tolerances so low to make it precise?
Im a bit newb with quality tools. sorry.
Also ordered some BAHCO 7800SM sockets for a 1/2" ratchet. These are just GREAT quality, nice finish, really heavy. Just was intrigued to see the label MADE IN USA on them...
Hello All,
I bough from amazon my first KNIPEX, a 70 01 160 SB Cutting Pliers.
There are just great, they really are among the best pliers arround. And surely the best ive ever had. Great edge, a few tests with steel rivets, with no dents or damage. Great steel.
They are great machined, and absolutly no play on the arms, the assembly is perfect. Only thing is that they are a bit stiff, need to put a little force to open it, no smooth free action. Is this normal? Is it because of assembly tolerances so low to make it precise?
Im a bit newb with quality tools. sorry.
Also ordered some BAHCO 7800SM sockets for a 1/2" ratchet. These are just GREAT quality, nice finish, really heavy. Just was intrigued to see the label MADE IN USA on them...
I just got into Knipex last year, but at this point, I've bought a lot of them. I'd say that on average, no it's not very common in my experience for Knipex pliers to be stiff. The Knipex pliers I have are almost all as smooth as Channellocks but as strong (if not stronger) than Kleins.
That said, there have been a few Knipex pliers/cutters (maybe 1 out of 5) that came a bit stiff and needed to be well oiled to loosen up. This seems to happen more frequently in the smaller sizes, like the 140s and 160s (excluding precision and electronics pliers). Out of all the Knipex I have that are 180mm or larger, I don't remember any of them ever being stiff when I received them.
Looking at buying a cordless oscillating tool. Limiting to Fein because they invented this tool, and I think the Fein cordless drill I bought a few months ago is the best drill I’ve ever used. Also, then I can buy from anywhere in the world, as I already have a US charger.
MultiMaster (AFMM18) or SuperCut (AFSC18)? I really don’t get the difference between them.
MultiMaster (AFMM18) or SuperCut (AFSC18)? I really don’t get the difference between them.
Land Rover 109
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Irega, today's flea market catch
They are nice adjustable wrenches- have several of these myself from 6-12".
About Knipex or any pliers coming with a stiff pivot. I read into this recently after buying Knipex with this issue.
Opening and closing them over and over while watching TV does the trick most times. Best done without oil as oil reduces friction and you want friction to wear the pivot smooth. Oil can be cleaned out with degreaser or hot soapy water.
For really stiff pivots add grinding compound/paste (I used green compound that I have for knife sharpening strops). Clean out compound with oil when smooth.
This is internet wisdom that worked well for me. Not advice from a seasoned pro.
Opening and closing them over and over while watching TV does the trick most times. Best done without oil as oil reduces friction and you want friction to wear the pivot smooth. Oil can be cleaned out with degreaser or hot soapy water.
For really stiff pivots add grinding compound/paste (I used green compound that I have for knife sharpening strops). Clean out compound with oil when smooth.
This is internet wisdom that worked well for me. Not advice from a seasoned pro.
zerosanity
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OK will try that... Thanks.
Anyway, great pliers...
Anyway, great pliers...
Kasal
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user.nr.1
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Amazon.de is having a sale on BMI measuring tapes. I paid 60$ for the complete haul.
dutchgray
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I think the SuperCut oscillation angle is greater, making it a bit more effective as the cutting teeth cover a greater arc. They have more power as well.
I have a Multi Master that is now the Multi talent and its great, I use my cordless Bosch more because of the convenience but for any bigger job the Fein comes out, its the better tool.
Bogdan M.
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Last week-end I went to Autototal Business show - an exhibition by a local parts supplier.
Not a lot of tools unfortunately, but still it was interesting.
Not a lot of tools unfortunately, but still it was interesting.
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upgrading
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Nice pics from the Auto show.
I have not seen those type handle before.
How comfortable are the handles on the right compared to the one in the center ?Amazon.de is having a sale on BMI measuring tapes. I paid 60$ for the complete haul.
I have not seen those type handle before.
user.nr.1
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On a first impression I prefer the big handle.
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^^^^^ Cool looking show. Makes me really want a garage with a lift.
Facom 45 tooth ratchet screwdriver.
Quite a heavy thing. The direction knob is metal which makes the driver feel oddly weighted in the middle. Think it would be better plastic. You expect ratchet screwdrivers to be rattly plasticy things anyway. Feels better to me with no bits in the handle.
The mechanism for holding the bit (reason for buying this driver) is very effective and very easy to use. No more lost bits
Facom 45 tooth ratchet screwdriver.
Quite a heavy thing. The direction knob is metal which makes the driver feel oddly weighted in the middle. Think it would be better plastic. You expect ratchet screwdrivers to be rattly plasticy things anyway. Feels better to me with no bits in the handle.
The mechanism for holding the bit (reason for buying this driver) is very effective and very easy to use. No more lost bits
Where did you get that? I like it.^^^^^ Cool looking show. Makes me really want a garage with a lift.
Facom 45 tooth ratchet screwdriver.
Quite a heavy thing. The direction knob is metal which makes the driver feel oddly weighted in the middle. Think it would be better plastic. You expect ratchet screwdrivers to be rattly plasticy things anyway. Feels better to me with no bits in the handle.
The mechanism for holding the bit (reason for buying this driver) is very effective and very easy to use. No more lost bits
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upgrading
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?Thanks. I placed an order for 2 things from the uk site... i will see if i get them in the usa.
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Land Rover 109
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My favourite 3/4"ratchet.
It is a Gedore, but not a German Gedore.
It is a Gedore, but not a German Gedore.
From where? South Africa? Australia?My favourite 3/4"ratchet.
It is a Gedore, but not a German Gedore.
Land Rover 109
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Third photo gives it away, bottom of the ratchet handle there is a SA, so this tool is from "New Germany" KwaZulu - Natal, South Africa.
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Would’ve spotted that if I was wearing my glasses
South African Gedore is top drawer stuff, my 62p adjustable spanner’s are fantasticYou can be certain only if they have "made in Germany" on them.
Most new ones are made by Oplast? Some of their line could be made in Germany.
I found this myself when I bought the very long ones and they have no coo one them.
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Gerry Clarke
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Could not find Vincent tools on the forum, so here are some Whitworth rings - a little crude and uneven in head mass, but the broaching is good and they are very usable. Don't know anything of the history, but I've seen them with a H&P stamping which I've also seen on Whitworth Blue Points. They are nothing to do with the Vincent motorcycle company.
Gerry
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