Ah yes, that's correct. Had the wrong part number. 12 point is actually 3305P and comes in 250mm length.
The 1/4 versions are where the Nepro's really shine IMO. With 3/8 I'd have to say I use my Snap-on's and other more often but there is just something about that little 1/4 Nepros I love.
Which bit-holder adaptor do you plan to use for this? Many of the ones I’ve seen are clumsy to use. Too long, sloppy fit, or don’t hold the bit with the right strength.
I bought a KoKen bit holder, it appears to have a similar retaining setup as the nut grip sockets and looks pretty trim. I’ll find out next week when it arrives if it’s any good.
I found the 1/4" Ko-ken bit holder to not securely retain bits, often the bit would stay in the fastener, but it does make it easy to remove bits. If you use E6 bits, the Ko-ken will have no trouble compared to the Stahlwille, as the spring in the Stahlwille can get stuck in the groove of the bit. I think the 1/4" Proto bit holders are quite good, as well as the Stahlwille.
Agreed. The wire spring clip seemed to be lacking any real force in the 1/4" bit holder by Koken. First Koken item I have been disappointed with. I returned it but kept the 3/8" bit holder because it works well. I ordered a Gedore 1/4 drive bit holder, so waiting for that to come in the mail.
I noticed the Ko-ken model was a few millimetres shorter than every other maker’s I checked. That’s good in itself, but now I guess we now know why the others were a little longer.
I've found that the spring clip on the Gedore can rotate around 180˚. This happened to me once and I didn't notice it at the time, When I put another bit into it later the ball bearing popped out.
Have you tried the Hazel bit socket? They hold the bits VERY securely
Where is the Hazet made? I’m pretty sure the Gedore 620 shown above is not German.
I'm not so fond of the new design either
Interesting. I'm the opposite. I always use a swivel type spark plug socket or use a universal joint with a standard spark plug socket.
I’m with you on that!
Well, if you are torquing with a swivel and it is at an angle ( misaligned) not all the torque is transmitted to the plug, some gets reacted sideways.
If you need the wobble, I would probably just get one of the one-piece Hazet wobble plug sockets with the built in extension and have something dedicated for the job.
I got these in this weekend, an 18mm Olfa L-5 and a bent nose Tsunoda FR-150. The Olfa feels decent in hand with the knob, not great, just decent. But I'm not at all worried about the blade feeling like it's going to pull out when it gets caught on rough cuts and not as concerned with premature snapulation as with my 9mm in the warehouse. I'm relegating it to the warehouse, keeping my SVR-2 for EDC office use, and will prolly get an auto-lock LA-X for the garage. The 'gap' at the bend on the FR-150s is due to the angle of the pic rather than any jaw surface defects. It is right at the bend which straddles the transition from the flat jaw section to the serrated jaw section. When the cutters fully engage, the tips touch... just as it should be.
When I contribute to this forum, I’m always very conscious of national characteristics.
I believe this is just an alternative option, not meant as a replacement by any means.When I contribute to this forum, I’m always very conscious of national characteristics.
Americans, for example, generally try to be positive and supportive, of products produced by American companies. This is very patriotic, and refreshing, but can lead to problems. Remember when Coca Cola introduced a “new” recipe? All the focus groups had been saying “oh yeah, it’s really great”, then of course it bombed!
No risk of that in the U.K. If you produce a product that’s 97% perfect, everybody will “rip you a new one” for the 3% you screwed up!
I love Nepros, but where this is concerned I have to come over all British and ask “WHAT ARE THEY THINKING”?
When you use a tool, any tool, it needs to feel good. Rounded is good, corners are bad. Guys pay huge sums for gunsmiths to “de horn” their firearms - just smoothing the corners to make them nicer to use.
Nepros ratchets are beautiful in this regard. They go to immense trouble to make a hollow handle that can be totally rounded without affecting the balance. Then they bring out his “thing”. All the aesthetics of a bears ****, totally impractical gaps to trap fingers and grease, and they’ve gone out of their way to add some corners!
I love Japanese tools, and when they try to make western style tools, but better than many western manufacturers, they often succeed. Sometimes, however, their outlook is just too different, and you get a complete fail.
I’m sure some folks will buy this, it’s going to be rare for sure, but I won’t be one of them!
When I contribute to this forum, I’m always very conscious of national characteristics.
Americans, for example, generally try to be positive and supportive, of products produced by American companies. This is very patriotic, and refreshing, but can lead to problems. Remember when Coca Cola introduced a “new” recipe? All the focus groups had been saying “oh yeah, it’s really great”, then of course it bombed!
No risk of that in the U.K. If you produce a product that’s 97% perfect, everybody will “rip you a new one” for the 3% you screwed up!
I love Nepros, but where this is concerned I have to come over all British and ask “WHAT ARE THEY THINKING”?
When you use a tool, any tool, it needs to feel good. Rounded is good, corners are bad. Guys pay huge sums for gunsmiths to “de horn” their firearms - just smoothing the corners to make them nicer to use.
Nepros ratchets are beautiful in this regard. They go to immense trouble to make a hollow handle that can be totally rounded without affecting the balance. Then they bring out his “thing”. All the aesthetics of a bears ****, totally impractical gaps to trap fingers and grease, and they’ve gone out of their way to add some corners!
I love Japanese tools, and when they try to make western style tools, but better than many western manufacturers, they often succeed. Sometimes, however, their outlook is just too different, and you get a complete fail.
I’m sure some folks will buy this, it’s going to be rare for sure, but I won’t be one of them!
