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Tools That you Wouldn't BUY AKA. Tools that ****!!

MarkH

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After 3 years we have a whole new set of things to complain about as well as a few old ones.

The number one tool that was worthless for us that looked like it might work. The adust-a-box wrench. Idea not bad only works on larger nuts - bolts with nothing around them due to size.

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Some highly intelligent person did a buy it now. Why?
 
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nissan_crawler

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I know, old thread, but...

I add Sears Robogrip pliers to the list of hated tools. They should be called Roundoffgrip.
Coach

agreed

Yep I dont like Dewalt....lets move on

agreed

Oh... and they're not tools, but they've been really driving me nuts lately. Any fasteners from the Hillman Co (as found in many hardware stores). The stuff is from China and it aint worth the box it comes in. I have twisted apart enough lag bolts (with a ratchet no less!) to suit me for a lifetime. Apparently lag bolts are no longer designed to be reusable. Thread finish is awful, too. :sad:

Also agree. It's fun trying to put a 5/16" lag bolt in, when it has a 3/16" booger on the threads.

As everybody knows, you can add SK to my list, just not my thing.

B&D, yeah...not great at all, but at least they don't pretend to be.
 

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Snap-on pear head ratchets. They make pretty good round heads and my FH747 sees a lot of use but I don't know why anyone would spend that much money on those ratchets.

For the right price I would buy Dewalt tools but if price was a concern Bosch, Milwaukee, or Hitachi would probably be first for anything other than maybe angle grinders.
 

Monte

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After 3 years we have a whole new set of things to complain about as well as a few old ones.

The number one tool that was worthless for us that looked like it might work. The adust-a-box wrench. Idea not bad only works on larger nuts - bolts with nothing around them due to size.

http://i14.ebayimg.com/02/i/000/fa/cd/c620_1_b.JPG

Some highly intelligent person did a buy it now. Why?

looks like an older version of this thing:

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Mike83

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Tool Shop (Menard's) 4 1/2" angle grinder. Only reason I bought it was that it was $10. Already replaced under warranty once (the motor runs, wheel just slips). The bearings sound like they are lubed with sand.

Craftsman 19.2V 3/8" drill. The chuck slips and batteries ****. The impact driver is nice, although same sucky battery.

Craftsman needle nose pliers. The tips are practically pointed, so they break right off.
 

zuspiel

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Resurrected or not:

RoboGrips (besides rounding off stuff, they are also really good for tearing up round stuff...)

Lowes Kobald locking flex ratcheting wrenches. I bought those before finding this forum. They are the only tools in my box that I truly, absolutely hate. A week ago, I finally got two GW XL sets. Difference is night and day. The Kobalds will slip if there is ANY torque perpendicular to the axis. My knuckels can attest to this... They also come unlocked with any up/down wiggle on the handle. Hate them!

Ok, I'll get off my soap box now... :D
 

Bo Heck

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those kobalt ratchet wrenches are terrible! I've never used one but I've played with them in the store, and they **** mightily compared to GW
 

Monte

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I`m happy so far with my Wera bits - only the coating has come off after a while
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FNFS2000

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anything that can be found in a big box store, I avoid like the plague.
 

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Anything from Advance Auto or AutoZone
Anything from Harbor Freight
Anything that is made overseas
Anything that says "As Seen on TV"
Kobalt Tools
 

burleymike

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Craftsman oil free compressors (the pump is a product of Taiwan, motor China)
Craftsman small pliers and wire cutters
Craftsman screw drivers
harborfreight mitre saw
Ryobi anything
 

Kev442

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Wow! I think I need to go buy a rope and hang myself. I own about everything everyone hates on this list!:wtf:

I have:

Dewalt recip saw
Skil circular saw, made in usa
B&D circular saw (since 1983)
Craftsman Ratchets
Gator grip (it is used at work to release stuck clamp tighteners)
Craftsman oil less compressor (I got sucked in by the fake HP ratings)

Oh well, things that ****:

Stanley screw drivers

B&D RTX rotary tool, the chuck won't stay tight, while cutting drywall!

My Robogrips have never been used, I have tried fitting them to stuff a couple times, but they don't work.

I'll edit as I think of more!:bounce:
 

Garage_Mahal

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C-man Clench Wrench. Similar design concept, but worse execution that even the Robo Grips.
 

T56 Impala

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Any thing Snap on. I have never been impressed with their supposed "Quality". The price is silly. IMO SO is nothing more than high priced bling.

Kobalt screwdrivers
 

Chris Adams

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Heck, to chime in on this, Robogrips, I got them for 1.00 at the swap meet.
So what do you use them on? They never quite fit. The guy using them on hose ends may have the only use there is.
Craftsman Philips... Should sell for a buck, then you wouldn't mind tossing them. I've had them replace two, now I don’t want to use them as it wastes gas to replace getting replacements .I never abuse a Philips.

Still breaking pop rivet guns, now I’m just swapping the lifetime warranty ones at HF about once over two weeks. More gas wasted, at least it’s on my way.
 
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GrantMLS

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Yup - somone got me robogrips - think both my father and I got them one year - horrible - guy at work swears by them so i gave him my set. Craftman rachets - I have some old ones ~30-40 years old never any issues, but the few I have bought over the last 10 years have all been replaced several times - no longer bother with the warrenty bought some used proto/snap ons.
 

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I bought a set of Mac branded RoboGrips years ago. I never could get into using them on a day to day basis. They do, however, have the sharpest teeth of any pliers I've seen. So I use them for when I need to really dig into things, like stuck screw in studs. They work great for stuff like that if you have a healthy grip. I lent 'em to one guy and all he could do was shred the studs he was trying to pull.
 

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Red handled oil filter wrench - Normally sold at any AutoZone or Advanced Auto Parts store. This thing is made for any size filter but the little piece of metal that holds the jaws in place for either the small filter or large filter will weaken and then only work with large filters. Truly a POS.


Wagner Paint sprayer - The TV commercials make the thing look awesome. Then you buy the regular unit (the one with the container that screws on to the head) and then you pull the trigger and the thing is as loud as a lawn mower and gives you a headache after 5 minutes of use. The nozzle tip also clogs up right away.

Wagner Paint Sprayer "System" - This is the one with the 50' hose that you drop in to your 1 gal or 5 gal bucket. The first time you go to use it, you quickly find out that the nozzle tips only work if you fully dilute your paint. Then, even after you do that, your latex paint will quickly clock the nozzle during your next 5 minute break to get more paint. What a piece of ****. I finally gave up on it, threw it in a garbage bag and took the whole thing back to HD for a refund. I had wasted almost a full day trying to get things to work and in less than 3 hours I just painted everything with a good ole' fashioned paint roller. Now I always just buy a good quality roller.

i-drive garage door opener - You'll get it "installed" (at least the motor) in record time (min 30 minutes without even breaking a sweat) and then you'll spend 2-3 days trying to get the remotes fully programmed. Then when you call customer support in India, they just reread you the same directions you're already staring at and they ask you to reset the system each time. Then when all is finally set up, you'll hit the remote and nothing will happen. Just when you're thinking of hitting the remote again (cause maybe it didn't take the first time) the door will go ahead and open/close. For some reason they don't advertise the "delay" feature. What a piece of ****. Yes, I do have one installed and am anxiously waiting to replace it. I would have taken it back but Menards no longer even sells the "torsion" unit ones anymore. I should have taken it back the minute I opened the packaging and found no less than 5 stickers saying "do not take back to place where unit was purchase. Please contact MFG at 800 number". I also have a Liftmaster 3800 with battery back up and (even after having used every Craftsman unit ever made) I must say that Liftmaster makes the absolutely best opener in the world.


Craftsman handheld power tools - Sorry, I'm a HUGE fan of anything with the name Craftsman on it but all of these tools always let me down. I think they're all overpriced rebadged B&D units. I'll stick with Milwauke, RIGID, Porter Cable, and Delta.

Any Hand tools from Menards - I bought their impact sockets and they didn't even last 5 minutes while using a cheap impact gun at the time.

WD40 - Other than for rust protection (and barely even that anymore), there are now so many superior chemicals that you can choose from. PB Blaster and Freeze Off are now my favorites.

Craftsman wire cutters - Forget these and just buy anything with the word Klein on it instead. Their wire cutters truly hold up over time and it's no wonder that electricians prefer them.
 
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alkemyst

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I agree with Black and Decker

HOLY MOLY...I just bought a new jigsaw to replace one of those B&D's with the rotary 'lock' knob. Always fell to a bevel and ruined a cut about 90% of the time.

How can they sell this. My new B&D has a very positive lock, I actually tried in the store to move the plate :)

My recent review of this POS: at amazon
 
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Robogrips-aside from not working,they are just plain UGLY.Some idiot designers idea of "manly",I suppose.
Lisle Torx bits-used 'em for interior trim on an old Freightliner,worn out just using a screwdriver type spinner handle.
Most newer air ratchets with enough torque to bash your hand into the nearest hard or sharp object.
 

Chris Adams

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OUCH
Wagner Paint sprayer
Gee, I thought only the one I had was total junk. Forgot that one.
 

TRTOOLSUPPLY

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Wagner power painter bought by my dad at 3D store(remember Danner's).After taking the thing back 3 times my dad threw it off the ladder he was on and shot it with his S&W 41 mag.I was about 13 yrs.old,can't buy memories like that!!!!
Richard
 

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Yes.. I have wagner power roller 'experiance'. I was painting the step daughters bedroom some disney colors for when my now wife moved in with me. that damn thing dripped every time i turned around. It was my wifes first experiance with my temper. We damn near split. I **** canned that *************.
 

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Yep, used the Wagner power roller just once. It's faster to just use a regular roller and clean up the few drips.
 

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My biggest gripe are cheapo drill bits. They end up costing you MORE work than you started out with.
I know some people love 'em, but I'd never buy a set of individual nutdrivers. I already have a 1/4" socket driver and nut driver bits take up much less space than the individual drivers do.
Another tool I'd never buy is ANY edged tool made of substandard steel that cant be resharpened enough to shave hair with (and hold it's edge).
Also, another vote for the Robogrips, be it Craftsman, Mac, or whomever.
 

krooser

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Where do I start.... the first POS tools I bought were Indian-made box end wrenches in 1979... I broke three 9/16 in ten minutes. They were being sold from a trailer in a truckstop parking lot in Ill. I finally gave up returning them and have kept them all of these years as a reminder of what NOT to buy.

Plastic sand blast cabinet...junk. HF air chucks and fittings... junk. HF bead roller...needs many improvements to make it consistant. Bought a Chinese hammer drill... burned out after six holes.Cheap drill bits in a US made case... bench grinders that lack anything close to their rated HP (I had a 1/3 HP 6" ChiCom grinder that i could stop when sharpening a 1/4" drillbit!

I'm still not done but it's time for others to chime in...
 

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Craftsman handheld power tools - Sorry, I'm a HUGE fan of anything with the name Craftsman on it but all of these tools always let me down. I think they're all overpriced rebadged B&D units. I'll stick with Milwauke, RIGID, Porter Cable, and Delta.

I would tend to agree with you regarding any Cman portable power tools, but I have their 7" "Craftsman Professional" angle grinder, and it has become one of my favorite power tools. I would say it meets the quality of any of my US-made Milwaukee tools. I caught it on-sale for way less than I could find on any name-brand equivalents.
 

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Standard Craftsman needle nose pliers. I don't even trade them in on warranty anymore. Just put em to the bench grinder and make duck bill pliers out of them.
 

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I agree with Black and Decker

So do I.

Seems like B&D tries really hard to introduce "innovative" features to a tool, while still building it to a price-point.

Example: I had a Firestorm cordless drill, 24v I believe. The drill had a quick-disconnect chuck, underneath which was a bit holder. Drill a pilot hole, pop the chuck off, run a screw down.

All this for $69! Brilliant!

That is, until I discovered that a cheap, detachable chuck plays hell with the drill's run out.
 
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