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Top quality T-handle sockets??

pfbz

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A bunch of my work is on motorcycles (KTM's!), and I use one-piece T-handle wrenches like these all the time. (Actually, have both of the sets pictured below)
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They offer enough torque that I rarely have to put a socket on a ratchet or breaker bar to loosen, they offer great access with the length, and spin nuts and bolts quickly. All the ones I've found so far are Chinese, and at some point, I'd like to find and purchase some top quality versions.

I know that I could use a conventional sliding T-handle, extension and socket, and have tried that. It doesn't offer the same utility. The resulting combo tool is *much* heavier and less convenient, and often I have two or three sizes that I'm switching back and forth between. It's sort of like having a set of Phillips screwdrivers #0, #1, #2, #3 instead of having one driver handle with interchangeable bits.. Everybody prefers the dedicated screwdrivers of course!

Anybody know of an excellent quality US, Euro, or Japanese version of these wrenches? I haven't had one of these fail (and motion pro does offer a lifetime warranty), but they are pretty much the only Chinese tools I lay my hands on with any regularity and would prefer some top quality ones.

Also, does anybody know the relationship between "Motion Pro" tools, a specialty motorcyce tool company, and Mac Tools? The Mac website lists many of the Motion Pro tools, but I assume it is just some sort of marketing agreement.
 
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pfbz

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Actually I have the regular Wiha nut-drivers and love them for light duty stuff, but I think the Wiha T's (and the Elora ones shown) will not provide enough torque to loosen most bolts on the bike without using a different tool first. Figure about 20-40NM for most of the 8mm and 10mm bolts. 45-50NM for 12mm bolts, which often I'll need to grab a ratchet for anyway or use the sliding T's shown in the second picture.

What's great about the longer T's shown in the first post is I don't have to grab a socket, extension, ratchet to loosen a bolt first, and if the bolt isn't torque critical, I don't have to use another tool for a final tighten either.
 
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I have full sets of regular length and long length Toptul metric sizes. They are excellent quality. I highly recommend them!
 

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What is the largest size?

I wonder about buying some 1/4" extensions (10" or better) fill the female end with weld, center drill it for a bar, then put your socket on the male end.

Start with USA made sockets and extensions, and make them yourself.
 
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pfbz

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I've heard good things about these 'Turbo-T's
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The turbo-T's look interesting... hadn't seen them before. Though I'm not sure how much you really need the collar to spin the T. The regualar ones spin pretty easily with a light grip.

I have a couple of one-piece T-s with just a 1/4", 3/8", or 1/2" drive tip that you can put your own socket on
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as well as ASV's unique 3-way Y-handle
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The one-piece-with-socket welded ones definitely are more handy IMHO...
 

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your failry new here so you may not know yet. Mike Wren is the US retailer of Toptul. He is a member here and gives a discount to GJ members. Look him up and email him for pricing. I believe the screen name is ' wrenhandtools' Or something close to that. He is a great guy to deal with:thumbup:

Edit, since he is a supporting member I guess this is legal. www.wrenhandtools.com
 

jlenander

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Re: sizes available.
Both my sets are 8-14mm. My Toptul catalog shows they also have sizes 17mm and 19mm available in the long handle version. They even have sets (long and short, 8-14mm) with the sockets mounted on a ball swivel. Not sure I'd regularly use T-handles for sizes above 14mm; seems like a regular socket and ratchet might be more appropriate for the torque those sizes would require.
Jon

Wow...Some fast fingers here...with mad cut and paste skills to boot! Well, to sum up: What pfbz said!
 
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Andy Traxel

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I second the Turbo-T handle suggestion.

The fairing on my 2000 BMW R1100RT is held on by a couple dozen button-head screws that are driven by a 3 mm hex bit. It seems as though at least half the fairing has to come off to do anything to the bike. Some of the screws are in damn inconvenient places. 6 of the screws go into threaded inserts molded into the plastic fuel tank. Over-torquing them is really bad.

I first got a bag of Bondhus 3 mm ball end power bits to use in a long SO ratcheting screwdriver. Worked good but was hard on my wrist. Then I got a Turbo-T handle for 1/4" hex bits to put the Bondhus bits in. Love it.

I then bought 1/4", 3/8" & 1/2" square drive power bits for the Turbo-T so I can put any of my other sockets or square drive tools on it.

With the Turbo-T and my standard 1/4" & 3/8" square drive sliding handles, I can't see getting dedicated T-handles.

Andy
 

Flash21

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Well, by coincidence I was in my local Tool Town store today shortly after posting to this thread. I've been wanting to get the Turbo Ts for a while.

Tool Town had the Turbo Ts at a much lower price than Snap-On / Blue-Point ($37.50 for the 3/8" drive compared to $55.90 through SO). I bought the 3/8" drive because it was such an enjoyable tool to handle. The welds are butter smooth and the collar has really nice bearings in it allowing the handle to get quite a spin. It was labeled VIM Tools.

From the Snap-On webpage:

T-Handle, Turbo Speed, Blue-Point, 3/8" sq. drive
Stock#: F11TURBO

$55.90



Description:
Constant pressure can be applied to fastener while turning handle. Faster than ordinary speed wrenches. Safer on threads than power tools. Designed by a professional motor builder, endorsed and used by race teams.
Features
• Stainless Steel Body
• Aerospace Aluminum Handle
• Patent Pending
• Heavy Duty Design
• Unique Bearing Design
• Lifetime Warranty

...Though I'm not sure how much you really need the collar to spin the T. The regualar ones spin pretty easily with a light grip....

As stated above, the collar allows constant pressure on the fasterner. Plus, the collar spins really freely allowing a more sure grip with more speed.
 
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