Wrenchette
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T60 to remove and replace the front caliper brackets on my 1994 Olds convertibles. T47 to remove and replace the seat belts on my Syclone and Trans Sport.
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05 to newer Dodge/Chrysler-Magnum, Charger, 300 and Challenger driveshaft coupler bolts.
Picked up a t60 today from the truck. Wondering if maybe I should have got the 1/2" drive version. The 1/2" one tho is so stinkin big. If I need to use a 1/2" drve ratchet I can always use an adapter
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Palmer812
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I have a t60 I use to take seat bolts out of some trucks. I also have a 55. I can't remember which vehicles take which one lol
littletoes
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http://chadstoolbox.com/hazet1012-t100torxscrewdriversocket.aspx
Chevy seatbelts are NOT Torx....they are something else-not torx-plus either. I have a couple of them, that I picked up from the Snap-On truck years ago...broke the first one I bought with the Snappy truck driver standing there. Told him it would break too....he didn't believe me!
Chevy seatbelts are NOT Torx....they are something else-not torx-plus either. I have a couple of them, that I picked up from the Snap-On truck years ago...broke the first one I bought with the Snappy truck driver standing there. Told him it would break too....he didn't believe me!
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Its actually T47. GM specific torx size.
http://chadstoolbox.com/hazet1012-t100torxscrewdriversocket.aspx
Chevy seatbelts are NOT Torx....they are something else-not torx-plus either. I have a couple of them, that I picked up from the Snap-On truck years ago...broke the first one I bought with the Snappy truck driver standing there. Told him it would break too....he didn't believe me!
They are indeed Torx but are a unique T47 size. Usually not included in most Torx sets but available separately from Snap On. Never seen them used anywhere but on GM vehicles.
QtrHorse13
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Seatbelt screws tend to be a plus torx tool as in T55 Plus for Ford. They are not T55. Although a T55 will work, it may tear up the bolt because it does not fit correctly.
Well that explains why I always seem to have some difficulty with these. So where would you get the perfect tool cause it actually drives me nuts when my bit gets damaged if I'm not absolutely perfectly seated and paying attention. Thanks!
QtrHorse13
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I bought mine from a Snap-On truck that I saw at a restaurant one day. Most of the tool trucks will have them and I know you can order them online. I could not find one locally at places like Sears or auto parts stores but that was 8 years ago when I bought mine.
littletoes
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Sorry man! Nope they ain't.....I have a T45, T50, T55, etc. and the "lobes" on all those are thinner. The TX500 that is used for GM specific seat-belts are much heavier like Torx Plus or TP.
The GM "specific" is its OWN identity.
Guess I need to post a couple of pic's???
Snap-On may have it listed as "T47", but if you look at the lobes, it ain't no "Torx".
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n8n
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The only one I've personally run across, my socket wouldn't fit - oil filter right angle adapter for a Jeep Cherokee XJ 4.0. Had to use an allen wrench type torx tool to get it off (and a long piece of pipe...)
pjw1326
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Don't know if it applies to you guys in the states but Vauxhall use T60 on the Flywheels of there diesels...as do newer Ford Transits..
littletoes
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Looks just like both of mine 90zcar-I have one from the mid 80's and one from the late 80's. The old one says "FTX500" & the newer one says "FTX500E".
Both are Snappy's and are identical in appearance.
If I was to give any advice on buying Torx tools, I would strongly suggest buying the Snappy Gold versions.
I haven't found any tougher, and others break a LOT. Maybe the Wiha's or Bondhus are just as tough, but they are even harder to get than the Snappy's.
Both are Snappy's and are identical in appearance.
If I was to give any advice on buying Torx tools, I would strongly suggest buying the Snappy Gold versions.
I haven't found any tougher, and others break a LOT. Maybe the Wiha's or Bondhus are just as tough, but they are even harder to get than the Snappy's.
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shamrock12
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I'm betting that T47 "torx" is actually a torx plus which have rounded corners.
It just happen to fall under the regular torx category rather than torx plus
It just happen to fall under the regular torx category rather than torx plus
The difference between the E ending on bit sockets, as I understand it, is the way the bit is secured to the sockets. The older style snapon bit sockets had a roll pin going through the side of the socket to secure the bit.
The E ending are the newer versions, where the bit swedges (not sure if that's the right word) into the socket. I like the newer E ones, as the bits are in there firm without the play that some of the older ones have. I've noticed my truck guy just replaces the whole socket/bit to the E-series when I warranty a broken/twisted bit socket from the roll pin days.
As for the T47, it is GM only, probably a plus profile, but is generally listed in regular torx catalog listings. I have a FTX500 and the bit clearly says T47 on it.
If you go to their catalog, a search for the ftx500 gets you a ftx47e. They are the same thing.
The gold torx bits are "heavy duty removal" and yes are worth the price of admission. The way my snapon guy put it - the regular grey bits will fail before ruining your fastener, and the gold ones will ruin your fastener before the bit will deform. So if you're working on torx head screws that are difficult to replace, use the grey bits.
That all being said, I think I need to get a torx plus set, because a couple of my GM era Saab Torx screws seem to be a loose fit with my torx drivers.
jimmybread
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I have both t55 and t60. And i know i bought them separately only because i needed them. I believe the t60 is for the hubs on my 03 cavalier. Can't remember why i got the t55.
mrjaw14
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I used a T55 on the front brakes of my silverado. they were a ***** to get lose. I broke two T55's trying to get it loose. Does anyone use an impact driver, not a balls-to-the-wall impact, to get large torx stuff loose, or are you guys just using a ratchet?
Dirty Diesels
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Sometimes use the impact driver, just depends on how tight the bolt is. Torx on brake calipers & pinch bolts are the worse 1's for it & I've broke a few T50's & T55's before, it doesn't matter what make the Torx socket drivers/bit drivers are, they all twist & break, but I have found that Snap-On & Mac seem to make the strongest 1's.
Dirty Diesels
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I'm betting that T47 "torx" is actually a torx plus which have rounded corners.
It just happen to fall under the regular torx category rather than torx plus
No there is a normal (regular) Torx T47, it's a GM speciality size for door hinge bolts.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/item.asp?P65=&tool=all&item_ID=636916&group_ID=674869&store=uk&dir=catalog
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No it's not.....take a moment and look at the corners. The t47 does have more slightly rounded corners.
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Dirty Diesels
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It's been around long before torx plus came along !.
Which has me bring up this picture again
On the left is a t47 and on the right is a t50.
Yes it's called a torx bit and yes it's been out longer than t-plus most likely existed(don't know my dates when tplus came out lol)
But besides all that it's clear as day that the t47 is it's own breed
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On the left is a t47 and on the right is a t50.
Yes it's called a torx bit and yes it's been out longer than t-plus most likely existed(don't know my dates when tplus came out lol)
But besides all that it's clear as day that the t47 is it's own breed
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KCT_Jordan
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Which has me bring up this picture again
On the left is a t47 and on the right is a t50.
Yes it's called a torx bit and yes it's been out longer than t-plus most likely existed(don't know my dates when tplus came out lol)
But besides all that it's clear as day that the t47 is it's own breed
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I believe Torx Plus (tplus) came out around 1990.
MG11068
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I had to use a T55 and a breaker bar to get the caliper bolts out of my F250. The first time I took them out I had to use the breaker bar all the way out because the bolts had thread locker on them. My thinking is that an impact wouldn't help under those conditions. But I could be wrong.
Bill Ramsey
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Also used a T55 on my Silverado calipers recently. They were tight, but no match for my new Proto 24" 1/2"-drive breaker bar.
