This didn't quite turn out exactly as I had envisioned. I would have liked to get the trailer more vertical so there was less or no load to suspend. The trailer is just too long though. Does anyone know if it is okay to leave a load suspended on a chain hoist? I'm planning on installing some type of safety mechanism in case the chain hoist failed...
Trailer Storage With Chain Hoist, Am I Crazy?
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BD1
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What about removing the coupler if it is bolted ? Looks like the tongue is bolted, maybe drill additional holes and relocate toward rear of trailer ? Or just on bolt the tongue ?
As for the chain hoist, that really is not the correct recommended use . A come along would be the correct tool or a electric winch mounted on floor and a ****** block on top .
As for the chain hoist, that really is not the correct recommended use . A come along would be the correct tool or a electric winch mounted on floor and a ****** block on top .
Jawn
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How about a swing-a-way tongue? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B002IVALW6/?tag=atomicindus08-20
That'll let it fit upright.
That'll let it fit upright.
Randy in Maine
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Or a removable tongue like this?
http://www.outdoorplay.com/Malone-Retractable-Tongue-Kit-Storage-st.jpg
http://www.outdoorplay.com/Malone-Retractable-Tongue-Kit-Storage-st.jpg
Agree, as long as the chain hoist does not pull out of the ceiling it should be fine.
Yep, that's actually what I did after I posted that. I shortened it about 12". I still can't stand it up vertical, but it's a lot better now.
Great idea!
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Chain falls are for vertical loads, whereas come along are for angled loads. Ask any pipe fitter that works industrial, and he should tell you the same thing. I have stored a small motorcycle trailer in a similar fashion using a chain fall as a vertical hoist. Never had an issue. If you are worried about it falling, put a secondary hoist on it, or find a way to fasten it to the wall after it is lifted. When I did mine, I had no safety, which was probably dumb. At the time I had no kids or animals, and I was the only one ever in the garage. Once you get this all figured out, please update this thread. Thanks, and good luck!
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nadogail
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Sounds like you have been given good advice.
I say that because that is what I think you should have been told.
I say that because that is what I think you should have been told.
matt_i
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A chain hoist, be it lever or endless chain like a chain fall is designed to be operated at the stamped load capacity in overhead rigging. So it must have a design factor (safety factor in it). I didn't read a capacity, I'd guess 1000 lbs, but the hoist itself is not going to fail unless its been mistreated.
As far as what direction you can use a chain or a hoist, how does it even know? Its just designed to put tension on the chain! The only compelling reason not to use a chainfall in a direction other than vertical is that the endless loop chain gets tangled up. Try pulling a disabled vehicle onto a trailer with a chainfall sometime and you will see that this indeed works but the ergonomics completely *****.
The chainfall used vertically, will be at least 10x faster and maybe even 20x faster than a lever hoist to pull the load up from the floor.
Relative to the OP's question: I would worry more about the support. Anything built from wood with lag bolts or deck screws is going to give up long before the hoist does.
As far as what direction you can use a chain or a hoist, how does it even know? Its just designed to put tension on the chain! The only compelling reason not to use a chainfall in a direction other than vertical is that the endless loop chain gets tangled up. Try pulling a disabled vehicle onto a trailer with a chainfall sometime and you will see that this indeed works but the ergonomics completely *****.
The chainfall used vertically, will be at least 10x faster and maybe even 20x faster than a lever hoist to pull the load up from the floor.
Relative to the OP's question: I would worry more about the support. Anything built from wood with lag bolts or deck screws is going to give up long before the hoist does.
BD1
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It may out last him but not designed for a sideways pull , only vertical.
1.3 Operating Procedures
The hoist lifts and lowers the rated load in a controlled manner when a manual force is applied to the hand
chain. The hoist is equipped with a brake, which sustains and controls the rated load when the hoist is being
operated in either direction.
The manual chain hoists are for lifting and lowering. The use of the hoists for pulling or side pulling is not allowed because the chain guides and positioning of other parts are not designed for this type of operation.
From R&M hoists, http://www.rmhoist.com/files/public/documents/R&M_EZ_Lift_Manual_Products_Manual.pdf
As mentioned a come along is the proper tool.
sberry
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That's not really side loading, this load is so low its rather irrelevant. And most fitters don't know **** about rigging,,, hahaha
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BDT/NWMN
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Take a look at the design of some folding trailers that have the rear stands, and folding tongue..
Beemer533
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I think this is being way over-thought... He's not holding up 3 tons from falling over.
That chainfall will be fine. As Scotty mentions I would just add a couple eyebolts into 2 different studs on the wall and run some safety chains or cables and stop thinking about it.
That chainfall will be fine. As Scotty mentions I would just add a couple eyebolts into 2 different studs on the wall and run some safety chains or cables and stop thinking about it.
BDT/NWMN
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It may not fall down... I would be far more concerned with the ceremony of raising and lowering it.... OK,, upon a closer look; I see the handheld remote control with the ten foot cord..
Vegaman_Dan
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10 kw diesel generator running a hydraulic pump and a 12 foot 20 ton ram should do it. use 6" I beams to be run through the trailer chassis to secure it to the wall using heavy welds staggered every 4" using only Lincoln branded welders. Preferably build a concrete abutment to surround three sides.
Or... toss a chain around that thing and snug it to the wall so it doesn't tip over and call it good.
Or... toss a chain around that thing and snug it to the wall so it doesn't tip over and call it good.