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swduncan

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They used a tamper-proof fastener head for a drain plug?

Does this strike anyone else as sort of, well, adversarial on the part of the manufacturer?
 

TruckTech

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They used a tamper-proof fastener head for a drain plug?

Does this strike anyone else as sort of, well, adversarial on the part of the manufacturer?

Were talking VW here.....


Im curious as to what Detroit Diesel uses them on. I think I also saw something similar to this in another techs toolbox for mercedes flywheels, but I could be wrong.

Wait... I may have just answered my own question.
 

94yj

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i work on detroits daily and have never seen any part that needed this tool anyone know what it fits on a det eng ?

Were talking VW here.....


Im curious as to what Detroit Diesel uses them on. I think I also saw something similar to this in another techs toolbox for mercedes flywheels, but I could be wrong.

Wait... I may have just answered my own question.
 

volvo420coupe

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TAMPERPROOF triple square?!? This was just brought up as a joke in another thread, I would like to see a picture. VW is one I would expect to see it from though. I once encountered a british standard sized allen bolt on the drainplug of a rolls royce rear axle plug.
 

Diesel-Mech

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i work on detroits daily and have never seen any part that needed this tool anyone know what it fits on a det eng ?
I'm going to guess that its something found on the new DD15, I sure have never seen one on a 60 series.:lol_hitti
 
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metal1313

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arent they the same thing as tamper proof torx bits? it they are they hold the top on my bronco.. well the did until i replaced them with hex bolts
 

volvo420coupe

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Not the same as torx, its like an allen bolt only 12 points instead of 6 and the corners are at 90 degrees instead of 120 like a traditional 12 point. And of course now they have the tamperproof variation with the peg/hole in the middle.
 

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i have a friend that works at the local VW dealership(soon to be crazy busy with the new plant being made)
he says an oil change on all the vws and audi's are super expensive because of those little turd bolts...said the techs have to buy about 5k worth of tools before they can even touch a car...and those are vw specific...sheesh
 

Tool Pants

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I have a 5 speed Boxster that uses a modified VW/Audi transmission. Here is the Hazet version of the 16 mm triple square anti-tamper. The allen bit is for the fill plug.
 

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Moose-LandTran

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The tamperproof M16 triple square bit it used on some VW-Audi GEARBOX drainplug. To stop stupid people from draining the gearbox instead of the engine oil. Most need a 17mm hex driver though, i think all VW-Audi longitudinal gearboxes need the triple square bit. ALL VW-Audi oil drain plugs are 19mm hexes.

i have a friend that works at the local VW dealership(soon to be crazy busy with the new plant being made)
he says an oil change on all the vws and audi's are super expensive because of those little turd bolts...said the techs have to buy about 5k worth of tools before they can even touch a car...and those are vw specific...sheesh

Tell your friend he's either talking out his *** or doing everything the shop manual way, with the all factory tools. I used to work for a VW-Audi specialist and never needed many specialist tools, use your head and you can get arond needing too many.

If he finds draining/changing oil too challenging, maybe he should consider a different career.
 
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