Trusses for Pole Barn

[karoc]

Guys with this project turning into a DIY I am now researching trusses. The sizes seems to be in 2' increments say 32',34' and so on. My barn build at first I was sizing it to match the 3' rib panels to come out even,which I was going to make it 33'x72' but I now see that trusses won't work unless special order I guess which means price increase. So going to match barn to normal sizes truss but am wondering about how much price increase would be to go from say 32' to a 34'? Which these will be a 4/12 pitch,just for giggles and grins I google price found that 32' w/4/12 pitch is 200.00. There is only one lumber yard in Hemphill Tx so I don't know how to go about ordering and how to price shop since there is only one lumber yard in area. Please educate me little in this area of trusses and sizes and maybe pricing. There is a Home Depot about hrs drive but 32 plus' is kinda long for a 16' trailer

 

[DJF3]

" My barn build at first I was sizing it to match the 3' rib panels to come out even,"

I'm assuming you are using metal roofing? You can overlap an extra rib or two to make the metal come out to where you want it.

 

[mike93lx]

If you don't have options to price shop, you are kind of stuck. You could call a yard a little out of the area to see what their price would be as a comparison point and maybe they'll compete to get the business.

Don’t even think about picking up those trusses on your trailer. They need to be delivered. Besides the length, they will be floppy and need to be supported on a deck

 

[CraigStu]

I think your local lumber yard will be able to order trusses from a supplier. I don't think you will have much choice unless you build them yourself. Any other supplier will have to truck them further which would probably eat up any better price for the trusses themselves. More Google will come up w/ some pricing so you can get a ballpark $ for comparison. Maybe you will find one who includes shipping but I'd want a substantial price advantage to deal w/ someone over the web vs your local guys who you can go to if there is a problem.

 

[kj_mustang]

Simple google search found me two for you to contact. Get a quote including delivery.

http://textruss.com/AreasWeService/State-TEXAS/

https://www.alliedtruss.com/areas-we-service/

 

[rok_hunter]

Depending on your truss design you may have 2x6 runners that you can screw the sheet metal to, on whatever spacing you need for your panels. That's how mine was built.

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[nadogail]

Sometimes I hire work out, not because I can't do it myself, but so if a mistake is made I can blame someone else.

 

[karoc]

Thanks for all the suggestions guys, nice bldg roc guessing that you have 2x6 purlins. I like the ideal there not having to need so many trusses. Well guys I reach out to Allied and the ask couple questions.One being how much over hang which I forgot told them 12" then next question is what kind of roof. Which I ask for two options,one being with 1/2 decking and one without the decking just the metal. I did not know about that being a consideration. But anyway the sales lady is working on price for 16 trusses. I hope I don't pass out when I get the cost.

 

[OneOfEm]

Depending on your truss design you may have 2x6 runners that you can screw the sheet metal to, on whatever spacing you need for your panels. That's how mine was built.

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I used similar metal trusses, but had them add clips to the bottoms as well so I could attach a ceiling.

 

[mike93lx]

Decking will make it a lot quieter during rain, if that is a consideration

 

[karoc]

Guys, I got couple prices from Allied and I won't be doing the 1/2 decking since it shot the price way up there. But the sales lady said that if go with more of a pitch then the cost would go down some. I was wanting the 4/12 to make it little easier to walk and work,but may have to change pitch for the decking if I go that route. Boy the price is getting up there, I may be sticking with the spray foam and just metal for the roof. But you guys with steel trusses,what size shop do ya'll have?

 

[cj7jeep81]

I have a steel roof, and rain is not a problem, but I do have 2" fiberglass insulation between the panel and the purlins (came in 4' wide rolls). Definitely call around, I used a highly recommended lumber yard that pretty much specializes in pole barns. They are about an hour or so away, but very competitive pricing. One thing to also keep in mind for number of panels is your overhang (like you mentioned). My building is 40x64 (gable on the 40' end) with 1' overhang. That makes the total roof 66' long (64+1+1), which is exactly 22 panels. They will cut the panels to whatever length you need (again, including the overhang).

 

[Flathead Youngin']

I'm liking these metal trusses. Any details: brands, pricing, etc?

 

[karoc]

Good morning, well as somewhat of a learning experience I reach out to those Truss Company and ask for quote. I also ask for a quote from the one and only lumber yard in Hemphill. The lumber yard in Hemphill I had ask first cause I want to try and keep it local and maybe will be buying my lumber from them for the build. To keep it all the same like apples to apples. The local was half the price as the other two,which I could assume dang there's one heck of a markup fby other truss companys or something is not right. Two other companys send me quote with a drawing of their trusses and size material like 2x6's. The local lumber yard did not do that,they just sent a quote with cost and brief description like Wooden Trusses w/Steel Plates SPAN 32-0-0 Pitch 4.5 So OK this is small town lumber yard and I really like that but I am wondering how the price is 1/2 of what others are. I reach out to another member and ask about this which he brought up a good point and that is does it have an engineers stamp on it. Today will be asking that question. Guys I know that prices are all over the place but with a 32' span and a 12" over hang there should not be that much difference for a 4/12 pitch and only metal roof. For 110 ea is this a deal that is to good to be true?

 

[cj7jeep81]

Good morning, well as somewhat of a learning experience I reach out to those Truss Company and ask for quote. I also ask for a quote from the one and only lumber yard in Hemphill. The lumber yard in Hemphill I had ask first cause I want to try and keep it local and maybe will be buying my lumber from them for the build. To keep it all the same like apples to apples. The local was half the price as the other two,which I could assume dang there's one heck of a markup fby other truss companys or something is not right. Two other companys send me quote with a drawing of their trusses and size material like 2x6's. The local lumber yard did not do that,they just sent a quote with cost and brief description like Wooden Trusses w/Steel Plates SPAN 32-0-0 Pitch 4.5 So OK this is small town lumber yard and I really like that but I am wondering how the price is 1/2 of what others are. I reach out to another member and ask about this which he brought up a good point and that is does it have an engineers stamp on it. Today will be asking that question. Guys I know that prices are all over the place but with a 32' span and a 12" over hang there should not be that much difference for a 4/12 pitch and only metal roof. For 110 ea is this a deal that is to good to be true?

You'll really need to get the specs. Did both places spec for the same truss spacing? The cheaper one may need to be on 24" centers, while the more expensive may be on 48", making the cost a wash. Also need to know what load ratings they are going to carry, and make sure you are comparing apples to apples and getting what you want/need.

 

[karoc]

Good point CJ, I did and all space the same on 5' centers for metal roof only. I am asking the local lumber yard to provide more information and if these have the engineers stamp on them. I like the savings but I don't want no problems,this is my last go round

 

[Kevin54]

Use standard trusses then add strapping to the roof for the metal panels.

 

[joe_padavano]

I'm surprised this is even an issue. I just went to my local Home Depot contractor desk and ordered trusses built to my dimensional requirements. They do all the engineering for local snow/wind loads, span, etc. I've erected several pole structures on my farm. 24ft trusses were about $100 each delivered. 36 ft trusses were about $200 each delivered. These were for roofs in the 4:12 and 5:12 slope range. This was completely painless. Don't make it harder than it needs to be.

 

[gagecalman]

Are you doing any type of ceiling?
I've read that trusses should be designed for a ceiling load if one is being installed. Don't know if that applies.

 

[karoc]

gagecalman not from the trusses, the shop area will be open but the living space I will be building either 8'or a 10' interior walls that will support the ceiling.
Joe,right now I have price for 100ea from one then the other is 200 ea with both having span of 32' If I could get 36' for 200 I would go that route since I am seriously thinking about DIYing this project which would allow me to make it little bigger.

 

[karoc]

Well guys I just got a quote for 36'er's and it only increase by about 300.00 so this is fantastic

 

[Marctrees]

karoc - You are going into a totally unnecessary rabbithole.

Why not first look into the option I gave you ?

I highly suggest you see my building, then go from there.

Marc

 

[karoc]

Sad but true Marctrees,I did ask them if they service Hemphill and they do not. It was just a one line question cause I remember that wanted to talk with you first but they give me a one line answer."Sorry we do not" So the DIY project is back on for now,but the rabbithole is kinda working its magic. With not much increase in cost for trusses I was wanting the shop to grow little,but the slab would be the killer for me since cost will also go up. Once my place is cleared from the previous owners(bank foreclosure) going to give East Tx Shop Builder to come by and give me a hard number. Then going to compare it to what I have come up with to see difference. My time frame that I have is 2 yrs so I believe I have time as long as I still have JOB to turn this into a DIY project if contractor is way out there. He is in Rusk Tx which is north where I'm at so we are not far apart.My plan is to keep it simple and have living quarters just enough for two people but I would like for the shop space to be big enough that I could have a large working table in middle that I can get to all sides.But that's where the dream comes into play. I have woodworking equipment,and metal working equipment that I want to be able to get to.Right now my garage is about 1500 sq ft but 8' ceilings. In my little world the shop will be the star of the show and the living quarters will be playing second fiddle. If I can do this as DIY then the 36' may be will become a reality. Fingers cross
Dang I been reading all your post but I think you may work at night cause your times are at midnight. I say when there is no traffic or airplane noises but your on the outskirts of Hemphill so no such thing. HaHa I be so glad when I get up there

 

[Marctrees]

karoc- They DO serve Hemphill from their Waskom office... They built mine and afew others at least here a year ago... assume they still do.

You are welcome to come see the work.

Our building was start to finish including concrete completed in 3 workdays over 3 weeks total time at an unbeatable price....but like I said w a few managable caveats.

Marc

 

[Marctrees]

I'm retired, Night Owl, haven't gone to bed yet, available late afternoons / eves on, leave a voice mail.

Marc

 

[karoc]

Good grief,you are night owl.Congrats on being retired I hope to join you in couple yrs

 

[karoc]

Good news today guys, I got an email from the local supplier was told that these trusses will have the engineers stamp so Yahooo

 

[brownbagg]

that doesnt look safe a all

there was a video her that showed a pole barn falling in due to the trusses

 

[mike93lx]

that doesnt look safe a all

there was a video her that showed a pole barn falling in due to the trusses

Due to the trusses? How can a building fall down because of trusses?

 

[karoc]

that doesnt look safe a all

there was a video her that showed a pole barn falling in due to the trusses

What was wrong with trusses, spread was to far? Snow? What is unsafe?

 

[gagecalman]

that doesnt look safe a all

there was a video her that showed a pole barn falling in due to the trusses

Does anyone even know what this reply is related to?

 

[Kevin54]

Are you doing any type of ceiling?
I've read that trusses should be designed for a ceiling load if one is being installed. Don't know if that applies.

Almost all standard trusses on 2' centers are designed for a ceiling load, but not an attic load. And in today's world, at least around my area, they hang 1/2" lightweight drywall for the ceilings.

 

[karoc]

OK I see,the living space will be supporting the ceiling because of the walls that I will be building. The open area is kitchen,living,dinning space will be all one open area with a 10' ceiling height. The two bedrms ,bath rm ,wash rm,etc will probably have either an 8' or maybe 10' ceiling height so the walls will support the ceiling and not the trusses. The shop area will be all open and no ceiling. Guys thanks so much for the questions and the answers,its these discussions that helps so much.I'm sure that I am not the only one who is benefiiting from all this shared information. Thanks so much