Trying to understand what I am working with

[kickass]

Hello to everyone. I came across this wonderful site as I was researching for an epoxy coating in my new home. We will be signing on the new home this 23rd and moving in on the 30th. I have a few questions and wanted to ensure I was going about this correctly. I hope the experts and experienced among you will chip in valuable suggestions and advice. I do work on my cars/SUV and own a track car as well. A DIY project would be my preference unless you folks think I should leave it for the professionals. Oil spills are a regular situation no matter how hard I try. This is the main reason I am looking into the floor coating solutions.

1) I have a 2 car garage that is 20 X 20 and another one car garage that is 10X20. So total of 600 SqFt that I am working with. I have been contemplating getting the Armorpoxy 600sqft kit per the link below:

http://www.armorpoxy.com/mm5/mercha...e=A&Product_Code=AC-KITTC&Category_Code=ACLAD

I plan on using this kit with the following primer as well:

http://www.armorpoxy.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=A&Product_Code=AC-PRIME2GAL-015

Will I need anything else (Chemicals/epoxies etc) apart from these 2 kits for the actual coating process?

2) My 20X20 has 4 poured concrete slabs with a deep groove separating the 4 slabs. Those who started with something like this, did you have to fill in those grooves before you started coating? If so, what did you use? Would it be something like this?

http://www.armorpoxy.com/mm5/mercha...=A&Product_Code=AI-829_2&Category_Code=ACADDL

I don't think the 10X20 has this groove to worry about.

3) The concrete is not smooth. Its not as rough as the driveway, but not as smooth as the garage in my current rental home either. I would hope this is not a problem.

4) I plan on also doing the VSEAL 101 penetrating sealer for the entire driveway so that cleaning and oil drips etc would be easier when discovered. Any product or process recommendations for this?

5) I also plan on getting a MAXJAX garage lift sometime in the future. If that will have any implications on what I do now with the floor, I would like to know that as well.

Thank you all in advance for your time and patience with me while I get this whole situation sorted out.

 

[kwfloors]

As far as the deep grooves, thats up to you. Do you want them or not.

 

[kickass]

I'd rather not have them.

 

[benwah]

Are these deep grooves that you speak of contraction or expansion joints? If that's the case, It is recommended NOT to fill them but a lot of people still do with varying results. Sometimes the coating cracks, sometimes it doesn't.

 

[SunsetsAndFriends]

Hello to everyone. I came across this wonderful site as I was researching for an epoxy coating in my new home. We will be signing on the new home this 23rd and moving in on the 30th. I have a few questions and wanted to ensure I was going about this correctly. I hope the experts and experienced among you will chip in valuable suggestions and advice. I do work on my cars/SUV and own a track car as well. A DIY project would be my preference unless you folks think I should leave it for the professionals. Oil spills are a regular situation no matter how hard I try. This is the main reason I am looking into the floor coating solutions.

1) I have a 2 car garage that is 20 X 20 and another one car garage that is 10X20. So total of 600 SqFt that I am working with. I have been contemplating getting the Armorpoxy 600sqft kit per the link below:

http://www.armorpoxy.com/mm5/mercha...e=A&Product_Code=AC-KITTC&Category_Code=ACLAD

I plan on using this kit with the following primer as well:

http://www.armorpoxy.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=A&Product_Code=AC-PRIME2GAL-015

Will I need anything else (Chemicals/epoxies etc) apart from these 2 kits for the actual coating process?

2) My 20X20 has 4 poured concrete slabs with a deep groove separating the 4 slabs. Those who started with something like this, did you have to fill in those grooves before you started coating? If so, what did you use? Would it be something like this?

http://www.armorpoxy.com/mm5/mercha...=A&Product_Code=AI-829_2&Category_Code=ACADDL

I don't think the 10X20 has this groove to worry about.

3) The concrete is not smooth. Its not as rough as the driveway, but not as smooth as the garage in my current rental home either. I would hope this is not a problem.

4) I plan on also doing the VSEAL 101 penetrating sealer for the entire driveway so that cleaning and oil drips etc would be easier when discovered. Any product or process recommendations for this?

5) I also plan on getting a MAXJAX garage lift sometime in the future. If that will have any implications on what I do now with the floor, I would like to know that as well.

Thank you all in advance for your time and patience with me while I get this whole situation sorted out.

1. Reading the item description, this ArmorPoxy kit gives you 3 gallons of 2 part 100% solids epoxy and a 1 part clear coat. For the money, I suspect the Epoxy-Coat kits would be a better value in terms of coverage and overall thickness. Also, what does "1 part clear coat" mean? I suspect it is less durable than a 2 part clear system.

As far as primer coats, after reading tons of posts about this, I'm a big proponent of primers. One way of priming the surface is to thin a batch of 100% solids epoxy with the appropriate/manufacturer's thinning agent. This thinner coating will penetrate into properly prepared concrete. Otherwise choose a primer that is approved by the epoxy you end up going with.

You might also want to check out Legacy or Versatile Building Products coatings.

http://legacyindustrial.net/cart/

https://www.garagecoatings.com/store/garage-flooring-kits

2. As for filling cracks and expansion joints, from what I've read, you want to use a product that has an elongation factor of 50% or greater. This is a product that I am considering by Versatile Building Products, a polyurea crack/expansion joint filler.

https://www.garagecoatings.com/stor...lyurea-concrete-expansion-joint-filler-detail

The downside to this product is that it requires a 2 cylinder caulk gun which cost $70, so it's not so DIY friendly. On the other hand, Legacy Industrial has a similar product that does not require a special caulk gun. Instead, Scotty from Legacy posted a video showing that the product was mixed and then poured into inexpensive clear ketchup bottles. I forget where that video post is located but maybe Scotty from Legacy will post it here.

3. From all the posts that i have read in the forums, I would not do any less than diamond profiling my concrete for any epoxy coating system that I would put down. The amount of hard work that goes into the application of the epoxy is high enough that having a failure due to lack of concrete preparation is too daunting a prospect for me.

4. I can't really comment on VSeal, except that I have some not so favorable posts about this product. I also read that the company changed ownership and that has had some affect on the customer service. This is just what I have read. You might also try a product called Bio Vee Seal (http://www.epoxyproducts.com/vee4u.html). I have not used this product but read about it. Maybe someone else has used it and can comment.

5. As far as the lift, I would suggest getting the floor coating applied first and then install the lift afterward, especially if you do not need to cut the concrete to install any kind of additional footings for it. This will give you a seamless floor.

This is my 2 cents.

 

[LegacyIndustrial]

Single component, moisture cured urethanes, are excellent products and have largely replaced the two component urethanes.







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