Tube steel garage electrical?

[happyj]

Preparing to build a 30x50x12 shop. Ended up with a tube steel (carport style) garage and will use spray foam for insulation. Will be starting the concrete work October 14th. Since I went with the carport style I had figured I would end up with conduit and LB to install electrical panel. I don't care for the look of them just makes me think it was an afterthought. I was just thinking since I will be using foam insulation I will be running the electrical circuits inside the building. Would it be ok to mount the box on the inside as well? That would allow me to stub the feed line via conduit in the slab. Any thoughts or other options others have done?
Thanks in advance
Happyj
Belfair, Wa. 98528

 

[readhead]

Most service installations require an outside disconnect. A discussion with an electrician or the electrical inspector, if one is involved, would be a good starting point. Things can go the wrong way quickly when you don’t know what you don’t know.

 

[BillK]

What is a "carport style garage" ??? Just curious. Carport or Garage ?

 

[readhead]

Tube steel building.

 

[sparky 1971]

Most service installations require an outside disconnect. A discussion with an electrician or the electrical inspector, if one is involved, would be a good starting point. Things can go the wrong way quickly when you don’t know what you don’t know.

A garage requires a disconnect near the point where the conductors enter the building, but it doesn't have to be outside. A main breaker panel is fine. The outside disconnect rule if for dwellings.

 

[sparky 1971]

Preparing to build a 30x50x12 shop. Ended up with a carport style garage and will use spray foam for insulation. Will be starting the concrete work October 14th. Since I went with the carport style I had figured I would end up with conduit and LB to install electrical panel. I don't care for the look of them just makes me think it was an afterthought. I was just thinking since I will be using foam insulation I will be running the electrical circuits inside the building. Would it be ok to mount the box on the inside as well? That would allow me to stub the feed line via conduit in the slab. Any thoughts or other options others have done?
Thanks in advance
Happyj
Belfair, Wa. 98528

You can put the panel inside.

 

[readhead]

State wide in Colorado and parts of Utah and northern New Mexico require an exterior disconnect on all structures. I have been installing metal buildings in this area for twenty five years. Obviously that is not the case in your area and I don’t know the requirements in the OP’s area. That being said I was only suggesting that he do some research before potentially going down the wrong path.

 

[sparky 1971]

State wide in Colorado and parts of Utah and northern New Mexico require an exterior disconnect on all structures. I have been installing metal buildings in this area for twenty five years. Obviously that is not the case in your area and I don’t know the requirements in the OP’s area. That being said I was only suggesting that he do some research before potentially going down the wrong path.

I'm just going by what the National Electric Code says, I obviously won't know the local amendments for areas I don't work in and the odds are that I will never set foot in Belfair, Wa 98528. That being said, if the OP follows advice from an internet forum instead of making a call to the local building department and gets burned for it, that's on him.

 

[happyj]

Most service installations require an outside disconnect. A discussion with an electrician or the electrical inspector, if one is involved, would be a good starting point. Things can go the wrong way quickly when you don’t know what you don’t know.

Ty redhead, I probably didn't ask the question very well. I have the electrical figured out and blessed with the state. Just wanted to see what y'all thought about running conduit up through the slab like I would in a pole barn or red steel building. On this steel tube building that would mean coming up inside the base rails. Hope that makes sense.

 

[happyj]

Most service installations require an outside disconnect. A discussion with an electrician or the electrical inspector, if one is involved, would be a good starting point. Things can go the wrong way quickly when you don’t know what you don’t know.

Changed title to tube steel building (thanks redhead). Sorry to confuse

 

[happyj]

State wide in Colorado and parts of Utah and northern New Mexico require an exterior disconnect on all structures. I have been installing metal buildings in this area for twenty five years. Obviously that is not the case in your area and I don’t know the requirements in the OP’s area. That being said I was only suggesting that he do some research before potentially going down the wrong path.

No worries readhead I understood the intent. Ty

 

[happyj]

I'm just going by what the National Electric Code says, I obviously won't know the local amendments for areas I don't work in and the odds are that I will never set foot in Belfair, Wa 98528. That being said, if the OP follows advice from an internet forum instead of making a call to the local building department and gets burned for it, that's on him.

Thanks sparky got the locals as well as l&I covered.

 

[readhead]

If you cut the base rail drill and install some kind of anchor bolt within 4" on both sides of the gap.

 

[happyj]

If you cut the base rail drill and install some kind of anchor bolt within 4" on both sides of the gap.

I'm thinking I don't want to cut the base rail. Current thought is all power will run in wall mounted conduit. Yikes, will need to plan for that routing. I do plan to run a few conduits 3-5 180 degrees from the box. I don't want a bunch of conduit stubs scattered around inside the base rail.

 

[dougf]

Don't cut the base rail (ensure your concrete has a step and seal the rail with polyurethane sealant when they put it down), just plan out where you want the electrical and I would place the conduit underground and up into the building before the slab gets poured.

Otherwise you'll be like me (same type of building) and you'll have to come through the side for electrical, wish I would have planned it into my build.

 

[happyj]

Don't cut the base rail (ensure your concrete has a step and seal the rail with polyurethane sealant when they put it down), just plan out where you want the electrical and I would place the conduit underground and up into the building before the slab gets poured.

Otherwise you'll be like me (same type of building) and you'll have to come through the side for electrical, wish I would have planned it into my buildy

Don't cut the base rail (ensure your concrete has a step and seal the rail with polyurethane sealant when they put it down), just plan out where you want the electrical and I would place the conduit underground and up into the building before the slab gets poured.

Otherwise you'll be like me (same type of building) and you'll have to come through the side for electrical, wish I would have planned it into my build.

I will not cut the base rail. I intend to add 1-3" and 2-2" conduits. Figure I will use one for power and another the pull fiber in. I also figured to add another one 5' away to add water when I trench for my wife's greenhouse plumbing. On the slab I am building out same size slab with out the step. My wife likes the look of horizontal so will sit flat against to slab. Is there a sealant you recommend? I had thought I wouldn't need it but since you mention it i am rethinking that. Thanks for the input.

 

[happyj]

Sorry for the double posted quote, I tried to remove it but couldn't figure out how to get rid of it