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strength_and_power

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I have a need to cope some 1” sch40. No crazy angles and I could probably get by with just clamping in a vise but this seems like a good opportunity to get a new tool which is never a bad thing.
What brands have y’all had good luck with?
Thanks in advance
Scott


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i have the JD2 Notch Master and love it. but for just a few cuts i would say the harbor freight version would work fine
 

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I have a JD2 Notch Master as well, great tool.
Swag has a few options for it that makes it even more versatile than before too.
 

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I've built a LOT of tubing parts. Notched thousands of notches.

I have been very happy with the JD² Notch master for the occasional notch. We recently built a roll cage in an RX-7 with it as well as a stainless steel pole arch for a charter fishing boat. I found the Milwaukee Hole Dozer to be the most long lived hole saw. You want to use a good triple reduction corded drill. We burned up a few Milwaukee Fuel cordless drills at the race shop on the notcher. Use a corded drill.

If you are going to do a LOT of notching, an abrasive notcher is very fast and more tune-able. Than a hydraulic bladed deal. When I worked in an off road shop that did mostly tubing, we had a Peddinghaus belt notcher.

Ironworkers and blade style notches are fairly crude, and the tooling is expensive. Its hard to not distort really thin wall tube.

You can also notch tubing with an annular cutter or hole saw in a milling machine. If you have a machine with enough nuts, I have had good luck with large roughing end mills. I used to use a Cincinnati horizontal mill with the tube clamped to the table and the cutter in the horizontal spindle.

Mittler Brothers makes a notcher that uses mill cutters.

The best answer, of course, is a tube laser. But, that requires you to have a CAD drawing, as well as a vendor with a tube laser. We used to get parts cut by the hundreds, all identical notches cut as well as etched bend lines for production bending. It is the most expensive option for small runs, but once you get past the set up fee, the parts get really cheap once you factor in labor.
 

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Take my opinion with a grain of salt as I'm far from proficient working with tubing......

I have a Medford Sync 180 Jr. and so far I really like it. There wasn't much information out there on it, but I liked what I saw. I did a lot of research on notchers before I bought one and it seems like they've all got their pluses and minuses. What I liked about the Sync 180 is the ability whip the arm around to finish a cut from the other side of the tube when the hole saw bottoms out. It also does offset notches if that's important to you. The only real downside is it won't notch bends and is limited to what it can do on square tubing.

I'm not a fabricator, but being around offroad, dr clyde's advice is spot on. Our race shop has one of the Mitler Brothers units he mentions. I've never used the JD2, but a lot of people really like it, and their reputation for quality is stellar.

Assuming you end up with a hole saw style notcher, I'll also second using a good corded 1/2" drill. I'll also caution you that a good drill will break your wrists as it smashes your face into whatever you're working.....
 
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If you already have either a metal chop saw or band saw, give this technique a try. With 1" you really have very little metal to remove.

 

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Just get the manual. It takes a lil *** for sch 40 but it does it. Go the hydro if you do miles of fence/handrails. JD sells more **** hole saw toys.
HYDRAULIC TUBE/PIPE NOTCHER
Schedule 40 "water pipe" or fence rail is pretty soft. If you are not doing a lot, get the manual version LOWBUCK NOTCHER. Much faster than almost anything but the most expensive ones.

rs=w:600,h:600


You need a SOLID (bolted to the floor) stand and a long tube for operating it !
 

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You want to use a good triple reduction corded drill.
These are actually hard to find ! DeWalt makes one, DW245. Milwaukee has a couple. I have an old Craftsman Industrial triple gear reduction. It will practically break your wrist if you are not using the assist handle and the bit get jammed !!

Ironworkers and blade style notches are fairly crude, and the tooling is expensive. Its hard to not distort really thin wall tube.
The LowBuck notcher probably is NOT good on thin aluminum !
 

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You need a SOLID (bolted to the floor) stand and a long tube for operating it !

I bolt mine to my bench and use a handle that is about 2 1/2 feet long. Williams has got the geometry really good on this so it doesn't take as much force as you’d think it does.
 
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I've been using the JMR TN-1000 for about 12 or so years now and I really like it. That being said, short of the Mitler Bros. notcher that uses an end mill (or equivalent) or an abrasive notcher there always seems to be some "touch-up" with any of the hole saw notchers but it is minimal.

I also prefer the Milwaukee Hole Dozers but have also had decent results from the Lenox hole saws if not pushed too awfully hard. I use a Milwaukee Magnum Hole Shooter corded drill and it works great.

I had the Williams Low-Buck notcher like the oldwizard showed above as I bought one from an estate sale and it was junk. I didn't care for it one bit. If you are building a corral or gate and can live with some fitment issues it will be fine and it is fast but way too crude for my liking.
 
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Thanks for all the replies.
I like the simplicity of the mechanical notcher and not having to deal with hole saws, cutting oil etc but it is definitely pricy for the limited use it will see. Also I will be notching both ends of the piece so if I’m thinking right once I notch one end I can advance the tubing and the second cut will complete the first piece and cut the first side of the second piece. If my theory holds true, I would eliminate a sawing step.
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At a local race car shop they have a Bridgeport set up to do nothing but tube notching. They have the sexiest large diameter roughing mills that produce the sexiest notches to some extremely close tolerances. Accuracy is everything right?
 

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I have a need to cope some 1” sch40. No crazy angles and I could probably get by with just clamping in a vise but this seems like a good opportunity to get a new tool which is never a bad thing.
What brands have y’all had good luck with?
Thanks in advance
Scott


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The cheap harbor freight one isnt to bad for the price.
 

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if you are building a bunch of those you could also look into companys that do laser notching. would make it easy :D

Yeah. I used Precision tube laser in Vegas for a prototype, Very reasonable.

Give it shot, might surprise you. They will return your email quick and are super nice guys.

And to answer your question, yes you can do 2 notches at once with your method. There are a lot of ways to jig/fixture/rig a stop for repetitive, "clocked" cuts.
 
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Yeah. I used Precision tube laser in Vegas for a prototype, Very reasonable.



Give it shot, might surprise you. They will return your email quick and are super nice guys.



And to answer your question, yes you can do 2 notches at once with your method. There are a lot of ways to jig/fixture/rig a stop for repetitive, "clocked" cuts.



I just got back from a month in Vegas. Thought a few times about stopping by for some machine **** but work and the pool kept bumping it. Maybe next year.


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strength_and_power

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if you are building a bunch of those you could also look into companys that do laser notching. would make it easy :D



My previous method involved dropping the material off at a friend’s work and he’d cut to length on the band saw and cope the ends in their CNC mill. “ government work” at its finest. Cost me a 12 pack.


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I just got back from a month in Vegas. Thought a few times about stopping by for some machine **** but work and the pool kept bumping it. Maybe next year.


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Yeah that would have been really cool! Love watching the vids of their machine running.

My previous method involved dropping the material off at a friend’s work and he’d cut to length on the band saw and cope the ends in their CNC mill. “ government work” at its finest. Cost me a 12 pack.


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Cant beat that.
 

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I made a ladder out of sch 40 black pipe just using the hole saw type, "ol' joint jigger" to be exact. Not fast, not perfect, but not difficult either... and cheap. Unless you are doing roll cages or something they probably don't need to be all that precise.
 
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