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OP, looks like you are going to have a hard time with this, the box retails at $5,100 so you would be lucky to get $2500 in a private sale. Probably about $100 or more a month in interest too.

You could always try and sell the tools as well, or maybe see if the driver would take the entire package and pay off Snap On himself.
 
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Interesting.........Sounds like most are attorneys here.....and knows the can do's and can't do's. The OP should contact an attorney where HE resides to get the info he is looking for.
 

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Interesting.........Sounds like most are attorneys here.....and knows the can do's and can't do's. The OP should contact an attorney where HE resides to get the info he is looking for.

Your advice is to send someone who can't make payments on a toolbox worth a few grand is to goto a lawyer? There's is NOTHING that lawyer can do he cannot do on his own. Nobody needs an attorney to make a few phone calls. And no I'm not a lawyer - and this is not an $800,000 house, or a $40,000 car.. Let's no turn everything in here into a Supreme Court battle shall we?
 

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OP, looks like you are going to have a hard time with this, the box retails at $5,100 so you would be lucky to get $2500 in a private sale. Probably about $100 or more a month in interest too.

You could always try and sell the tools as well, or maybe see if the driver would take the entire package and pay off Snap On himself.

i bought my first snap on box KRA2422 black off repo for 2k from the driver that had to repo it. Owing what the op does i doubt there is going to be much help for him from the driver.

On another note, if I ever decide to get another snap on box I will probably get a 2422. Perfect working height great layout and smooth quiet rolling. I really liked that box.
 

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I think we need to know a few details.

1. Are you currently employed?
2. How much did the box cost?
3. How much do you owe still?
4. What caused the issue in the first place?

Without a few details, there's no way to assess the situation you're in fully.

Did you get talked into Snap-On by co-workers or a dealer?
 

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I think we need to know a few details.

1. Are you currently employed?
2. How much did the box cost?
3. How much do you owe still?
4. What caused the issue in the first place?

Without a few details, there's no way to assess the situation you're in fully.

Did you get talked into Snap-On by co-workers or a dealer?

Go back and read the thread.
 

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Reading through this I'm guessing most people who are saying the boxes cannot be repossessed have never bought on or seen a snap on contract. The contract you sign explicitly states that they have a secured interest in your box and that they will send a representative to take the box if your in default. And I would trust their lawyers who wrote the contract. Than a few guys on a forum. Just pay it off and sell it. Afterwards.
 

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Laws are definitely different from state to state but in Virginia where i reside they repo stuff all the time. If the cops come they tell the dealer to go ahead and take what they are after and yes I have have seen it more than once. Selling a tool box to somebody else will not save it here unless the payment continue because new boxes show up and the dealers get looking when they didn't sell it and that serial number will get it pulled if payments are not up to date no question about it in Virginia. What ever money you paid to the original debtor/owner that defaulted is gone and no box either. You need to talk to the dealer and see if he can move it to somebody else and maybe only take a small bath but those long term tool box payments with killer interest is not much fun but people do it everyday
 

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I do not have any of the paperwork with me at the moment, but I believe my remaining credit balance is about $4,900. At the time of purchase, I owed a little money on tools - when he opened my credit account for the box, he said he "rolled everything into one account".



I traded in an old cart for $500. No additional down payment.

Thanks for your replies.

:shocking::shocking: $5400 for a Classic?!! WITH INTEREST!??

Holy moly man, what were you thinkin'!?


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Seriously, sorry for the whole scenario, and I wish you the best.
 

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You may want to read post #6...

I did, and I guess it depends on what "a little owed on tools" means to you.

Regardless, $5000 even, for a 18 gauge box is ridiculous. The Craftsman professional boxes are heavier built than that.:spit:
 
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No, they can't. They can't repossess it, and they most certainly can't take it away from a 3rd party that purchases it. The most they could do is take you to court and try to get a judgement against you that allows them to take the box from you in lieu of your debt in part or full.

This nonsense needs to stop being spread as if gospel.

They can and they will. Maybe you need to read the contract a little better.

An UNSECURED loan they would have to take you to court to sue you for the value. A SECURED loan which is what a Snap-on tool box will fall under is a collateral loan.

Just like when you get a loan for a car or a house (and spare us the title on the tool box) both of those are collateral aka secured loans.
 

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This box was not repossessed. This box, and it's contents, were stolen, with the assistance of the shop.
This, even if the company can reclaim the box to take the rest of the tools is theft no two ways about it. If Snap on dealers can pull this **** the first thing you do is get the box and the contents to a secure location, it isn't possible to negotiate any options if they can simply swipe it all from you and leave you even worse off.

Snap On can repo it without going to court.First thing you do when purchasing these newer Snap On tool boxes is find the serial number and have it checked if there is money still owed on them.You don't want it if there is money still owed on it.
I wouldn't really see the issue here. Do the dealers go around checking these serial numbers whenever they see a new box pop up? I've considered a used truck box off craigslist and can't imagine a dealer showing up at my door trying to reclaim something. That's their issue to work out with the original purchaser.

Worse case scenario, a 5k dollar unpaid debt on your credit isn't really that worse then a 2-3k unpaid debt and as someone else mentioned above, sometimes the collection companies negotiate better. If you can't work a feasible deal with the company you'll still need the box in the future, don't sell it cheap, just to have slightly less debt you still can't make a payment on. Your credit will be equally screwed either way. Only sell it or turn it in if doing so will let you create a navigable way through the mess.
 

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Add for sale .Got a job and need a box? Take over payments!
Run that by the driver? Just a thought.
 
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For the life of my can't see how anyone would pay that kind of money for any box, that being said I'm not a lawyer by any means but I would think that you could press them for a court order of repossession (I wouldn't hand over **** without paperwork). I also know for a fact they would have to get a court order to come into your personal property (garage/storage) to repo it! If it was me I would try to get the dealer to let some other sucker pick up the payments, if that didn't work I would call corporate and offer a less than owed payment plan and even offer to surrender the box for a lower payoff amount.
 

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For the life of my can't see how anyone would pay that kind of money for any box.

Could say the same thing about many of the vehicles on the road. At least the tool box wont be a pile of rust ready for the crusher in 10-15 years :)
 

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For the life of my can't see how anyone would pay that kind of money for any box, that being said I'm not a lawyer by any means but I would think that you could press them for a court order of repossession (I wouldn't hand over **** without paperwork). I also know for a fact they would have to get a court order to come into your personal property (garage/storage) to repo it! If it was me I would try to get the dealer to let some other sucker pick up the payments, if that didn't work I would call corporate and offer a less than owed payment plan and even offer to surrender the box for a lower payoff amount.

A court order is not required for repossession of a item with a secured loan. Now people can get a court order to then get law enforcemenf to assist in the repossession to prevent a violent situation.
 

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Go back and read the thread.

I did read the thread, thanks. He never states what the cause of his problems are. How many people have two jobs? He doesn't offer many details and without any other details, we don't have much in the way of advice we can offer.

Good luck on your situation.
 

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Laws are definitely different from state to state but in Virginia where i reside they repo stuff all the time. If the cops come they tell the dealer to go ahead and take what they are after and yes I have have seen it more than once. Selling a tool box to somebody else will not save it here unless the payment continue because new boxes show up and the dealers get looking when they didn't sell it and that serial number will get it pulled if payments are not up to date no question about it in Virginia. What ever money you paid to the original debtor/owner that defaulted is gone and no box either. You need to talk to the dealer and see if he can move it to somebody else and maybe only take a small bath but those long term tool box payments with killer interest is not much fun but people do it everyday
In some states its a civil matter and the leo cant force the issue unless theres a court order. Same with cars.

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All good points. Please remember them the next time you see a thread full of people telling the next young guy it's a "good investment" into his future to NOT buy anything but snap on, cause everything else is a waste of money, and. - it's more expensive to buy things twice than it is to do it the first time.. I'll keep my eyes open in the next thread that pops up..

This is no different than buying a motorcycle, truck, sports car etc. people buy stuff and fall on hard times everyday.
 

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This is no different than buying a motorcycle, truck, sports car etc. people buy stuff and fall on hard times everyday.

No, that never happens anywhere else but with sleazy scummy tool truck dealers. They are only out to screw you, and have no interest in helping you, only lining their pockets.

We know car dealerships are famous for their willingness to be more then fair to their customers.They never charge high interest, add on warranties, or try to pull as much cash out of the customers pocket as they can.

But yes, sometimes bad things happen to good people, and can affect you for days, months, and years.
 

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Ok so what law can you provide that says otherwise?

All I hear from you is conjecture....

Right back at you, chief.

Keep on believing that private property can be illegally entered and a toolbox or tools can be involuntarily repossessed by the truck dealer without a court order granting them this.

Keep on believing that they can somehow reassign the debt of the original purchaser to a 3rd party who purchases said toolbox or tools, and that they somehow have a lien on these untitled toolboxes or tools, and can then illegally enter private property and involuntarily repossess them from this 3rd party.

It's your fantasy world, own it.
 
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This thread has turned out exactly how I thought it would.

OP, you are getting what you paid for, good, bad, and ugly advice.
 

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possession_of_stolen_goods

I have a contract at my office, I will post the relevant parts, if this thread is not gone when I get there.

Nobody stole anything. They defaulted on a revolving credit agreement.

By this idiotic logic, someone that defaults on their Best Buy card "stole" the Playstation they bought as a gift, and the gift recipient is in possession of stolen goods.

No. Just, no.
 

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Kythri, you are assuming it is a revolving credit agreement. It is not. It is not in any way like a credit card, which your Best Buy reference is.
 

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The person most likely to steal the box is your Snap On rep.

You should not turn in the box unless you have a binding agreement with Snap On credit which clearly indicates the amount of credit they are giving you for it.

Say you give it to him and he gives you a receipt but it does not indicate a $ amount or no receipt.

He will sell it but you can not confirm for how much so he has all the cards.

Or perhaps with no receipt it falls off his truck when $ fall into his hands.

You must know someone who is a lawyer or if not try to find someone who gives free credit counseling advice as they are imminently more qualified than myself or any other non qualified person on this forum.

Even if other members are lawyers if they're not in your home state they will not be intimately familiar with the laws of your state.

Contact Snap On direct initially by phone to establish a relationship then switch to email you need written correspondence.

Make them provide you with a copy of your signed agreement. It's possible they don't have it and if that's the case they have nothing. This does happen routinely but it won't stop them from jacking you up.

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It's probably in your best interest to consider selling the box yourself as you have more interest than Snap On at obtaining fairer value.

Once it's in their possession you loose.

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Kythri, you are assuming it is a revolving credit agreement. It is not. It is not in any way like a credit card, which your Best Buy reference is.

It's not a secured loan, or a loan of any kind. It's a revolving credit account, or a line of credit. Either way, whatever Snap-on wants to call it, it's not a situation where they can just walk in and take that which was purchased with the credit.
 

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This, even if the company can reclaim the box to take the rest of the tools is theft no two ways about it. If Snap on dealers can pull this **** the first thing you do is get the box and the contents to a secure location, it isn't possible to negotiate any options if they can simply swipe it all from you and leave you even worse off.


I wouldn't really see the issue here. Do the dealers go around checking these serial numbers whenever they see a new box pop up? I've considered a used truck box off craigslist and can't imagine a dealer showing up at my door trying to reclaim something. That's their issue to work out with the original purchaser.

Worse case scenario, a 5k dollar unpaid debt on your credit isn't really that worse then a 2-3k unpaid debt and as someone else mentioned above, sometimes the collection companies negotiate better. If you can't work a feasible deal with the company you'll still need the box in the future, don't sell it cheap, just to have slightly less debt you still can't make a payment on. Your credit will be equally screwed either way. Only sell it or turn it in if doing so will let you create a navigable way through the mess.

That one I mentioned for sale on FB,the seller never disclosed that he owed money on it at first.That burned the person that was going to buy it.
 

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That one I mentioned for sale on FB,the seller never disclosed that he owed money on it at first.That burned the person that was going to buy it.

That money owed is of no pertinence to a would-be buyer.

The WORST Snap-on could do is refuse warranty service to the new owner (assuming that they run the serial number), but as we've already long established, the buyer of used Snap-on doesn't have a warranty on their stuff, so, whoopty-freakin-doo.
 
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