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slowpoke

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I am attempting to use a pair of two wheel dolly wheels to make a table mobile. I can not get the tires to seal at the rims. The rims are not rusty or dirty. Does any one have a suggestion as to how to get them to seal? Joe
 
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Take them to the nearest tire outfit and get tubes for them.
Tubeless on little stuff just isn't worth the hassle.
The OEMs use it to save a buck, but the $20.00 you spend will save you a lot of grief.

After years of fighting it I went to tubes on my tractor.
I even have tubes in my wheel barrows.

Best thing I ever did.
 

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It is a pain in the rear but I have done it by tying a loop in a piece of rope. Take the free end of the rope and make a bigger loop out of it, wrap the loop around the tire and pull it down as tight as you can. Put the air to it. It does not work every time but it will work. Probably much easier to put tubes in the rims but I am a cheap *******.
 

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Put a ratchet strap around the OD of the tire and lube the bead moderately with dish soap. Put just enough air in the tire to keep the bead against the rim and remove the strap. Then air up until the bead seats and reduce to running pressure.

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Thanks guys, I have no problem airing them up, they just leak at the seal. I might try the slime, really hate to spend $20. Kind of the whole reason to use them was to save money because I had them. Joe
 

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How bad are they leaking?
Find where the leaks are and hit the tire with a small hammer. This will fix most small bubble leaks on the bead.
 

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I second the dish detergent idea, and if they still leak get some Monkey Grip or Camel tire patching glue at a hardware store and put a thin layer around the edge of the rim on both bead areas and then air up to about 20 psi above the recomended running pressure and leave them for a week or so, then let air back down to working pressure and see if they are sealed!
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Put a bead of grease on the bead on both sides. Then wipe off the excess when aired up. Will never leak again.
 
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Put a ratchet strap around the OD of the tire and lube the bead moderately with dish soap. Put just enough air in the tire to keep the bead against the rim and remove the strap. Then air up until the bead seats and reduce to running pressure.

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You won't do that with a small tractor tire on the front of a JD. :bounce: Been there done that. It took an air cannon to seat them.

To keep them from leaking if you can get them to seat, right before you seat them, run a bead of clear silicone caulk around the bead. This will seal them up. Anyone that has owned John Deere tractors will know what I am talking about. The frickin' front tires will only go down the night before you need it. :spit: My nephew who has a repair business told me that is what he does to all small wheeled tires to keep air in them and has never had a problem (yet)

I put "Slime" in mine.

Tire places absolutely HATE changing tires that has had Slime put in them. Hell of a mess.
 

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Throw away the pneumatic tires and get you some solid tires. Yes, I know, pneumatic tire roll so nice over rough spots, but, unless you are using and moving the dolly or table long distances over rough surfaces every day they are nothing but a PITA. I've had them, I got tired of using them once every month or two and having to air up the tires every time I used them. You never think to check the tires until you have a heavy load on the thing and it starts swaying around and threatening to fall over.
 

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Tubes. They are cheap and they hold air. I did the same thing with my rototiller. The tires got old and harder and wouldn't hold air with any kind of sealer. I washed out all the old sealer and put in tubes. End of problem.
 

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I have successfully used a cam lock strap as well as the ratchet strap idea. It’s easier to release if you get a little too much air in before you remove it. This assumes you have a nice clean smooth rim area for the tire to seal against.

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slowpoke

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Thanks for all the ideas, more than I expected. I had thought about the silicone idea but thought the air would just blow it out of the way. I will try grease, then if needed, the silicone and report back. I just had the pneumatic tires laying around. I agree solids are much better, that's how I have the pneumatic. Joe
 

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From what I remember, Slime says not for rim leaks... it is supposed to be for puncture leaks.

I used a can of Fix-A-Flat a few times. Have to redo it every few years, but seems to hold up well. Plastic wheels with tubeless tires on my 15 year old two-wheel dolly always seemed to have a flat just when I needed it. One of these days I'll just pull the tire that always leaks and check out the wheel bead. Probably a mold line or something that could be sanded smooth to eliminate the problem...but that would mean I have to get off the couch!
 
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The grease seems to have worked. No evidence of rim leakage to thius point. Thanks again. Joe
 

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I just wanted to thank whoever posted to grease both sides of
a d flat dolly tire to get air in it.
I didn't have grease handy but I had a tub of Snowproof (used to condition leather against waterstains) and thought what the heck, let me try this.
Worked like a charm.
 

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Take them to the nearest tire outfit and get tubes for them.
Tubeless on little stuff just isn't worth the hassle.
The OEMs use it to save a buck, but the $20.00 you spend will save you a lot of grief.

After years of fighting it I went to tubes on my tractor.
I even have tubes in my wheel barrows.

Best thing I ever did.

+1,000,000. Same here. Hand truck, wheelbarrow, tractor - all tubed. NO LEAKS.
 

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You won't do that with a small tractor tire on the front of a JD. :bounce: Been there done that. It took an air cannon to seat them.

To keep them from leaking if you can get them to seat, right before you seat them, run a bead of clear silicone caulk around the bead. This will seal them up. Anyone that has owned John Deere tractors will know what I am talking about. The frickin' front tires will only go down the night before you need it. :spit: My nephew who has a repair business told me that is what he does to all small wheeled tires to keep air in them and has never had a problem (yet)



Tire places absolutely HATE changing tires that has had Slime put in them. Hell of a mess.
Seat those problem tires with a bucket.....
 

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I just wanted to thank whoever posted to grease both sides of
a d flat dolly tire to get air in it.
I didn't have grease handy but I had a tub of Snowproof (used to condition leather against waterstains) and thought what the heck, let me try this.
Worked like a charm.

Glad it worked out for you.

Did it that way for years on steel car wheels when I lived in Mass. Wheels would always be rusty and leak at the beads. Regular ol bearing grease right out of the can would fix them pesky bead leaks with a quickness. To never leak again. Learned the trick from an old timer mechanic many years ago.
 
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