Bob Heine
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Mat, a picture of that drill bit should be included in the definition of "Consumables."
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Terrick down Under
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Yes put the pic in, but..."don't try this at home, we are trained professionals"
dlcwent
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I've never seen that happen before. I wouldn't have even believed it to be possible.
Lyndon
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Mat
What Dan said. I've never seen a drill bit "pretzel" like that before.
All the cheap ones I've ever bought just snap apart. . . . . 
Maybe they could use that drill bit for an exhibit at MONA?
Lyndon
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What Dan said. I've never seen a drill bit "pretzel" like that before.
All the cheap ones I've ever bought just snap apart. . . . .
Maybe they could use that drill bit for an exhibit at MONA?
Lyndon
Why am I up?
oldironfarmer
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It just looked like a "twisted" drill to me.
oldironfarmer
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Yeah, twisted twist drill with a twist. A good blacksmith could straighten that back out!
metalhead140
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That's nuts!
sean Buick 76
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Nice projects and I love the 4 year old getting in on the projects... My 2 year old is the same way.
dlcwent
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That's not what I picture when I think of a "twist drill" Andy.
It's more like a "compound twist drill" now, multiple twists in different dimensions.
I'm with you on that one Mat. I don't want to go for that next time I need a "twist drill". And I'll agree with Lyndon, I only seen then snap, never twist into a pretzel. That must have been made out of very soft material.
drivesitfar
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TB: i'd comment on the drill bit some more, but i'm more interested in how you thought to build the frame set it up and then put the posts in. do tell? i know you are re building an existing structure, but that just seems very clever the way you figured out how to do that. i bet it's level too. yes?
i know with kids and work it's hard to get some of these projects finished so do the best you can your kids and family will love the results.
i know with kids and work it's hard to get some of these projects finished so do the best you can your kids and family will love the results.
Thanks metalhead, Sean and Dan!
Drives, not sure exactly how I planned that out, but it seemed like an OK way to do it.
I was initially planning to concrete the posts in first, but when I thought about how I would attach the bearers and joists, I didn't think I would be able to position them accurately enough to satisfy my OCD.
I also wanted to make sure I had enough clearance to the fence to get the bolts done up, and this way allowed me to do a full dry run before I put any concrete in.
I don't think this is the normal way to do it, but it seemed right to me, and I'm happy with how it worked. It's perfectly square and level, and I didn't have any "oh ****, this bearer doesn't sit flat on this crooked post that's already in concrete" moments.
Drives, not sure exactly how I planned that out, but it seemed like an OK way to do it.
I was initially planning to concrete the posts in first, but when I thought about how I would attach the bearers and joists, I didn't think I would be able to position them accurately enough to satisfy my OCD.
I also wanted to make sure I had enough clearance to the fence to get the bolts done up, and this way allowed me to do a full dry run before I put any concrete in.
I don't think this is the normal way to do it, but it seemed right to me, and I'm happy with how it worked. It's perfectly square and level, and I didn't have any "oh ****, this bearer doesn't sit flat on this crooked post that's already in concrete" moments.
Got a little bit done over the weekend...
Posts 3 and 4 going in...
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Little helper making sure the post is solid...
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Cleanup...
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And the first side of the frame to support the deck on the angled bit to the fence...
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Had to do this bit before I put the main joists in so I had access to put the screws in.
Posts 3 and 4 going in...
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Little helper making sure the post is solid...
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Cleanup...
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And the first side of the frame to support the deck on the angled bit to the fence...
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Had to do this bit before I put the main joists in so I had access to put the screws in.
oldironfarmer
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Love your hired hand!
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Mat, well done.
Its great to see its a family effort..
Regards
Its great to see its a family effort..
Regards
ajohno
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Well done Mat.
Weekend progress...
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Need to put a bit more framing to fill in the angled gap to the fence on the right, then it's time for the deck to go down.
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Need to put a bit more framing to fill in the angled gap to the fence on the right, then it's time for the deck to go down.
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Mat, thanks for the update...
Looking fantastic..
Looking fantastic..
Lyndon
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Mate
Looking good.
But what is the little one to the right of shot playing with....?
Lyndon
Yep - I'm watching....
Looking good.
But what is the little one to the right of shot playing with....?
Lyndon
Yep - I'm watching....
Grumblebum
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Lyndon, that would be a Makita impact driver. Fav tool of my young bloke too.
Looking good Mat.
GB
Looking good Mat.
GB
dlcwent
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Mat, question for ya. Did mom know he was walking the fence?
Glad to see a young one with a drill in his hand. The yard is coming along nicely.
Glad to see a young one with a drill in his hand. The yard is coming along nicely.
drivesitfar
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TB: the project is coming along nicely and of course I (we) all love your assistant that seems to be enjoying the project maybe more than you. not sure if you want to spend the money or time doing this, but to make all your work last a bit longer you might want to buy some good caulk and caulk up the joints and screw heads where water might stand/sit on them.
here's what treated wood looks like 20+ years after a couple leaking screw head's caulk failed.
also my BIL caulks all the time cause he was a glazier before he became a contractor and he uses a caulking gun where the head rotates 360 degrees so he can keep the bead moving along nicely.
with or without caulk your paint and good construction should have that playhouse standing for many years, but it might last for your grandkids if you keep up with the caulk and keep it protecting from rot.
here's what treated wood looks like 20+ years after a couple leaking screw head's caulk failed.
also my BIL caulks all the time cause he was a glazier before he became a contractor and he uses a caulking gun where the head rotates 360 degrees so he can keep the bead moving along nicely.
with or without caulk your paint and good construction should have that playhouse standing for many years, but it might last for your grandkids if you keep up with the caulk and keep it protecting from rot.
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Thanks Drives!
I saw your pictures of the skylight repair on another thread (Woodworking 101 maybe? That's a great thread by the way, well done on that idea... I've been following along there although I haven't posted... it's moving fast and hard to keep up!). Great job on the repair, it looks great now.
I appreciate the tip. I probably won't worry too much about caulking the joints in the deck frame, as it will all by under the roofline, and shouldn't cop too much water.
I have painted most of the the cut ends before assembly, and then repainted the whole frame after assembly, so hopefully that will be enough to stop any water that does get in.
The timber I'm using is all from the second hand cubby, so it's already 10+years old, and there's no sign of any rot anywhere.
I will have a gabled polycarbonate roof, over the whole thing, so rainwater shouldn't be able to settle anywhere, and I'll use those screws with the cupped rubber washer to keep the water out...
I saw your pictures of the skylight repair on another thread (Woodworking 101 maybe? That's a great thread by the way, well done on that idea... I've been following along there although I haven't posted... it's moving fast and hard to keep up!). Great job on the repair, it looks great now.
I appreciate the tip. I probably won't worry too much about caulking the joints in the deck frame, as it will all by under the roofline, and shouldn't cop too much water.
I have painted most of the the cut ends before assembly, and then repainted the whole frame after assembly, so hopefully that will be enough to stop any water that does get in.
The timber I'm using is all from the second hand cubby, so it's already 10+years old, and there's no sign of any rot anywhere.
I will have a gabled polycarbonate roof, over the whole thing, so rainwater shouldn't be able to settle anywhere, and I'll use those screws with the cupped rubber washer to keep the water out...
drivesitfar
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TB: the 4 important areas i was thinking of caulking were where you attached the frame to the 4x4's you just cemented in. maybe if you have a tube of caulk just run a bead at each corner on top of the new framing on the two sides of the 4x4's where the 2x6's (or 8's) are attached so water doesn't get trapped next to the 4x4 and the supports. trying to stop water damage, but maybe something worse that may or may not be an issue in your area is bugs. they like cold, damp places to start their families and some eat wood.
keep up the good work.
as far as the Woodworking 101 thread i have a good feeling that will be maybe one of my favorites threads on GJ and i already have a list of tools to search for as if i needed more.
cheers
keep up the good work.
as far as the Woodworking 101 thread i have a good feeling that will be maybe one of my favorites threads on GJ and i already have a list of tools to search for as if i needed more.
cheers
drivesitfar
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TB: sounds good.
Not much progress on the cubby house, but I did spend the weekend digging two big holes.
500 x 500, 700 deep...
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500 x 500, 1100 deep...
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Almost half a cubic metre of hole in total (it seemed like several cubic metres of dirt came out!)
I'll have pics of what's going in the holes in the next few days.
500 x 500, 700 deep...
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500 x 500, 1100 deep...
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Almost half a cubic metre of hole in total (it seemed like several cubic metres of dirt came out!)
I'll have pics of what's going in the holes in the next few days.
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Not much progress on the cubby house, but I did spend the weekend digging two big holes.
500 x 500, 700 deep...
http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/picture.php?Almost half a cubic metre of hole in total (it seemed like several cubic metres of dirt came out!)
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Mat, what ever is going in those holes is not going any were.
A shade sail perhaps is my guess??
Regards
Terrick down Under
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wigwam for a gooses bridal?
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Pergola..
drivesitfar
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TB: so of the $3300 spent so far is that just for fees to get the permit to build your Pergola? OMG no wonder there has been so much said about the COUNCIL and your concerns about re building the play house.
i bet you've got to know more of your neighbors in the process and maybe not some in a good way or have they all been ok?
is your plan still the same as the one you posted 4 months ago on post #1? here's the picture i saved cause i need to build another Pergola or extend my roof over the front door of my home. i also need to build in some shade over the deck in back cause with our weather giving us 3 months of 90 degree weather instead of maybe a week each summer it would sure be nice. (I tried to save it to repost it, but it didn't work so if you might want to post your updated plan or the same one you posted on your first post it's up to you.)
good luck and looks like you maybe got a little exercise digging those 2 holes.
GOOD LUCK
NOTE: while going back and re reading some of your posts i noticed you mentioning the Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. i've checked out the Audio version twice now and even though it was written in 1974 there is a waiting list to check it out. talk about a tough book to stay with and especially when driving in traffic. i wonder if they are planning on making a movie about it or maybe they did? Denwood first mentioned it to me and his QUALITY is second to none so looking forward to another Quality project by you cause yours are pretty nicely done too.
i bet you've got to know more of your neighbors in the process and maybe not some in a good way or have they all been ok?
is your plan still the same as the one you posted 4 months ago on post #1? here's the picture i saved cause i need to build another Pergola or extend my roof over the front door of my home. i also need to build in some shade over the deck in back cause with our weather giving us 3 months of 90 degree weather instead of maybe a week each summer it would sure be nice. (I tried to save it to repost it, but it didn't work so if you might want to post your updated plan or the same one you posted on your first post it's up to you.)
good luck and looks like you maybe got a little exercise digging those 2 holes.
GOOD LUCK
NOTE: while going back and re reading some of your posts i noticed you mentioning the Zen and the art of motorcycle maintenance. i've checked out the Audio version twice now and even though it was written in 1974 there is a waiting list to check it out. talk about a tough book to stay with and especially when driving in traffic. i wonder if they are planning on making a movie about it or maybe they did? Denwood first mentioned it to me and his QUALITY is second to none so looking forward to another Quality project by you cause yours are pretty nicely done too.
Spot on Terrick!
Umm, oops, Steve, you're spot on mate.
The pergola is finally happening.
Drives, the design hasn't changed from post #1...
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And yep, unfortunately the $3,300 was all just for paperwork.
The neighbours have all been really good thankfully, no worries there.
The welder turned up with his truck this morning. He's prefabricated several sections, and he's going to weld them together today before we hoist it into position.
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Umm, oops, Steve, you're spot on mate.
The pergola is finally happening.
Drives, the design hasn't changed from post #1...
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And yep, unfortunately the $3,300 was all just for paperwork.
The neighbours have all been really good thankfully, no worries there.
The welder turned up with his truck this morning. He's prefabricated several sections, and he's going to weld them together today before we hoist it into position.
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Drives, Re. digging the holes... it's funny, I was having lower back issues last week, and I was a bit worried about how it was going to hold up. I was a bit sore on Sunday night, but it's felt great since then!
It seems that sitting at a desk all week is much worse for my back than digging holes.
Thanks for bringing up Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance again, it's a great (but not easy) read. It would be interesting to hear it as an audio book. I've found my enjoyment of audio books really depends on the voice of the reader. A good reader can make an ordinary book great, but if you don't like the reader's voice, it can ruin even the best book.
Looks like the version available on Audible is a dramatisation, so it's condensed. It only goes for an hour and forty minutes...
http://www.audible.com/pd/Classics/Zen-and-the-Art-of-Motorcycle-Maintenance-Dramatised-Audiobook/B008FCVG7G
If you're looking for some good audiobooks, I can recommend anything read by Humphrey Bower, especially "The Australian Trilogy" by Bryce Courtenay...
http://www.audible.com/pd/Fiction/The-Potato-Factory-Audiobook/B002V8MC2I
It seems that sitting at a desk all week is much worse for my back than digging holes.
Thanks for bringing up Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance again, it's a great (but not easy) read. It would be interesting to hear it as an audio book. I've found my enjoyment of audio books really depends on the voice of the reader. A good reader can make an ordinary book great, but if you don't like the reader's voice, it can ruin even the best book.
Looks like the version available on Audible is a dramatisation, so it's condensed. It only goes for an hour and forty minutes...
http://www.audible.com/pd/Classics/Zen-and-the-Art-of-Motorcycle-Maintenance-Dramatised-Audiobook/B008FCVG7G
If you're looking for some good audiobooks, I can recommend anything read by Humphrey Bower, especially "The Australian Trilogy" by Bryce Courtenay...
http://www.audible.com/pd/Fiction/The-Potato-Factory-Audiobook/B002V8MC2I